J-Law Sighted in NY testing 250 2strk

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As taken from a KTM talk member about a hare scramble J-Law tried. So, guess who showed up for a local NJ Harescramble today?? That's right...
As taken from a KTM talk member about a hare scramble J-Law tried.


So, guess who showed up for a local NJ Harescramble today?? That's right J-Law himself! This was the NEOC Series and the race was in Millville, NJ. Lined up on the AA line was #54 on well used RMZ...

He looked completely out of his element and people it seemed, were going out of there way to NOT say hi, he kinda just sat there on the line with a blank stare on his face.

The flag dropped and the line of regional AA guys (Shane Hufford, Ryan Rodgers, Rich Lafferty etc) left him in a cloud of dust as he could not get the bike started. Finally, he left the line after about 15 seconds and off he went. 9 miles and about 15 mins later, little J-Law was out in front by a considerable margin.

Lap two he came by flowing effortlessly and looking like a real pro. He waved off his pit crew and went around for another lap. On lap three just about to the pits, he ran out of gas. He pushed it into the pits and gassed up. As his pit crewed fueled him, his shoulders slumped down, he was obviously spent. With one arm around his pit man, Jason struggled to lift his leg, his body was pratically limp as was barely able to lift his leg to the kicker. One, two, three....about six or eight half-hearted attempts to kick the bike, he unbuckled his helmet and walked off the course.

His pit man pushed the bike over to the side and after three or four healthy kicks, the bike fired but J-Law had already dissapeared out of sight.

So, after one hour of a local south jersey harescaramble our former National Champ quit and went home.
peelout wrote:
that was a cool story of a dude going out of his element to have fun riding a dirt bike. why do people have to try...
that was a cool story of a dude going out of his element to have fun riding a dirt bike.

why do people have to try and bash that? i'll never understand.

he could have won by 50 seconds and people on here would be calling him a faggot for racing a little local race. fuckin pricks
So the guy started after everyone, caught and passed them, then pushed his bike when it ran out of gas, and people are trying to give him shit?
sbarrington314 9/28/2011 2:14pm
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So the guy started after everyone, caught and passed them, then pushed his bike when it ran out of gas, and people are trying to give...
So the guy started after everyone, caught and passed them, then pushed his bike when it ran out of gas, and people are trying to give him shit?
according to jlaw, (via facebook, so its gotta be true) it was also pouring out coolant.
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zookrider62! 9/28/2011 2:21pm
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So the guy started after everyone, caught and passed them, then pushed his bike when it ran out of gas, and people are trying to give...
So the guy started after everyone, caught and passed them, then pushed his bike when it ran out of gas, and people are trying to give him shit?
sbarrington314 wrote:
according to jlaw, (via facebook, so its gotta be true) it was also pouring out coolant.
I dont really care if it was for that reason or if he was just plain tired, the guy tried a fun race with no real meaning and wasnt able to finish. How is that bad of him
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Hopefully he'll:

1) run a big bore two stroke
2) run leaded fuel
3) be competive
4) get protested and torn down so the racing community can see what it takes to counteract the disparity in the current rules.

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if he holeshots even a heat race on a two stroke i wont be able to handle it, my colon will develop cancer immediately from teh sheer excitement.
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OldYZRider1 wrote:
Hopefully he'll: 1) run a big bore two stroke 2) run leaded fuel 3) be competive 4) get protested and torn down so the racing community...
Hopefully he'll:

1) run a big bore two stroke
2) run leaded fuel
3) be competive
4) get protested and torn down so the racing community can see what it takes to counteract the disparity in the current rules.
Here, fixed it for you.....

Hopefully he'll:

1) run a big bore two stroke
2) run leaded fuel
3) be competive
4) get protested and torn down so the racing community can see what it takes to counteract the disparity in the current rules.
5) get professional help
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I hope to squash some rumors here.

in opening ceremonies, they are going to roll him out on this.



he is going to ride this.


after the race, they are going to do this.


followed by this.


which will be followed by this.


inevitably that will lead to this.


and "validated" by this, the supreme validator.
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brocster 9/28/2011 6:22pm
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i'm a fan no matter..... the dude was cool as shit to my friends and I a few years back
GILLETT wrote:
Careful saying that. You and I don't have 7000 plus posts or responses so we are going to get hacked for opening our mouths.
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you better check your tone! and the joined dates as I got you by 2 months so back at ya bruh!

LET J LAW RIDE for crying out loud....
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You call it Envy , I call it empathy
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just bustin your chops....now get back behind the counter and sell something.....
Haha! Vacation! Then starting a new job.. something about Shoei's, Utopia's...
miedosoracing1 9/29/2011 11:43am
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OldYZRider1 wrote:
Hopefully he'll: 1) run a big bore two stroke 2) run leaded fuel 3) be competive 4) get protested and torn down so the racing community...
Hopefully he'll:

1) run a big bore two stroke
2) run leaded fuel
3) be competive
4) get protested and torn down so the racing community can see what it takes to counteract the disparity in the current rules.
First, still can't believe people are posting on 500guys carrot. But ok. Even if he or anyone runs a big bore 2 stroke or 4 stroke, isn't the monster race a run what you brung?
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AMA sanction = AMA rules
miedosoracing1 9/29/2011 12:03pm
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AMA sanction = AMA rules
Hmm, then someone has since changed from the original PR, Gee surprise. It originally said no matter cc no matter stroke. I believe they used the words, anything goes. I'm starting to believe the "Man" is tryin to keep the tiddler down. 2 Stroke Racists.

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"And now consider this: top riders are committing to the brand new Monster Energy Cup in Las Vegas in October, but without team commitments. And the Cup will be a truly open race in that it will allow for any type of motorcycle, no matter the year brand, the homologation rules, the works parts, traction control, cc's, strokes.... Anything these riders want to race there, they can. (Imagine someone showing up on Jeremy McGrath's '96 CR250—imagine Jeremy showing up on it!) The Monster Cup is going to be a very interesting race..."
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GuyB 9/29/2011 12:31pm
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Propaganda! wrote:
Yeah the only thing worse might be a modern 4 stroke with a team of 5 or 6 mechanics to work on it... then you might...
Yeah the only thing worse might be a modern 4 stroke with a team of 5 or 6 mechanics to work on it... then you might not even get to participate in the race.



Even if the Fooper does start in time for the race, that's no guarantee that the racer is going to beat a guy on a bike half the size that's superior in every way other than the slant of favoritism and the faked up opinions of the "Whichever way the money blows" gaggle of worms who serve as the press core in our sport, who are really more like competing ad agencies which is why their noses turn brown when their lips pucker.

Just look at what Cedric Soubyras did to the VAST majority of Foopers last year at the Euro supercross events, he beat all the Foopers that woudn't start and he beat all the ones that did start, except for 2 of them. He beat so many 350 and450 Foopers on his 250 SX 2 strole that you practically needed a Fooper Scooper to get the track ready for the next race.

Oh and even though their engines are obviously slower, the Foopers are allowed to be much bigger so really it's a laugh when they get spanked like that... the only thing funnier is watching a notable percentage of them blow up on live TV during a race.
Okay, Propaganda posts were entertaining...for a while. Then they just got to the point where they were a lot like fingernails on a chalkboard with the same material over and over.

Much like Burger King did with the creepy king character, I just retired this one. Now there's room for one more person who actually likes riding and talking about their bike of choice, and not just bagging on something else that they don't like.

Oh, and Jay, if Jason doesn't show in Vegas, should that count as a full strike against you?
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GuyB 9/29/2011 12:36pm
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miedosoracing1 wrote:
First, still can't believe people are posting on 500guys carrot. But ok. Even if he or anyone runs a big bore 2 stroke or 4 stroke...
First, still can't believe people are posting on 500guys carrot. But ok. Even if he or anyone runs a big bore 2 stroke or 4 stroke, isn't the monster race a run what you brung?
It is a run what you brung. Which means that the majority of teams will bring what they think could actually win, not what will make a few drunk fans in the stands raise a beer and scream, "Hell yeah!"
miedosoracing1 9/29/2011 12:43pm
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miedosoracing1 wrote:
First, still can't believe people are posting on 500guys carrot. But ok. Even if he or anyone runs a big bore 2 stroke or 4 stroke...
First, still can't believe people are posting on 500guys carrot. But ok. Even if he or anyone runs a big bore 2 stroke or 4 stroke, isn't the monster race a run what you brung?
GuyB wrote:
It is a run what you brung. Which means that the majority of teams will bring what they think could actually win, not what will make...
It is a run what you brung. Which means that the majority of teams will bring what they think could actually win, not what will make a few drunk fans in the stands raise a beer and scream, "Hell yeah!"
Well, um, I'm pretty sure a 300 2 stroke would do just fine. Guess maybe the info on rules should be a little more clear or without "mis info." No one else seemed to know this. I bet you guys love my long term memory. You put top 5 fast guy on a 300 2 stroke and they will still be top 5. Shit, Roc was doing really good on that little 125, just think if it would have been a 150 or even 250. So keep on with your agenda, but you know deep down a 300cc 2 stroke would do just fine, if Andrew Short did ok on that 350 4 choke. Last year in SX's Cedric won on the little 250 tiddler.
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500guy 9/29/2011 12:49pm
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Guy-b

if J-Law doesn't show would you say that was business as usual ? See 2011 AMA Nationals for earliest example , 20011 Supercross for another example.

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hahahahhahahaha...whatever happens to J.LAw...it's his decision if he could make it or not
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There's no agenda, just common sense. Would I like to see one (or several) there to see how they'd do? Sure! But I did talk with a few teams when the race was first announced, and didn't get the impression that anyone would bust out some two-strokes or go super-exotic just because they could.

Maybe we'll see some surprises in Vegas.
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GuyB wrote:
It is a run what you brung. Which means that the majority of teams will bring what they think could actually win, not what will make...
It is a run what you brung. Which means that the majority of teams will bring what they think could actually win, not what will make a few drunk fans in the stands raise a beer and scream, "Hell yeah!"
That is not accurate, if Jlaw or anyone was ripping around on a 250/any other 2stroke basically the enire place would yell HELL YEAH.
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GuyB wrote:
There's no agenda, just common sense. Would I like to see one (or several) there to see how they'd do? Sure! But I did talk with...
There's no agenda, just common sense. Would I like to see one (or several) there to see how they'd do? Sure! But I did talk with a few teams when the race was first announced, and didn't get the impression that anyone would bust out some two-strokes or go super-exotic just because they could.

Maybe we'll see some surprises in Vegas.
No agenda is a problem, without the agenda the 2 stroke Taliban will cease to exist.
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burn1986 9/29/2011 12:55pm
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Fact: a 250 2-stroke would do fine in SX against 450s with a good rider.
Fact: J-Law won't show for the race.
Fact: If he does, which he won't, then he will quite after a few laps.
Fact: 500guy was an abused child.
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GuyB 9/29/2011 12:57pm
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burn1986 wrote:
Fact: a 250 2-stroke would do fine in SX against 450s with a good rider. Fact: J-Law won't show for the race. Fact: If he does...
Fact: a 250 2-stroke would do fine in SX against 450s with a good rider.
Fact: J-Law won't show for the race.
Fact: If he does, which he won't, then he will quite after a few laps.
Fact: 500guy was an abused child.
It's been mentioned before, but...

It's not a Supercross. It's a hybrid.
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burn1986 9/29/2011 1:00pm
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GuyB wrote:
It's been mentioned before, but...

It's not a Supercross. It's a hybrid.
Got it, thanks. J/K 500guy, messin with ya
miedosoracing1 9/29/2011 1:02pm
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GuyB wrote:
There's no agenda, just common sense. Would I like to see one (or several) there to see how they'd do? Sure! But I did talk with...
There's no agenda, just common sense. Would I like to see one (or several) there to see how they'd do? Sure! But I did talk with a few teams when the race was first announced, and didn't get the impression that anyone would bust out some two-strokes or go super-exotic just because they could.

Maybe we'll see some surprises in Vegas.
You guys do realize that the PR says this? "including 250-450cc four strokes or 125cc and 250cc two strokes."

So yes, it does mislead. Had it said open CC 2 or 4, there may be more interested. But who wants to chance that rule being correct, instead of what you say?

But now GuyB verifies, it is truely open, so someone could run a overbore, and leaded fuel.
someone needs to show up with a KTM 300 2012 and kick some butt. It would be better than a 350Fart.
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As taken from a KTM talk member about a hare scramble J-Law tried. So, guess who showed up for a local NJ Harescramble today?? That's right...
As taken from a KTM talk member about a hare scramble J-Law tried.


So, guess who showed up for a local NJ Harescramble today?? That's right J-Law himself! This was the NEOC Series and the race was in Millville, NJ. Lined up on the AA line was #54 on well used RMZ...

He looked completely out of his element and people it seemed, were going out of there way to NOT say hi, he kinda just sat there on the line with a blank stare on his face.

The flag dropped and the line of regional AA guys (Shane Hufford, Ryan Rodgers, Rich Lafferty etc) left him in a cloud of dust as he could not get the bike started. Finally, he left the line after about 15 seconds and off he went. 9 miles and about 15 mins later, little J-Law was out in front by a considerable margin.

Lap two he came by flowing effortlessly and looking like a real pro. He waved off his pit crew and went around for another lap. On lap three just about to the pits, he ran out of gas. He pushed it into the pits and gassed up. As his pit crewed fueled him, his shoulders slumped down, he was obviously spent. With one arm around his pit man, Jason struggled to lift his leg, his body was pratically limp as was barely able to lift his leg to the kicker. One, two, three....about six or eight half-hearted attempts to kick the bike, he unbuckled his helmet and walked off the course.

His pit man pushed the bike over to the side and after three or four healthy kicks, the bike fired but J-Law had already dissapeared out of sight.

So, after one hour of a local south jersey harescaramble our former National Champ quit and went home.
peelout wrote:
that was a cool story of a dude going out of his element to have fun riding a dirt bike. why do people have to try...
that was a cool story of a dude going out of his element to have fun riding a dirt bike.

why do people have to try and bash that? i'll never understand.

he could have won by 50 seconds and people on here would be calling him a faggot for racing a little local race. fuckin pricks
zookrider62! wrote:
So the guy started after everyone, caught and passed them, then pushed his bike when it ran out of gas, and people are trying to give...
So the guy started after everyone, caught and passed them, then pushed his bike when it ran out of gas, and people are trying to give him shit?
Not my opinion. I saw it over there, KTM talk and thought it might be of some interest. I like the personality he brings to the sport ,, bad or good. Here is the link to the thread

http://ktmtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=432162&st=15
miedosoracing1 9/29/2011 2:16pm
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Not my opinion. I saw it over there, KTM talk and thought it might be of some interest. I like the personality he brings to the...
Not my opinion. I saw it over there, KTM talk and thought it might be of some interest. I like the personality he brings to the sport ,, bad or good. Here is the link to the thread

http://ktmtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=432162&st=15
LOL, you have to be a member to go see it. I am, but just sayin.
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". . . someone needs to show up with a KTM 300 2012 and kick some butt. It would be better than a 350Fart."

Hell Yeah!!!!
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Premixed wrote:
.. you assholes have VERY short f*cking memories. in 2005, in a gate full of 4 strokes, Chad Reed, Ricky Carmichael, and James Bubbles Stewart beat...
..

you assholes have VERY short f*cking memories. in 2005, in a gate full of 4 strokes, Chad Reed, Ricky Carmichael, and James Bubbles Stewart beat EVERYONES asses on 250 two strokes. Holeshots, race wins, fastest laps, championship. All 2 strokes.

period. end of story. That is not ancient history, those were the same 55-60hp 450s that are on the track now, and three men on three 250 two strokes shit on them.
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Yeah i do remember...but do you remember what the tracks looked like back then? They were still designed and made for two strokes. The tracks today...
Yeah i do remember...but do you remember what the tracks looked like back then? They were still designed and made for two strokes. The tracks today have so many technical areas where you need that crazy torque that a 4 stroke has. Its a proven fact...tracks are designed for 4 strokes now. Steeper jumps, less run ups, WAY more technical rythem sections where you need that 60hp.

I dont know how they designed this track, but if its anything like SX was the last couple of years a 2 stroke would def be at a disadvantage. Just sayin
You also forgetting what ken roczen did recently on a little 125? with all the steep jumps he said he was coming up short on etc...he pulled out a top 10!

Why not just wait and see what happens, he may do well or he may not even qualify, simple....oh wait that wouldn't be following the crowd Wink

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