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You'll notice there is plenty of air time on this track but not doubles and triples on every straight. I have nothing against jumps (less is more though) but detest tracks who put more emphasis on air time than they do riding skills.
BTW did you ever race Carlsbad?
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I cant believe he posts so many vids of himself crashing
besides, what was dude thinking. that is a small ass landing for 140ft. and ya could never do that in a race or with anyone around you. thats asking to land on someone for sure!!!!
I understand from experience racing is dangerous and eventually you get hurt...it's the price of admission. I don't understand however in a period of the worst economy since God's dog was a puppy most track operators don't get it that people have to be healthy in order to come back and pay the gate fee and race entry fee.
I appreciate that some think "if someone isn't smart enough not to do a jump combination then they deserve to get hurt" but I just don't share that view. This is only my opinion and others are entitled to disagree....no problem.
Bottom line I'd like to see our sport keep growing but will not be surprised if some day we're left scratching our heads wondering why we don't have big turnouts anymore.
That's my story and i"m sticking to it..........................................
I've seen some pretty good track designs that didn't have any doubles or triples. Instead of having two singles strung together, they filled the gap and built up the back side a few feet, and graded the ramp out in two layers.. It's like a tabletop, but better. I don't know the proper name for this jump, but it's safe even if you come up 10ft short from the end. You're landing on more or less flat or a ramped down surface. Having two levels to jump to means you can work your way out to longer distances safely.
The doubles are horrible.. come up 10ft short and it's not a pretty landing, even on a 30ft gap.
Not sure where anyone is wanting track owners to build a bunch of single to ground jumps.. those suck!
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Funny that some mistake big table tops as safer. Seen if first hand over and over at some of the tracks in AZ. I've seen more people carted out from a "safe" 80ft table top than the 80ft triple that is further along the track. Why? The table tops don't make people think about their skill as much. I'll watch guys jump the table all day and not come close to attempting the triple. You will also see guys that have no business jumping a jump that big, huck it and wad because it is "safe".
Sorry it's complete BS. Distance is distance. The Rock and other's would be better suited helping tracks identify ways for riders to build up their skill. Help shape higher risk obstacles so there is more run out or a spill out lane. Don't stack an obstacle that can throw you off your line and into an oncoming lane, etc. If you question something at a track, go talk to the track operator. Bring some suggestions, they may not of thought of it the way you see it.
While many will disagree with my opposition to "Safe" jumps, I do agree that there are ways to make tracks safe for more skill levels. One of the biggest issues I've experienced is a track trying to fit all skill levels in one track. Promote the skill level you expect. Run multiple tracks if you can and tell riders to check their ego. Pull someone off the track that doesn't belong and show them to the track that fits their skill.
At least on a table top, if I don't jump it, the guys behind me can see me (since I'm not hidden between the transition and the landing), and are far less likely to land on me. Just because there is a jump there, doesn't mean I have to do it...
I can see both sides of this argument. Tracks these days have to have jumps, as that is now part of the sport and what will attract younger riders. However I don't think it is necessary for said jumps to be unsafe. Keeping jump faces in good shape (i.e. no kickers, lips etc) and rounding the top of landings can make them a lot more forgiving. Most race tracks in NZ don't have big doubles or triples in them, which is a good thing in my opinion.
The argument that "ïf you are unsure about don't do it" is flawed, as motocross is a competitive sport and everyone wants to be better than they are. Therefore, if there is a jump that only the top few riders are doing, lesser riders are going to feel pressured to do it in order to be competitive. Some may also feel they have to do it to avoid the risk of being landed on by those who are.
I am reasonably good at jumping nowadays, and will usually jump anything I come across on the track. When I first started riding however, this was not the case. My dad raced in the 80's and got back into it when I started, but he gave up after a few years largely because he didn't like the big jumps that had become a part of the sport. I grew up with the jumps, so am not really phased by them.
and don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with tapered landings.
first guy is soooo lucky he didn't hit a planted 4x4- that's what it looked like he shot between at least. that would have been a mangler.
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