RC... why would you quit? comment

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1/16/2012 12:12pm
Steroids arent bad for you
Steroids aren't. Steroid abuse is.
looked like RC was using Winstol/Winni-V. at least that is what it looked like, but I cant say with 100% certainty
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1/16/2012 12:12pm
That was horrible. Stil sucks to think about.

But RC's current job isn't exactly that safe:

https://youtu.be/T4koh3lFsb8
I said a little safer. I didn't say safe.
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1/16/2012 12:13pm
Steroids arent bad for you
Steroids aren't. Steroid abuse is.
looked like RC was using Winstol/Winni-V. at least that is what it looked like, but I cant say with 100% certainty
mxb2 wrote:
Source?
Speculation on stuff that can't be proven one way or another is pretty much a fruitless pursuit. But that doesn't prevent anonymous fruits from trying.
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Steroids aren't. Steroid abuse is.
looked like RC was using Winstol/Winni-V. at least that is what it looked like, but I cant say with 100% certainty
mxb2 wrote:
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GuyB wrote:
Speculation on stuff that can't be proven one way or another is pretty much a fruitless pursuit. But that doesn't prevent anonymous fruits from trying.
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WhKnuckle wrote:
There was nothing left for RC to win. He never lost an outdoor title for 10 consecutive years. He won 5 SX titles. When Reed hits...
There was nothing left for RC to win. He never lost an outdoor title for 10 consecutive years. He won 5 SX titles. When Reed hits those numbers, maybe it'll be time for him to hang it up too.
EvanR127 wrote:
With what we know now, RC most likely would have had 7sx titles if he stayed another two years and could have beat MC win record...
With what we know now, RC most likely would have had 7sx titles if he stayed another two years and could have beat MC win record. He would have been known as a "GOD" and MC would be known as second best lol.

Don't kill me now but I remember reading that his last MXDN he started getting sick and feeling the effects of the steroid use........
Well....I can see some people are extremely uninformed and will say just about anything. I'll go with what GuyB said above. And as hard as RC had to train for his entire life.....and win that much....there is only so long a persons body can take that kind of abuse.

If anything.....his last 1/2 season he rode out doors wasn't an explanation point on his career.....I don't know what is. He was going into retirement and went out undefeated. Just another reason why he is called the GOAT!
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1/16/2012 12:19pm
Steroids aren't. Steroid abuse is.
looked like RC was using Winstol/Winni-V. at least that is what it looked like, but I cant say with 100% certainty
Hgh would be the best I would imagine. Heal injuries faster. Add in small amount of test to recover from your workouts. I dont really see these guys doing much if anything. They are all so small and yes certain PED's work diff than others. But you would have some muscle on you.
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I've also heard his body couldn't take anymore from all the years with steroids. My source is not from this thread but from another toprider that's well respected both in Europe and even more in the US. I think it's true for lot's of reasons.

I'm also aware that it's not cheating under the roules where he was racing so it shouldn't surprise anyone really.
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Gawd damn.....this topic has been beat to death! Do we really need to go down this road again? It's all just assumptions and hear say........why can't you guys just let it go? I guess since RC was at the top for so many years.....it's just easier to point the finger I guess?
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1/16/2012 12:29pm
Fucking idiots steroids dont beat your body up, motocross does!!!
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1/16/2012 12:29pm Edited Date/Time 1/16/2012 12:29pm
I am not calling him a cheater or any1 else but in todays world every physical professional sports use some kind of performance enhancer that may be barely legal or not....u would be ignorant to think otherwise.
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1/16/2012 12:33pm
jeffro503 wrote:
Well....I can see some people are extremely uninformed and will say just about anything. I'll go with what GuyB said above. And as hard as RC...
Well....I can see some people are extremely uninformed and will say just about anything. I'll go with what GuyB said above. And as hard as RC had to train for his entire life.....and win that much....there is only so long a persons body can take that kind of abuse.

If anything.....his last 1/2 season he rode out doors wasn't an explanation point on his career.....I don't know what is. He was going into retirement and went out undefeated. Just another reason why he is called the GOAT!
What's an explanation point?
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GuyB wrote:
What's an explanation point?
You know an explanation point. It explained Ricky's point that he was the best
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And, I cannot prove this, but me thinks having two little babies changed the GOATS perspective on the

future...motocross is a filthy, stupid, wonderful, dangerous sport that, eventually, most of us become

less a participant and more the spectator, at...... Ricky chose a time and stuck with it. As much as i miss him

being around, he did the right thing - at the right time. His time.
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1/16/2012 12:53pm Edited Date/Time 1/16/2012 4:24pm
RC had been racing pro since he was 16 and wanted to pursue a new passion. That passion is racing automobiles. This claim sounds plausible.

CR took another direction. Everyone thought he would pursue auto racing. My prediction is his effort will be one of two Factory Honda efforts. In 2 to 4 years Honda will farm its efforts to both McGrath/Brooks and 22 Motorports. Honda's contract will be with the team.... not individual riders. The riders will have contracts with the team. 22 Motorsports will sign Trey Canard and Wilson. McGrath/Brooks will have Tomac and Barcia. More exposure for Honda at a top level.

Had RC kept racing he would be fighting for championships this year and beyond. He decided to pursue new goals.
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1/16/2012 12:55pm
You can't beat walking away on top...I think the fact that he had kids and he knew that one mistake and you can be disabled led him to realize it was best to walk away when he did.
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jeffro503 wrote:
Well....I can see some people are extremely uninformed and will say just about anything. I'll go with what GuyB said above. And as hard as RC...
Well....I can see some people are extremely uninformed and will say just about anything. I'll go with what GuyB said above. And as hard as RC had to train for his entire life.....and win that much....there is only so long a persons body can take that kind of abuse.

If anything.....his last 1/2 season he rode out doors wasn't an explanation point on his career.....I don't know what is. He was going into retirement and went out undefeated. Just another reason why he is called the GOAT!
GuyB wrote:
What's an explanation point?
You know what I meant damn it. Whistling

"exclamation point".........I haven't had enough coffee this morning and my mind is on other things. At least I didn't misplace a comma or some gawd awful thing like that. Wink
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1/16/2012 1:04pm
I remember reading awhile back that it was CFS or chronis fatigue sydrome that ultimately drove him to retire along with the other obvious facts. Pushing your body to the edge week in and week out takes a toll on even the best of athletes
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Pretty funny what RC said, but I lost focus on what he said because I'm so curious about RC clothes lately? What's the story? I'm not into fashion and sure it's a matter of taste, but his outfit is just crazy, no? I thought prime time on TV would make one put in extra effort (Emig seems to be working), but instead someone close to RC goes down to Wallmart and buys and 2XL gray shirt, that also needs serious ironing, plus a jacket/coat 4XL that seems to be a hybrid between what a college professor and a bum would use?

Sure, it doesn't matter, but WTF? Is this a practical joke that I didn't get the memo about?
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1/16/2012 1:23pm
GuyB wrote:
RC was THE guy for pretty much a decade. Could he have kept going and won more titles? Sure. I always got the feeling that he...
RC was THE guy for pretty much a decade. Could he have kept going and won more titles? Sure. I always got the feeling that he was looking forward to new challenges, and maybe do something that was a little safer. Not that it was based on a particular rider.
Ditto.
1/16/2012 1:31pm
Too bad RC didn't stay at least till the end of the '07 season. +1 outdoor title for sure.

Stewart finally had the edge on him in Supercross, though. And it was about friggin' time.
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he had set a goal, just like the goals he would set for a new race season.it just involved things like family and different kind of challenge.i'm sure there was some thought regarding stewart moving into the premier class, but that was not the tip of the iceberg ,if you will.
1/16/2012 3:58pm
Rupert X wrote:
And, I cannot prove this, but me thinks having two little babies changed the GOATS perspective on the future...motocross is a filthy, stupid, wonderful, dangerous sport...
And, I cannot prove this, but me thinks having two little babies changed the GOATS perspective on the

future...motocross is a filthy, stupid, wonderful, dangerous sport that, eventually, most of us become

less a participant and more the spectator, at...... Ricky chose a time and stuck with it. As much as i miss him

being around, he did the right thing - at the right time. His time.
Well said! Having a new family and the responsibilities that go with it will change most people's perspective. The risk/reward was not worth it anymore so he walked. Very few people in any sport can say they finished on top and RC is one of them. Besides he had nothing left to prove, his record speaks for itself. Can you think of athletes in any other sport that dominated the way he did? Jordan, Gretzky, Federer, Jim Brown, Tiger Woods (before everyone found out how many "holes" he was sinking his 'nine iron' into Shocked )?
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WhKnuckle wrote:
There was nothing left for RC to win. He never lost an outdoor title for 10 consecutive years. He won 5 SX titles. When Reed hits...
There was nothing left for RC to win. He never lost an outdoor title for 10 consecutive years. He won 5 SX titles. When Reed hits those numbers, maybe it'll be time for him to hang it up too.
EvanR127 wrote:
With what we know now, RC most likely would have had 7sx titles if he stayed another two years and could have beat MC win record...
With what we know now, RC most likely would have had 7sx titles if he stayed another two years and could have beat MC win record. He would have been known as a "GOD" and MC would be known as second best lol.

Don't kill me now but I remember reading that his last MXDN he started getting sick and feeling the effects of the steroid use........
Where did you hear about RC taking steroids?
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Steroids. Sheeesh.
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He was sick of training and putting his body throughthe pain of it all. He said at 25 he was sick of waking up and feeling...
He was sick of training and putting his body throughthe pain of it all. He said at 25 he was sick of waking up and feeling like he was 55.
That's what I remember him saying.
He just didn't want to keep training and riding so hard to stay at that level.

Windham makes me wonder sometimes.
If one ate right, did the clean living thing, stayed healthy and never lost interest.
How old could you go? How many wins or titles could one win?
A guy like Dungey, with a coach like Roger, that did it into his 30's,
think of the numbers a guy like that could run up.
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Fucking idiots steroids dont beat your body up, motocross does!!!
Sure they do, and for some people there is a very real withdrawl that REALLY sucks. Your tired, you get weaker, you don't want to train. It's not a fun thing.

I'm not going to speculate if he was using or not ( I really don't care either).
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spd721 wrote:
Where did you hear about RC taking steroids?
There has been hundreds of threads on various forums. Search them up if u want.

Just using common sense of todays sports and with how strict the AMA is on the rules lol
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James was a better racer riding against RC because he accepted getting beat by Ricky. Ricky would have had a much easier time beating the new James that the old James. If Ricky were still racing it would be awsome to see him and Villopoto racing. As good as Villopoto is, RC was more of a machine than Ryan is.

Ricky wanted to hold his foot on your neck every second and not give you one once of belief that you could beat him. Villopoto seems more content being smart sometimes and letting things come to him.

I think RC retired because of James Stewart, but in hindsight it looks like he would have still had his number for quite a while.
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He did NOT retire because of Stewart. Anyone who says that is a complete idiot.

Ricky had won EVERYTHING there was to win. He had beaten every new challenger placed in front of him. He raced for 10 seasons, SX and MX. Out of a possible 19 championships he could have won, he won 16. Losing the 1997 125 East Coast Supercross, the 1999 250 Supercross, and the 2000 250 Supercross.

He worked his ass off for his entire career to get to the level he got to and to hold it until his retirement. This caused him to develop chronic fatigue syndrome. He never lost a championship to Reed, he never lost a championship to Stewart, he dethroned McGrath, he beat Ferry, Windham, and Tortelli in their prime consistently (no small task), and he completed three perfect overall MX seasons.

It's not how long your career is, it's what you do in that career. Carmichael never took an outdoor series off. Reed took two off, McGrath took the last few off, Stewart has taken three off, and several other guys like Larocco and Windham have taken MX off as their career is coming to an end. This will obviously allow them to extend their careers age wise.

Stewart is now in the equivalent of the 2007 season of Carmichael's. Obviously he's contested much less races than Carmichael and subsequently saved his body which will allow him to race longer as far as age goes.

The short version of this entire post would be... He had nothing more to prove. He won everything there was to win against every amazing competitor placed in front of him. New challenges awaited him that were much easier on the body and he had a family now, so he stepped away from the sport while he was on top. 10 years isn't a short career by no means, especially when you look at how he rode and trained in those 10 years.
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TDeath21 wrote:
He did NOT retire because of Stewart. Anyone who says that is a complete idiot. Ricky had won EVERYTHING there was to win. He had beaten...
He did NOT retire because of Stewart. Anyone who says that is a complete idiot.

Ricky had won EVERYTHING there was to win. He had beaten every new challenger placed in front of him. He raced for 10 seasons, SX and MX. Out of a possible 19 championships he could have won, he won 16. Losing the 1997 125 East Coast Supercross, the 1999 250 Supercross, and the 2000 250 Supercross.

He worked his ass off for his entire career to get to the level he got to and to hold it until his retirement. This caused him to develop chronic fatigue syndrome. He never lost a championship to Reed, he never lost a championship to Stewart, he dethroned McGrath, he beat Ferry, Windham, and Tortelli in their prime consistently (no small task), and he completed three perfect overall MX seasons.

It's not how long your career is, it's what you do in that career. Carmichael never took an outdoor series off. Reed took two off, McGrath took the last few off, Stewart has taken three off, and several other guys like Larocco and Windham have taken MX off as their career is coming to an end. This will obviously allow them to extend their careers age wise.

Stewart is now in the equivalent of the 2007 season of Carmichael's. Obviously he's contested much less races than Carmichael and subsequently saved his body which will allow him to race longer as far as age goes.

The short version of this entire post would be... He had nothing more to prove. He won everything there was to win against every amazing competitor placed in front of him. New challenges awaited him that were much easier on the body and he had a family now, so he stepped away from the sport while he was on top. 10 years isn't a short career by no means, especially when you look at how he rode and trained in those 10 years.

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