Which rider most legitimized the KTM

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I think the KTM can't win criticism has been way overblown for a long time but......

I think Mike Alessi did the most to change the perception that the KTM can't win. (4 stroke era only)
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PaleBlue 12/5/2011 9:14am
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knowitalloveragainnovice wrote:
I think the KTM can't win criticism has been way overblown for a long time but...... I think Mike Alessi did the most to change the...
I think the KTM can't win criticism has been way overblown for a long time but......

I think Mike Alessi did the most to change the perception that the KTM can't win. (4 stroke era only)
As a European and used to KTMs dominating, I think the whole premis of this thread is laughable Sad Sad Sad
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mccread 12/5/2011 9:31am
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I think he should have said in America at the end of his title.....lol Americans only look at America hence the perception that KTM can't win when it is winning outside their country lol

BT in 2004 when he one KTM's first four stroke world title.

Cairoli winning KTMs first big bike World Title 2010 on a 350.
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Langston, Hughes, Hansen (05 east sx). When Everts showed up at Hangtown in '10, it was obvious that ktm was all in.

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Faceaz 12/5/2011 10:25am
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Langston& Hughes.

Eventhough it will draw criticism, also McGrath. It was over before it started, but he drew allot of recognition to them as viable.
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Guennady Moisseev, Vladimir Kavinov, André Malherbe, Kurt Nicoll, Kees van der Ven, Heinz Kinigadner, Trampas Parker, Shayne King, Peter Johansson, Joël Smets, Ben Townley, Maximilian Nagl, Steve Ramon, Antonio Cairoli,Yves Demaria, Tyla Rattray, Tommy Searle, Marvin Musquin, Ken Roczen
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Tony Amaradio and Jeff Dement in 1995..followed up by Kevin Crine and Ty Wallace the next year.

Fisher, Cliff Palmer and Keith Johnson
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Roscoe33 12/5/2011 10:47am
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Tapped Out wrote:
Guennady Moisseev, Vladimir Kavinov, André Malherbe, Kurt Nicoll, Kees van der Ven, Heinz Kinigadner, Trampas Parker, Shayne King, Peter Johansson, Joël Smets, Ben Townley, Maximilian Nagl...
Guennady Moisseev, Vladimir Kavinov, André Malherbe, Kurt Nicoll, Kees van der Ven, Heinz Kinigadner, Trampas Parker, Shayne King, Peter Johansson, Joël Smets, Ben Townley, Maximilian Nagl, Steve Ramon, Antonio Cairoli,Yves Demaria, Tyla Rattray, Tommy Searle, Marvin Musquin, Ken Roczen
world title wins don't count to Americans.

Nathan Ramsey first SX win on the first race on the new 250F in Toronto.
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Cairoli, Musquin or Roczen
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Roscoe33 wrote:
world title wins don't count to Americans.

Nathan Ramsey first SX win on the first race on the new 250F in Toronto.
I think you forgot a most in that first line.
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Ryan Dungey, by signing with them and getting it on the box at MEC.
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M-M 12/5/2011 11:10am
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mccread wrote:
I think he should have said in America at the end of his title.....lol Americans only look at America hence the perception that KTM can't win...
I think he should have said in America at the end of his title.....lol Americans only look at America hence the perception that KTM can't win when it is winning outside their country lol

BT in 2004 when he one KTM's first four stroke world title.

Cairoli winning KTMs first big bike World Title 2010 on a 350.
Ktms first four stroke world title? I



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englishman 12/5/2011 11:12am
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3 time world champ Guennady Moisseev back in the '70's - KTM's have been winning forever.
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Tapped Out wrote:
Guennady Moisseev, Vladimir Kavinov, André Malherbe, Kurt Nicoll, Kees van der Ven, Heinz Kinigadner, Trampas Parker, Shayne King, Peter Johansson, Joël Smets, Ben Townley, Maximilian Nagl...
Guennady Moisseev, Vladimir Kavinov, André Malherbe, Kurt Nicoll, Kees van der Ven, Heinz Kinigadner, Trampas Parker, Shayne King, Peter Johansson, Joël Smets, Ben Townley, Maximilian Nagl, Steve Ramon, Antonio Cairoli,Yves Demaria, Tyla Rattray, Tommy Searle, Marvin Musquin, Ken Roczen
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Was this thread originally meant to talk about legitimizing KTM in the US, and specifically in SX? I don't think anyone doubts their outdoor or GP capabilities, which is why Alessi doing well on one outdoors isn't that big a deal. Didn't Brayton win a national moto on one also?
Right now a KTM has never won or even hit the podium in the 'big show' under the lights here in the U.S. Only one other true SX contender has taken a chance in signing with them (MC), and he got hurt and retired before he even raced the bike, which probably hurt confidence in KTM more than if they hadn't signed him in the first place.
Just my thoughts..
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ninety3 12/5/2011 12:46pm
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I'd have to go with Ping.
Pretty sure he spanked Stewart at a 125 SX once.

But yeah, KTM have been winning races for a long time.
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Cairoli!

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Ask next fall, Roczen or Dunge
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To this point, Cairoli. Dungey will likely legitimize them further for American fans. Roczen and Moosekun might bring it on the 350. The 250 stuff doesn't carry the same weight as the 450's do when it comes to legitimization in my opinion.
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Lucifa. 12/5/2011 1:49pm
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mark_swart wrote:
Was this thread originally meant to talk about legitimizing KTM in the US, and specifically in SX? I don't think anyone doubts their outdoor or GP...
Was this thread originally meant to talk about legitimizing KTM in the US, and specifically in SX? I don't think anyone doubts their outdoor or GP capabilities, which is why Alessi doing well on one outdoors isn't that big a deal. Didn't Brayton win a national moto on one also?
Right now a KTM has never won or even hit the podium in the 'big show' under the lights here in the U.S. Only one other true SX contender has taken a chance in signing with them (MC), and he got hurt and retired before he even raced the bike, which probably hurt confidence in KTM more than if they hadn't signed him in the first place.
Just my thoughts..
I can't remember but did Dungy podium this year at the MEC in Vegas?
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M-M 12/5/2011 1:53pm
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mark_swart wrote:
Was this thread originally meant to talk about legitimizing KTM in the US, and specifically in SX? I don't think anyone doubts their outdoor or GP...
Was this thread originally meant to talk about legitimizing KTM in the US, and specifically in SX? I don't think anyone doubts their outdoor or GP capabilities, which is why Alessi doing well on one outdoors isn't that big a deal. Didn't Brayton win a national moto on one also?
Right now a KTM has never won or even hit the podium in the 'big show' under the lights here in the U.S. Only one other true SX contender has taken a chance in signing with them (MC), and he got hurt and retired before he even raced the bike, which probably hurt confidence in KTM more than if they hadn't signed him in the first place.
Just my thoughts..
Lucifa. wrote:
I can't remember but did Dungy podium this year at the MEC in Vegas?
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mccread 12/5/2011 2:12pm
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mccread wrote:
I think he should have said in America at the end of his title.....lol Americans only look at America hence the perception that KTM can't win...
I think he should have said in America at the end of his title.....lol Americans only look at America hence the perception that KTM can't win when it is winning outside their country lol

BT in 2004 when he one KTM's first four stroke world title.

Cairoli winning KTMs first big bike World Title 2010 on a 350.
M-M wrote:
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Ktms first four stroke world title? I



I am an idiot Pinch

I was just thinking from when the 250fs came out for some reason as the four stroke era lol

Smets was an animal on the 520 KTMs.
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Kartwheel84c 12/5/2011 2:15pm
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The correct answers are in order:

John Penton
Guennady Moisseev
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ehr400 12/5/2011 2:19pm
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Every one forgets Kelly Smith won KTM its first AMA pro race on a KTM 125 in '99 I think.
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In America, Rod Bush. Not necessarily for his riding.

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