you fooking don't think these new guys have it easy?

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i didn't spell it out cuz i thought i didn't have to for real mxers but the simple fact of racing 3 different size scooter at the top of the game kinda intrigued me and impressed me. but then again smart fuckers like you guys know that it's easy to jump off a 125 and onto a 500 and back and forth the sprinkle in a sx scooter/races and be competitive during the season.
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I've always said Hannah was a bad dude. What he did at the MX Des Nations in 87' on that 125 is the stuff of legend...
I've always said Hannah was a bad dude. What he did at the MX Des Nations in 87' on that 125 is the stuff of legend. I only vaguely remember him in person from when I was real young, but lets keep things in perspective........how many motos a day did he race in 77' ? This thread kind of implies he was racing 3 national classes in a day. My understanding is he was racing one.

I think you take the title contenders from any era and they would be title contenders. You trying to tell me that Dungey, Reed Villopoto and Canard would get smoked in 77'..............?
no...they are badass's

a bad mufucker is a bad mufucker no matter when he was born. could they beast hannah back then....maybe but i doubt it
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^^^^^^ This. This sport has evolved into an actual " Sport "........you don't get away with drinking beers and smoking 2 packs of cigs a day...
^^^^^^ This.

This sport has evolved into an actual " Sport "........you don't get away with drinking beers and smoking 2 packs of cigs a day , and still consider yourself a national contender like they did back then. Going 1/2 the speed , over shit that was built like a mini bike track compared to now days.......and yeah....I've been into this sport since the mid 70's.

It's a completely different animal now days. A lot of the guys today , do nothing but train and ride 10 hrs a day. They get more riding in a day , then those guys got in two weeks back in the day.

Of course these guys get paid more. It's a world wide sport now , and they risk their damn lives riding these bikes , at these speeds and on these type of tracks. Why do you think we lose a few due to injuries and death a few times a year now days?
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While these guys train hard, it's hardly 10 hour days. I do personally know a few pros, and they usually ride about 4 hour days, and...
While these guys train hard, it's hardly 10 hour days.

I do personally know a few pros, and they usually ride about 4 hour days, and work out with a trainer 3x a week for 1 1/2 to 2 hours per week. Some of the guys will ride bikes or swim on the days they don't train with a trainer. hardly adds up to 10 hours! lol!

There is a thing called "over training" and 10 hours would do it!

p.s. aren't there, sadly, fellows in wheelchairs from "back in the day" because it was so dangerous then too?
what year were you born jeffro?

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jeffro503 6/5/2011 9:55am
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I was born in 68'....making me 43. My dad raced scrambles ( MX ) for 15 years before I was even born ( still have his 1969 Kawasaki 238 scrambler here at my house! ), so I was raised within the sport. I started riding about the age of 5 , and have been doing it ever since ( on and off ) So I may be young to "some" of you , but old enough to remember a lot of the hay days.

Look......you guys can sit here and try to brag up about how manly everyone was back in the day all you want if it makes you feel better. But MX....just like any other sport in the world , evolves over time. This is why records get broke in every sport from time to time,........and if there is a bunch of pussy's riding around out there today , beating all those records.....then what?

Training and so forth now days has become scientific , Also Aldon Baker , Spencer and so forth...... so both the rider and the training aspect has changed....dramatically! The riders now days also risk their lives a lot more than what they did way back then , and you HAVE TO consider this into the equation as well. Just look at the tracks now days compared to back then......fuckin' crazy.

I agree that some of the riders are over paid fucking cry babies now days for sure! And guys like Hannah , Tripes , Smith , Decoster and so forth were a cut above the rest. But to say they were men among the boys that race today is fucking stupid! Did you guys have riders dying or getting crippled all the time like we do today? NO....you didn't. Just being able to ride THESE tracks , and THESE speeds now days.......makes you a fucking man in my book! Even if you are some young kid.....you have a big set of brass ones. Are they pampered.....hell yes they are , but they also risk their fucking necks every time they get on one of these new bikes.

Keep beating that big ol' hairy chest of yours. I aint that young , and have been around for quite a while , and have raced , ridden , helped train and am still friends with dozens and dozens of guys who raced pro or are still pro now. Things change in every sport....sometimes for the better , and sometimes for the worst........but you can't sit there and try to compare the "manliness" of today's riders to the ones 30 fucking years ago. It makes no fucking sense.

I'm outta here........I've got some serious roosting to do today. You guys should do the same , instead of sitting behind a fucking keyboard.
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Law 131 6/5/2011 10:19am
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Thanks for that link, Bobby.

Jody's psycho analysis of Hannah's motivation is spot on.

Any old pros that raced this guy back in day know that (except to a few favorites) he was a prick.

It was Hannah against the world. That view, coupled with and extreme dedication to the task, made this guy stand out head and shoulders above the rest of us.

We learned that he was human when he screwed up and broke his leg.

As far as who worked harder, the old guys or the young guys, I see it like this. You young guys have taken the sport we started to the place we knew it could go. You've responded with a dedication, training, study of the intricacies of the sport, hard work and development of the bikes to a place of excellence. Well done.

As far as the comparison of effort, I see it as the same. We suffered for miles in training, so did you. Up early, we did an hour of calisthenics to torture our bodies, so do you. We didn't have Aldon Baker to push us. We had the writings of Rolf Tibblin
to remind us that proper nutrition and training would elevate us in the Pro ranks.

We pushed ourselves to the limit on the track. Our pain was no different that yours is now. It was shear torture on us as we pushed for that last 10 minutes of a 40 plus 2. The speed on the track is relative. The danger we were in was the same as yours is now. I would pull the beating heart of my competitor out of his chest and consume it as he fell, so would you.

I hope that I have taken enough time to give a well considered response to this question.

If not, I'll answer you like I would have 40 years ago.

FUCK YOU!
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I was born in 68'....making me 43. My dad raced scrambles ( MX ) for 15 years before I was even born ( still have his...
I was born in 68'....making me 43. My dad raced scrambles ( MX ) for 15 years before I was even born ( still have his 1969 Kawasaki 238 scrambler here at my house! ), so I was raised within the sport. I started riding about the age of 5 , and have been doing it ever since ( on and off ) So I may be young to "some" of you , but old enough to remember a lot of the hay days.

Look......you guys can sit here and try to brag up about how manly everyone was back in the day all you want if it makes you feel better. But MX....just like any other sport in the world , evolves over time. This is why records get broke in every sport from time to time,........and if there is a bunch of pussy's riding around out there today , beating all those records.....then what?

Training and so forth now days has become scientific , Also Aldon Baker , Spencer and so forth...... so both the rider and the training aspect has changed....dramatically! The riders now days also risk their lives a lot more than what they did way back then , and you HAVE TO consider this into the equation as well. Just look at the tracks now days compared to back then......fuckin' crazy.

I agree that some of the riders are over paid fucking cry babies now days for sure! And guys like Hannah , Tripes , Smith , Decoster and so forth were a cut above the rest. But to say they were men among the boys that race today is fucking stupid! Did you guys have riders dying or getting crippled all the time like we do today? NO....you didn't. Just being able to ride THESE tracks , and THESE speeds now days.......makes you a fucking man in my book! Even if you are some young kid.....you have a big set of brass ones. Are they pampered.....hell yes they are , but they also risk their fucking necks every time they get on one of these new bikes.

Keep beating that big ol' hairy chest of yours. I aint that young , and have been around for quite a while , and have raced , ridden , helped train and am still friends with dozens and dozens of guys who raced pro or are still pro now. Things change in every sport....sometimes for the better , and sometimes for the worst........but you can't sit there and try to compare the "manliness" of today's riders to the ones 30 fucking years ago. It makes no fucking sense.

I'm outta here........I've got some serious roosting to do today. You guys should do the same , instead of sitting behind a fucking keyboard.
so you were a 8 year old know it all watching motocross back then, building knowledge and memories for a years later comparison in terms of the sport? congrats, you've managed to retain your 8 year old exuberance about something you know noting about. awesome...the fountain of youth does exist.

you must have used turtle wax on your stupidity before posting in this thread, i'm almost positive.
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Law 131 wrote:
Thanks for that link, Bobby. Jody's psycho analysis of Hannah's motivation is spot on. Any old pros that raced this guy back in day know that...
Thanks for that link, Bobby.

Jody's psycho analysis of Hannah's motivation is spot on.

Any old pros that raced this guy back in day know that (except to a few favorites) he was a prick.

It was Hannah against the world. That view, coupled with and extreme dedication to the task, made this guy stand out head and shoulders above the rest of us.

We learned that he was human when he screwed up and broke his leg.

As far as who worked harder, the old guys or the young guys, I see it like this. You young guys have taken the sport we started to the place we knew it could go. You've responded with a dedication, training, study of the intricacies of the sport, hard work and development of the bikes to a place of excellence. Well done.

As far as the comparison of effort, I see it as the same. We suffered for miles in training, so did you. Up early, we did an hour of calisthenics to torture our bodies, so do you. We didn't have Aldon Baker to push us. We had the writings of Rolf Tibblin
to remind us that proper nutrition and training would elevate us in the Pro ranks.

We pushed ourselves to the limit on the track. Our pain was no different that yours is now. It was shear torture on us as we pushed for that last 10 minutes of a 40 plus 2. The speed on the track is relative. The danger we were in was the same as yours is now. I would pull the beating heart of my competitor out of his chest and consume it as he fell, so would you.

I hope that I have taken enough time to give a well considered response to this question.

If not, I'll answer you like I would have 40 years ago.

FUCK YOU!
lol...great response law.

jefro the know it all since he was 5 will be along later after burning 6 tanks of gas to tell you are a loser and blinded by age and nostalgia. lmfao
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Law 131 wrote:
Thanks for that link, Bobby. Jody's psycho analysis of Hannah's motivation is spot on. Any old pros that raced this guy back in day know that...
Thanks for that link, Bobby.

Jody's psycho analysis of Hannah's motivation is spot on.

Any old pros that raced this guy back in day know that (except to a few favorites) he was a prick.

It was Hannah against the world. That view, coupled with and extreme dedication to the task, made this guy stand out head and shoulders above the rest of us.

We learned that he was human when he screwed up and broke his leg.

As far as who worked harder, the old guys or the young guys, I see it like this. You young guys have taken the sport we started to the place we knew it could go. You've responded with a dedication, training, study of the intricacies of the sport, hard work and development of the bikes to a place of excellence. Well done.

As far as the comparison of effort, I see it as the same. We suffered for miles in training, so did you. Up early, we did an hour of calisthenics to torture our bodies, so do you. We didn't have Aldon Baker to push us. We had the writings of Rolf Tibblin
to remind us that proper nutrition and training would elevate us in the Pro ranks.

We pushed ourselves to the limit on the track. Our pain was no different that yours is now. It was shear torture on us as we pushed for that last 10 minutes of a 40 plus 2. The speed on the track is relative. The danger we were in was the same as yours is now. I would pull the beating heart of my competitor out of his chest and consume it as he fell, so would you.

I hope that I have taken enough time to give a well considered response to this question.

If not, I'll answer you like I would have 40 years ago.

FUCK YOU!
Excellent post!

Thanks for this! Nice read.
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Thanks for the link.
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RIders in the old days were much more focused.

I have it on good authority that when they were in the peak of their careers:

Hannah never "tweeted.
Barnett never wasted any time playing a playstation.
Ward never once tivoed anything.

Prove me wrong...haha


And as far as Hannah's schedule in '77, you need to add in the Florida WInter-AM races (5 or 6 races back then?), and then the Trans-AMA series in the fall.

In the early days Didn't Hannah usually travel in the box van too?
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" you must have used turtle wax on your stupidity before posting in this thread, i'm almost positive."
hahahahahahah


good post Law 131
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RIders in the old days were much more focused. I have it on good authority that when they were in the peak of their careers: Hannah...
RIders in the old days were much more focused.

I have it on good authority that when they were in the peak of their careers:

Hannah never "tweeted.
Barnett never wasted any time playing a playstation.
Ward never once tivoed anything.

Prove me wrong...haha


And as far as Hannah's schedule in '77, you need to add in the Florida WInter-AM races (5 or 6 races back then?), and then the Trans-AMA series in the fall.

In the early days Didn't Hannah usually travel in the box van too?
I don't think this is true. Riders of today and back then are equally focused. They didn't tweet, play playstation, or tivo because they weren't able to. They did other things for entertainment or fun outside of motocross. Tweeting takes 5 seconds to do so that isn't losing much focus. The modern technology simply replaced the entertainment of whatever they did for fun outside of motocross. As far as the amount of entertainment outside of motocross compared to motocross related training or riding, I bet it's been pretty much the same ever since the Hannah days.
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JustMX wrote:
RIders in the old days were much more focused. I have it on good authority that when they were in the peak of their careers: Hannah...
RIders in the old days were much more focused.

I have it on good authority that when they were in the peak of their careers:

Hannah never "tweeted.
Barnett never wasted any time playing a playstation.
Ward never once tivoed anything.

Prove me wrong...haha


And as far as Hannah's schedule in '77, you need to add in the Florida WInter-AM races (5 or 6 races back then?), and then the Trans-AMA series in the fall.

In the early days Didn't Hannah usually travel in the box van too?
TDeath21 wrote:
I don't think this is true. Riders of today and back then are equally focused. They didn't tweet, play playstation, or tivo because they weren't able...
I don't think this is true. Riders of today and back then are equally focused. They didn't tweet, play playstation, or tivo because they weren't able to. They did other things for entertainment or fun outside of motocross. Tweeting takes 5 seconds to do so that isn't losing much focus. The modern technology simply replaced the entertainment of whatever they did for fun outside of motocross. As far as the amount of entertainment outside of motocross compared to motocross related training or riding, I bet it's been pretty much the same ever since the Hannah days.
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RIders in the old days were much more focused. I have it on good authority that when they were in the peak of their careers: Hannah...
RIders in the old days were much more focused.

I have it on good authority that when they were in the peak of their careers:

Hannah never "tweeted.
Barnett never wasted any time playing a playstation.
Ward never once tivoed anything.

Prove me wrong...haha


And as far as Hannah's schedule in '77, you need to add in the Florida WInter-AM races (5 or 6 races back then?), and then the Trans-AMA series in the fall.

In the early days Didn't Hannah usually travel in the box van too?
TDeath21 wrote:
I don't think this is true. Riders of today and back then are equally focused. They didn't tweet, play playstation, or tivo because they weren't able...
I don't think this is true. Riders of today and back then are equally focused. They didn't tweet, play playstation, or tivo because they weren't able to. They did other things for entertainment or fun outside of motocross. Tweeting takes 5 seconds to do so that isn't losing much focus. The modern technology simply replaced the entertainment of whatever they did for fun outside of motocross. As far as the amount of entertainment outside of motocross compared to motocross related training or riding, I bet it's been pretty much the same ever since the Hannah days.
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TDeath21 wrote:
I don't think this is true. Riders of today and back then are equally focused. They didn't tweet, play playstation, or tivo because they weren't able...
I don't think this is true. Riders of today and back then are equally focused. They didn't tweet, play playstation, or tivo because they weren't able to. They did other things for entertainment or fun outside of motocross. Tweeting takes 5 seconds to do so that isn't losing much focus. The modern technology simply replaced the entertainment of whatever they did for fun outside of motocross. As far as the amount of entertainment outside of motocross compared to motocross related training or riding, I bet it's been pretty much the same ever since the Hannah days.
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"sarcasm".... learn it
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Returned sarcasm. Learn it.
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I know I'm just a funny guy. Lol.
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So Bobby what I hear you saying is every rider today is a wuss, including Mike Alessi?

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bob hannah from MXA's Jody oldschool Weisel.... [b]Instead of the Hurricane just trying to back up his 1976 AMA 125 National Championship, Yamaha had him contesting...
bob hannah from MXA's Jody oldschool Weisel....

Instead of the Hurricane just trying to back up his 1976 AMA 125 National Championship, Yamaha had him contesting all four title chases. Hannah split his time between the 125 Nationals, 250 Nationals, 500 Nationals and 250 Supercross series.


[url]http://www.motocrossactionmag.com/Main/News/JODYS-TRUE-STORY-OF-LET-BRO…]
I'm thinking the reason you think the old skoolers are so bad ass is because they were so poorly trained, undernourished, and often hungover and/or stoned, that every time they pulled off the track, they were on the verge of collapse.

Any of todays kids would "politely" pass Hannah and walk away... top level athletes today my friend!
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i didn't spell it out cuz i thought i didn't have to for real mxers but the simple fact of racing 3 different size scooter at...
i didn't spell it out cuz i thought i didn't have to for real mxers but the simple fact of racing 3 different size scooter at the top of the game kinda intrigued me and impressed me. but then again smart fuckers like you guys know that it's easy to jump off a 125 and onto a 500 and back and forth the sprinkle in a sx scooter/races and be competitive during the season.
Interesting, if you look at the series schedules they really didn't overlap as much as I would have thought. There was one 125 race during the 500 series. A couple 125 races during the SX series. Definitely wouldn't be easy, but if everyone else had to do it then it would negate the issue. If everyone else didn't have to do it, then it only speaks for one rider, not the entire group.

Personally I don't think it'd be all that easy to excel in any era. The top guys of yesteryear may very well have had it "harder" than the top guys today, but in a way I think the lower tier guys of back then might have had it "easier" to make a living with all the money to be made at local races compared to now. A guy might be able to make a decent living in the mid 70s riding mostly local, but not much chance of that happening today. A guy like Scott Champion, for example, might have made a lot more (comparatively) back in the 70s than he does today, even if he weren't riding on the National level each week.

Mostly apples and oranges, but I think the best thought in the thread is that the truly great riders don't really have it all that easy no matter the era. They have to work their tail off to be at the level they are no matter what.
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Law 131 owns this thread.
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Law 131 wrote:
Thanks for that link, Bobby. Jody's psycho analysis of Hannah's motivation is spot on. Any old pros that raced this guy back in day know that...
Thanks for that link, Bobby.

Jody's psycho analysis of Hannah's motivation is spot on.

Any old pros that raced this guy back in day know that (except to a few favorites) he was a prick.

It was Hannah against the world. That view, coupled with and extreme dedication to the task, made this guy stand out head and shoulders above the rest of us.

We learned that he was human when he screwed up and broke his leg.

As far as who worked harder, the old guys or the young guys, I see it like this. You young guys have taken the sport we started to the place we knew it could go. You've responded with a dedication, training, study of the intricacies of the sport, hard work and development of the bikes to a place of excellence. Well done.

As far as the comparison of effort, I see it as the same. We suffered for miles in training, so did you. Up early, we did an hour of calisthenics to torture our bodies, so do you. We didn't have Aldon Baker to push us. We had the writings of Rolf Tibblin
to remind us that proper nutrition and training would elevate us in the Pro ranks.

We pushed ourselves to the limit on the track. Our pain was no different that yours is now. It was shear torture on us as we pushed for that last 10 minutes of a 40 plus 2. The speed on the track is relative. The danger we were in was the same as yours is now. I would pull the beating heart of my competitor out of his chest and consume it as he fell, so would you.

I hope that I have taken enough time to give a well considered response to this question.

If not, I'll answer you like I would have 40 years ago.

FUCK YOU!
Great post.
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Top shape compared to today's athletes?......not even in the same ball park! For the average human being , yeah , those guys were in shape for...
Top shape compared to today's athletes?......not even in the same ball park! For the average human being , yeah , those guys were in shape for the most part , but a lot of the top riders today are damn near triathletes! The hard core training really didn't start to happen until the mid to early 80's , with the likes of Barnett , Bailey , Glover , ward , ect.......at least here in the states. The Euro's had our asses covered....why?,.....because those guys were in twice as good of shape. Most of the USA riders back then , didn't catch onto that until the early 80's.
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Hannah was the guy who really up the training for the top racers. So I'm out at Saddleback in the summer of 1978 on a mid...
Hannah was the guy who really up the training for the top racers.

So I'm out at Saddleback in the summer of 1978 on a mid week practice day, I'm sitting on the tailgate after putting in some laps.

It's getting close to 100 degrees by now and up drives Keith McCarty in the Yamaha box van and he pulls up right next to me and parks. He unloads the OW38B and puts it on the bike stand, unloads the gas and that type of stuff.

All the time, I'm waiting for Hannah to climb out the cab or back of the box van, but no Hannah.

I finally ask Keith were Bob was, he tells me "Bob's on his way, be here shortly". So I'm thinking he is driving the car or truck and is on his way.

So I look down Santiago Canyon Road and I see this guy riding his bicycle coming up the road, 10 minutes later Bob is at the box van and procedes to get dressed and then he gets on the bike for the rest of the afternoon running motos and testing.

True Story.
OW38B-Good story right there...
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jeffro503 wrote:
^^^^^^ This. This sport has evolved into an actual " Sport "........you don't get away with drinking beers and smoking 2 packs of cigs a day...
^^^^^^ This.

This sport has evolved into an actual " Sport "........you don't get away with drinking beers and smoking 2 packs of cigs a day , and still consider yourself a national contender like they did back then. Going 1/2 the speed , over shit that was built like a mini bike track compared to now days.......and yeah....I've been into this sport since the mid 70's.

It's a completely different animal now days. A lot of the guys today , do nothing but train and ride 10 hrs a day. They get more riding in a day , then those guys got in two weeks back in the day.

Of course these guys get paid more. It's a world wide sport now , and they risk their damn lives riding these bikes , at these speeds and on these type of tracks. Why do you think we lose a few due to injuries and death a few times a year now days?
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Very true. Guys who race on talent alone and rarely train usually don't get far. JLaw, Hansen, Pastrana, and now Stewart come to mind. You have...
Very true. Guys who race on talent alone and rarely train usually don't get far. JLaw, Hansen, Pastrana, and now Stewart come to mind. You have to have that motivational drive and be in awesome shape.
TP worked VERY hard.

he does not belong on that list of yours.
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bob hannah from MXA's Jody oldschool Weisel.... [b]Instead of the Hurricane just trying to back up his 1976 AMA 125 National Championship, Yamaha had him contesting...
bob hannah from MXA's Jody oldschool Weisel....

Instead of the Hurricane just trying to back up his 1976 AMA 125 National Championship, Yamaha had him contesting all four title chases. Hannah split his time between the 125 Nationals, 250 Nationals, 500 Nationals and 250 Supercross series.


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I'm thinking the reason you think the old skoolers are so bad ass is because they were so poorly trained, undernourished, and often hungover and/or stoned...
I'm thinking the reason you think the old skoolers are so bad ass is because they were so poorly trained, undernourished, and often hungover and/or stoned, that every time they pulled off the track, they were on the verge of collapse.

Any of todays kids would "politely" pass Hannah and walk away... top level athletes today my friend!
How old was Hannah when he out ran Emig in a foot race around Southwick? At the peak of Hannah's accomplishments, didn't a 30 plus year old Mikkola pass and leave him at the 'des Nations? The bikes have improved dramatically as have techniques. The closest Hannah ever got to a brake tap was getting his foot caught in the rear wheel. Science might say training programs have advanced but I would say you can hire the baddest trainer out there and if you don't do the work,,,, big deal. What's Dungey's trainer's name again?
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ATKpilot99 6/5/2011 3:58pm
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Whats kind of hilarious is its a moot argument. The guys who were fast then would be fast now and the guys who are fast now would be fast then. End of story.
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BobbyM wrote:
bob hannah from MXA's Jody oldschool Weisel.... [b]Instead of the Hurricane just trying to back up his 1976 AMA 125 National Championship, Yamaha had him contesting...
bob hannah from MXA's Jody oldschool Weisel....

Instead of the Hurricane just trying to back up his 1976 AMA 125 National Championship, Yamaha had him contesting all four title chases. Hannah split his time between the 125 Nationals, 250 Nationals, 500 Nationals and 250 Supercross series.


[url]http://www.motocrossactionmag.com/Main/News/JODYS-TRUE-STORY-OF-LET-BRO…]
Outsider wrote:
I'm thinking the reason you think the old skoolers are so bad ass is because they were so poorly trained, undernourished, and often hungover and/or stoned...
I'm thinking the reason you think the old skoolers are so bad ass is because they were so poorly trained, undernourished, and often hungover and/or stoned, that every time they pulled off the track, they were on the verge of collapse.

Any of todays kids would "politely" pass Hannah and walk away... top level athletes today my friend!
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How old was Hannah when he out ran Emig in a foot race around Southwick? At the peak of Hannah's accomplishments, didn't a 30 plus year...
How old was Hannah when he out ran Emig in a foot race around Southwick? At the peak of Hannah's accomplishments, didn't a 30 plus year old Mikkola pass and leave him at the 'des Nations? The bikes have improved dramatically as have techniques. The closest Hannah ever got to a brake tap was getting his foot caught in the rear wheel. Science might say training programs have advanced but I would say you can hire the baddest trainer out there and if you don't do the work,,,, big deal. What's Dungey's trainer's name again?
You"e comparing Hannah to Emig? lol... How about Hannah to Dungey or Canard....
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And to say the riders today have it easy as is stated in the title of the thread is idiotic.
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LOL! Bob caught the limit and had to throw a few back... too funny!
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ATKpilot99 6/5/2011 4:55pm
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LOL! Bob caught the limit and had to throw a few back... too funny!
Ha youre right....on second thought I doubt Hannah would make the fast 40 today...Laughing

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