Stewart JGR Suzuki Done Deal

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9/24/2011 7:43pm
RaceFace wrote:
MC still almost won on the Suzuki, with barely any preparation before A1. He suffered a flat tire in one race to boot! He blames lack...
MC still almost won on the Suzuki, with barely any preparation before A1. He suffered a flat tire in one race to boot! He blames lack of preparation opposed to the bike (in public anyway).

Reed was most certainly a contender on the Kawasaki, winning the Hangtown overall and getting a solid 2nd overall at round 2, being the points leader heading into round 3. There he went south fast.

Certainly many bikes of yesteryear had vast levels of effectiveness, and Hannah has thrown forks off of cliffs to display his displeasure. I thought the comments here regarded to guys of today such as James and Reed.
You can't compare one of the worst 2 strokes ever made 97 RM250 with modern day 4 strokes.
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9/25/2011 5:14am Edited Date/Time 9/25/2011 5:17am
fader418 wrote:
But I remember when james first moved up to 250's he said "his whole life is all about JANUARY 8TH!
You see.....
President George W. Bush signed into law the No Child Left Behind Act on Jan8th 2002.
That is also R Kelly's birthday along with Andy Woods birthday (the guy Candle Box wrote the song Far behind about ) and also Elvis's birthday along with David Bowie.Also in 1867 on Jan 8th African American men were granted the right to vote in Washington, D.C.On Jan 8th 1912 the African National Congress was founded also.

Those are 7 great things that happened on Jan 8th,so maybe that is why he was talking about Jan 8th and why he chose the #7. Smile
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9/25/2011 7:03am Edited Date/Time 9/25/2011 7:03am
I am afraid Stewart will be untouchable onboard of that Suzuki. Everybody that gets on that bike elevates their game substantially. Say what you want but I have a feeling he will be back to his old ways of winning...by a large margin.
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I am afraid Stewart will be untouchable onboard of that Suzuki. Everybody that gets on that bike elevates their game substantially. Say what you want but...
I am afraid Stewart will be untouchable onboard of that Suzuki. Everybody that gets on that bike elevates their game substantially. Say what you want but I have a feeling he will be back to his old ways of winning...by a large margin.
x 2

Especially coming from one of those Yamahas. The handling and control of the RMZ is probably on a whole nother level.

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9/25/2011 8:39am
Anyone else notice this is this guys second post? This has no truth to it. PICTURES or it never happened.
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james stewart is black
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fader418 wrote:
You can't compare one of the worst 2 strokes ever made 97 RM250 with modern day 4 strokes.
In 96 the RM250 was MX Actions bike of the year, the 97 is the same bike. Know your facts.
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MXGeoff doesn't think Stewart rates in the top ten or honorable mentions of 450 riders in the world.

Ok.

http://www.mxlarge.com/news/5553-top-ten-450cc-riders-in-the-world
Is James a 450 MX rider? Hasn't ridden in 3 years other than a moto and a half. If he rode a 450 race with the riders on that list he would be top 10, but Roczen, Herlings, Barcia, WIlson, Rattray, and a bunch of other non-450 riders might be able to as well. Do they all belong too? Some would argue RC should be on the list even though he is retired. I wouldn't but some would. It's just a list, and frankly I'm surprised they were honest enough to put Cairoli down at 3rd!
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9/25/2011 9:48am
MXGeoff doesn't think Stewart rates in the top ten or honorable mentions of 450 riders in the world.

Ok.

http://www.mxlarge.com/news/5553-top-ten-450cc-riders-in-the-world
RaceFace wrote:
Is James a 450 MX rider? Hasn't ridden in 3 years other than a moto and a half. If he rode a 450 race with the...
Is James a 450 MX rider? Hasn't ridden in 3 years other than a moto and a half. If he rode a 450 race with the riders on that list he would be top 10, but Roczen, Herlings, Barcia, WIlson, Rattray, and a bunch of other non-450 riders might be able to as well. Do they all belong too? Some would argue RC should be on the list even though he is retired. I wouldn't but some would. It's just a list, and frankly I'm surprised they were honest enough to put Cairoli down at 3rd!
"While I am happy to say he isn’t in the same league as a Ricky Carmichael or even a James Stewart for all out speed, he is a huge talent who shows his character on the track." on Villo

Agrees about Stewart and Carmichael, but the list is about current 450 riders....
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9/25/2011 10:23am
Stewart's an active rider, even if he hasn't ridden outdoors. Can anyone really say that all things being equal in terms of preparation that if Stewart lined up he wouldn't be in contention for top 15?

I don't see how you don't at least acknowledge the guy and then punt on it because he hasn't ridden outdoors for a couple years.

He also doesn't mention Canard at all, but includes Barcia.

I'll throw this out in the new thread as well.
9/25/2011 11:05am
Stewart should be top five of that list for sure.
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Pics or it didn't happen.
Cokeham23 wrote:
My friends cousins brothers friends friend was there to, and took this [IMG]http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn231/Cokeham/Mobile%20Uploads/SNC00054-1.jpg[/IMG]
My friends cousins brothers friends friend was there to, and took this
He posted this on his facetube yesterday ! Still on blue huh ?Huh

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9/25/2011 11:18am
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He posted this on his facetube yesterday ! Still on blue huh ?:huh: [IMG]http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae96/MartinHonda_79/bubbayama.jpg[/IMG]
He posted this on his facetube yesterday ! Still on blue huh ?Huh

That looks as photoshopped as the other
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He posted this on his facetube yesterday ! Still on blue huh ?:huh: [IMG]http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae96/MartinHonda_79/bubbayama.jpg[/IMG]
He posted this on his facetube yesterday ! Still on blue huh ?Huh

flarider wrote:
That looks as photoshopped as the other
I tried to be ironic Whistling Blush
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8 pages 18,000 views and no comfirmation haha
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8 pages 18,000 views and no comfirmation haha
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9/25/2011 12:54pm
Pics or it didn't happen.
Cokeham23 wrote:
My friends cousins brothers friends friend was there to, and took this [IMG]http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn231/Cokeham/Mobile%20Uploads/SNC00054-1.jpg[/IMG]
My friends cousins brothers friends friend was there to, and took this
Xsenter wrote:
He posted this on his facetube yesterday ! Still on blue huh ?:huh: [IMG]http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae96/MartinHonda_79/bubbayama.jpg[/IMG]
He posted this on his facetube yesterday ! Still on blue huh ?Huh

im just wondering why he has a red plate...
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9/25/2011 1:11pm Edited Date/Time 9/25/2011 1:13pm
8 pages 18,000 views and no comfirmation haha
pulpmx Steve Matthes: "Anyone claiming the Stewart/JGR/Suzuki deal is done is off-base, it's chugging along nicely but not done- we should know this coming Friday"


I also believe JT$ posted that James has been riding a Suzuki for a while now,that it is no secret.

So I guess the only thing to confirm is.....it's possible it could be a done deal by this Friday.
9/25/2011 2:31pm
Exactly. Didn't he say the same thing a year ago and then bail out after the SX season?
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I have said it many times before and I will say it again, JS is freaky fast but only because he takes more risk than others.

Him moving to Suzuki (if indeed that occurs) will not stop his high risk riding, its in his DNA, and it is what his fans love and his rivals hate....and given his competition in 2012 I doubt he will adopt a smoother, less riskier but still wining style, the others are too close to his level to allow that.

His rivals hate it and his fans love it if the risk pays off or his fans hate is and his rivals love it when he crashes, no one wins when he takes out other riders in the process (if that happens, and it deosnt happen everytime).

You can see why the cameras follow him, they want to either see him win or watch him crash....
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I have said it many times before and I will say it again, JS is freaky fast but only because he takes more risk than others...
I have said it many times before and I will say it again, JS is freaky fast but only because he takes more risk than others.

Him moving to Suzuki (if indeed that occurs) will not stop his high risk riding, its in his DNA, and it is what his fans love and his rivals hate....and given his competition in 2012 I doubt he will adopt a smoother, less riskier but still wining style, the others are too close to his level to allow that.

His rivals hate it and his fans love it if the risk pays off or his fans hate is and his rivals love it when he crashes, no one wins when he takes out other riders in the process (if that happens, and it deosnt happen everytime).

You can see why the cameras follow him, they want to either see him win or watch him crash....
There it is, JS is the fastest, most exciting racer in American Motocross... JS wins or crashes, that is why the cameras follow
him...
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kiwifan wrote:
I have said it many times before and I will say it again, JS is freaky fast but only because he takes more risk than others...
I have said it many times before and I will say it again, JS is freaky fast but only because he takes more risk than others.

Him moving to Suzuki (if indeed that occurs) will not stop his high risk riding, its in his DNA, and it is what his fans love and his rivals hate....and given his competition in 2012 I doubt he will adopt a smoother, less riskier but still wining style, the others are too close to his level to allow that.

His rivals hate it and his fans love it if the risk pays off or his fans hate is and his rivals love it when he crashes, no one wins when he takes out other riders in the process (if that happens, and it deosnt happen everytime).

You can see why the cameras follow him, they want to either see him win or watch him crash....
I don't know. What you've posted here seems to be the conventional wisdom on Vital, but have you actually seen James race live?

He's typically much faster than everyone else (except when he was racing Ricky of course), and it isn't because of "risk taking".

The guy went 24/0 in the Nats, and decimated the entire field week after week. If you see him race live, just once, you'll know what I'm talking about. He's not the "out of control nut-job" that alot of the couch racers here try to make him out to be. He's actually just that fast.

Now, as to why the last couple of seasons haven't gone so good for him? We all have our theories I suppose, but all the crashing of the last supercross series was not and is not typical of James (and I don't give a shit how much old footage you guys pull out. Spare us, I think we've seen it all). I don't ever recall him crashing so often as he did last season. The haters will do their compilations of spectacular crashes, but keep in mind it spans multiple seasons when they do.

Personally, I think skipping the Nats was the worst "race" decision he's made. The other boys were in race shape, James wasn't. But I'm not James, and the decision might have been one he considers the best personally. Who knows?

Either way, he's damn fast!
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9/25/2011 3:57pm
He didn't fire Larry because he was happy with the teams direction.
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I have said it many times before and I will say it again, JS is freaky fast but only because he takes more risk than others...
I have said it many times before and I will say it again, JS is freaky fast but only because he takes more risk than others.

Him moving to Suzuki (if indeed that occurs) will not stop his high risk riding, its in his DNA, and it is what his fans love and his rivals hate....and given his competition in 2012 I doubt he will adopt a smoother, less riskier but still wining style, the others are too close to his level to allow that.

His rivals hate it and his fans love it if the risk pays off or his fans hate is and his rivals love it when he crashes, no one wins when he takes out other riders in the process (if that happens, and it deosnt happen everytime).

You can see why the cameras follow him, they want to either see him win or watch him crash....
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I don't know. What you've posted here seems to be the conventional wisdom on Vital, but have you actually seen James race live? He's typically much...
I don't know. What you've posted here seems to be the conventional wisdom on Vital, but have you actually seen James race live?

He's typically much faster than everyone else (except when he was racing Ricky of course), and it isn't because of "risk taking".

The guy went 24/0 in the Nats, and decimated the entire field week after week. If you see him race live, just once, you'll know what I'm talking about. He's not the "out of control nut-job" that alot of the couch racers here try to make him out to be. He's actually just that fast.

Now, as to why the last couple of seasons haven't gone so good for him? We all have our theories I suppose, but all the crashing of the last supercross series was not and is not typical of James (and I don't give a shit how much old footage you guys pull out. Spare us, I think we've seen it all). I don't ever recall him crashing so often as he did last season. The haters will do their compilations of spectacular crashes, but keep in mind it spans multiple seasons when they do.

Personally, I think skipping the Nats was the worst "race" decision he's made. The other boys were in race shape, James wasn't. But I'm not James, and the decision might have been one he considers the best personally. Who knows?

Either way, he's damn fast!
True, havent seen him in person...I live in New Zealand...but its just my observation from seeing coverage on TV...I dont disagree he is fast...I certainly made that clear....my theory stands, he crashed a lot because the others were a lot faster last year, more competition equals harder to win therefore more risk....

I must admit I did not say last year in my comments as that was what I was referring to, not the previous seasons where he had less competition and a twilight career of RC.
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9/25/2011 4:13pm
How many times did he wash the front end out trying to turn that YFZ?In the whoops, he is 2mph faster.I dont think the other guys stepped up,I think JS just never got use to that YFZ.Look how shitty CR rode the KX450F.
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9/25/2011 4:14pm
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True, havent seen him in person...I live in New Zealand...but its just my observation from seeing coverage on TV...I dont disagree he is fast...I certainly made...
True, havent seen him in person...I live in New Zealand...but its just my observation from seeing coverage on TV...I dont disagree he is fast...I certainly made that clear....my theory stands, he crashed a lot because the others were a lot faster last year, more competition equals harder to win therefore more risk....

I must admit I did not say last year in my comments as that was what I was referring to, not the previous seasons where he had less competition and a twilight career of RC.
I can totally understand that rationale. All I'm saying is it seems that people have very short memories when it comes to racing. I don't think the competition was just "that much faster" last year, so James had to take excessive risks.

The dude raced Ricky, tooth and nail. Won some, lost some, but no one else was even close to them. And no, that wasn't the twilight of Ricky's career, more the pinnacle. I watched the two go at it live, and it was absolutely ridiculous how fast they were going. There was no stiffer competition than Ricky, and James raced him over and over without crashing his brains out trying to catch him.

But with that, I agree James seemed unprepared for just how good the current batch of kids were. Not because he couldn't handle the competition, but because he hadn't raced all summer. I still contend that if he'd raced them in the previous National series, there would've been an entirely different outcome last supercross season. I think the surprise was only because James was out of "race shape", not because he hasn't or couldn't deal with the new breed of competition. He's dealt with racing the best his entire career, and they don't come any faster than Ricky.
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nc_mx_kid wrote:
jan 7th A1 can't come soon enough
FastEddy wrote:
#7 Jan 7th 7 years has passed since James has raced the 450/SX class. The G in Gibbs is the 7th letter in the alphabet. Suzuki's...
#7
Jan 7th
7 years has passed since James has raced the 450/SX class.
The G in Gibbs is the 7th letter in the alphabet.
Suzuki's is 7 letters
It's all adding up now. Smile

I also bet James will need to win 7 races & get 7 other podium finishes to win the 2012 SX title. Wink
He'll finish 7th in the series.
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nc_mx_kid wrote:
jan 7th A1 can't come soon enough
FastEddy wrote:
#7 Jan 7th 7 years has passed since James has raced the 450/SX class. The G in Gibbs is the 7th letter in the alphabet. Suzuki's...
#7
Jan 7th
7 years has passed since James has raced the 450/SX class.
The G in Gibbs is the 7th letter in the alphabet.
Suzuki's is 7 letters
It's all adding up now. Smile

I also bet James will need to win 7 races & get 7 other podium finishes to win the 2012 SX title. Wink
Motodude wrote:
He'll finish 7th in the series.
7 crashes.....4 just takes himself out....3 of them takes someone with him..Whistling

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