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8/23/2025 9:28am
T-MAC wrote:
And politics is a particular important topic, and more people than ever (myself included) are tuned in and trying to make sense of things.While the name-calling...

And politics is a particular important topic, and more people than ever (myself included) are tuned in and trying to make sense of things.

While the name-calling is frustrating, I often find valuable back and forth in a lot of these threads. It is good to challenge each other and our own beliefs, but we shouldn't be here to change each other's minds or let others know how idiotic they are for thinking a certain way.

I find Vital an oddly valuable place to engage in political discussion. There are some pretty sharp folks here who have a lot of valuable life experience from all walks of life. If you're on an online moto forum, you are a passionate person, and these are the best types of people to engage with. 

Yep. It’s easy to get carried away in politics, but there’s really nowhere else to talk about it. 

I can’t imagine bothering ML at the track. What kind of crotchety Karen does that? 

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AZ35
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8/23/2025 9:39am

^^^ crotchety Karen.... lol

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T-MAC
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8/23/2025 9:52am

Those damn crochety Karens and their whiny vaginas...

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AZ35 wrote:
I get how things escalating (usually between the same 6-8 people) turns many threads into a shit show (mostly in political threads).But sending every political thread...

I get how things escalating (usually between the same 6-8 people) turns many threads into a shit show (mostly in political threads).

But sending every political thread immediately to the dumbgeon, this place will have nothing but cobwebs and crickets.

Almost all of the views and comments are in the political threads, I don't know the answer to moderate that fairly but without political threads the click count will be comparatively almost nothing.

Pretty sure clicks are what pays the bills for VitalMX to remain a viable business, so eliminating the subjects that garner the most attention is probably not in the best business interest for this website.

The views of all political threads in non-moto are minuscule. Less than 1% of our total page views per month.

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T-MAC wrote:
And politics is a particular important topic, and more people than ever (myself included) are tuned in and trying to make sense of things.While the name-calling...

And politics is a particular important topic, and more people than ever (myself included) are tuned in and trying to make sense of things.

While the name-calling is frustrating, I often find valuable back and forth in a lot of these threads. It is good to challenge each other and our own beliefs, but we shouldn't be here to change each other's minds or let others know how idiotic they are for thinking a certain way.

I find Vital an oddly valuable place to engage in political discussion. There are some pretty sharp folks here who have a lot of valuable life experience from all walks of life. If you're on an online moto forum, you are a passionate person, and these are the best types of people to engage with. 

burn1986 wrote:
Yep. It’s easy to get carried away in politics, but there’s really nowhere else to talk about it. I can’t imagine bothering ML at the track. What...

Yep. It’s easy to get carried away in politics, but there’s really nowhere else to talk about it. 

I can’t imagine bothering ML at the track. What kind of crotchety Karen does that? 

People come up to me to talk about their bike, my bikes, mention being on the forum, then it’s come up. 

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ns503
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8/23/2025 11:10am

I can't imagine seeking you out at the track to complain about the board. But i could see it being mentioned in a general conversation. 'Btw, non moto is kind of a train wreck these days. Yo.'

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8/23/2025 12:03pm

So this is hell. That's good news since I will be spending eternity there. It's not going to be as bad as I thought. 

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8/23/2025 12:35pm
ML512 wrote:

People come up to me to talk about their bike, my bikes, mention being on the forum, then it’s come up. 

So who was it? 😁

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8/23/2025 12:36pm

So this is hell. That's good news since I will be spending eternity there. It's not going to be as bad as I thought. 

You’re a funny dude void 😂

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8/23/2025 5:19pm

So you think I should do another test later?

If that lesion isnt healed by now,  you darn sure need to get another test !

😷

 

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8/23/2025 5:23pm

So this is hell. That's good news since I will be spending eternity there. It's not going to be as bad as I thought. 

You'll be fine,  you make friends easily !

  FeelsNice

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8/23/2025 5:49pm

So this is hell. That's good news since I will be spending eternity there. It's not going to be as bad as I thought. 

JAFO92 wrote:
You'll be fine,  you make friends easily ! 

You'll be fine,  you make friends easily !

  FeelsNice

Oh Man! 😂

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borg
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8/23/2025 5:56pm

So this is hell. That's good news since I will be spending eternity there. It's not going to be as bad as I thought. 

Void, you are a fucking treasure.

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Oldschool
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8/23/2025 6:16pm Edited Date/Time 8/23/2025 6:17pm

Doesn't bother me , it is what it is and we're all still here posting !

Levi Kitchen 3rd Overall !

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8/23/2025 6:26pm
Oldschool wrote:

Doesn't bother me , it is what it is and we're all still here posting !

Levi Kitchen 3rd Overall !

Weird day wasn't it? Deegan would do well to gain just a bit of humility. Then again, the Lawrence bros may force feed it to him next year.

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8/23/2025 10:03pm

I've lurked a lot more than participated in the moto side. I believe I've seen just as much if not more fighting over there. Maybe I missed quite a bit the last 8 months I was gone.

TM

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8/24/2025 1:05pm

Yup, all you have to do is open a Deegan thread and your first thought is, I think I'll mossy over to nonmoto for a bit of light reading lol

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8/24/2025 2:34pm Edited Date/Time 8/24/2025 2:37pm
ToolMaker wrote:
Yup, all you have to do is open a Deegan thread and your first thought is, I think I'll mossy over to nonmoto for a bit...

Yup, all you have to do is open a Deegan thread and your first thought is, I think I'll mossy over to nonmoto for a bit of light reading lol

Exactly. 

Registered here with thoughts of adding to discussions about SX and Motocross. 

Found moto to be almost as bad as FB pages. I remember making just a few initial comments in a race thread, and within minutes three members were attacking my words.

Still ignore the one to this day, one was permabooted not long after, and one recently went batshit crazy on my ass for something I supposedly said years ago to the one now permabooted. 

Still, this place has a long way to go to reach the level of vile depravity of the old ridemonkey cycling forum of 20yrs ago.

(Not that that's a goal) 🙂

That place was one of the worst forums I've ever been on. I guess it's still around, if it hasn't imploded.

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8/24/2025 2:38pm
T-MAC wrote:
And politics is a particular important topic, and more people than ever (myself included) are tuned in and trying to make sense of things.While the name-calling...

And politics is a particular important topic, and more people than ever (myself included) are tuned in and trying to make sense of things.

While the name-calling is frustrating, I often find valuable back and forth in a lot of these threads. It is good to challenge each other and our own beliefs, but we shouldn't be here to change each other's minds or let others know how idiotic they are for thinking a certain way.

I find Vital an oddly valuable place to engage in political discussion. There are some pretty sharp folks here who have a lot of valuable life experience from all walks of life. If you're on an online moto forum, you are a passionate person, and these are the best types of people to engage with. 

burn1986 wrote:
Yep. It’s easy to get carried away in politics, but there’s really nowhere else to talk about it. I can’t imagine bothering ML at the track. What...

Yep. It’s easy to get carried away in politics, but there’s really nowhere else to talk about it. 

I can’t imagine bothering ML at the track. What kind of crotchety Karen does that? 

Why would anyone come to a moto website to talk about politics ?? seriously if you want to talk politics go to one of the thousands of political websites out there and you can argue all day long. 

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8/25/2025 7:25am
T-MAC wrote:
And politics is a particular important topic, and more people than ever (myself included) are tuned in and trying to make sense of things.While the name-calling...

And politics is a particular important topic, and more people than ever (myself included) are tuned in and trying to make sense of things.

While the name-calling is frustrating, I often find valuable back and forth in a lot of these threads. It is good to challenge each other and our own beliefs, but we shouldn't be here to change each other's minds or let others know how idiotic they are for thinking a certain way.

I find Vital an oddly valuable place to engage in political discussion. There are some pretty sharp folks here who have a lot of valuable life experience from all walks of life. If you're on an online moto forum, you are a passionate person, and these are the best types of people to engage with. 

burn1986 wrote:
Yep. It’s easy to get carried away in politics, but there’s really nowhere else to talk about it. I can’t imagine bothering ML at the track. What...

Yep. It’s easy to get carried away in politics, but there’s really nowhere else to talk about it. 

I can’t imagine bothering ML at the track. What kind of crotchety Karen does that? 

lostboy819 wrote:
Why would anyone come to a moto website to talk about politics ?? seriously if you want to talk politics go to one of the thousands...

Why would anyone come to a moto website to talk about politics ?? seriously if you want to talk politics go to one of the thousands of political websites out there and you can argue all day long. 

Asking for a friend, 2 questions,

What does "Non-Moto" mean to you?

And if you post something "Moto", why does it get moved out?

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Imagine being at the racetrack surrounded by the sound of engines, loamy dirt, and horsepower… and instead of enjoying it, you’re bugging the forum owner to complain about the non-moto section. That’s not passion for riding — that’s professional whining.

Moto forum has always been worse, and anyone denying that just outs themselves as a casual who barely participates. If the political threads get under your skin, there’s already a solution: don’t participate in them. Keep scrolling.

This isn’t complicated. Forums are like sandboxes — eventually they fill with crap and need a quick raking. The rest of us understand that and carry on. But running to the owner like it’s tattletale time at recess? That’s just embarrassing.

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ns503
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TXDirt wrote:
Imagine being at the racetrack surrounded by the sound of engines, loamy dirt, and horsepower… and instead of enjoying it, you’re bugging the forum owner to...

Imagine being at the racetrack surrounded by the sound of engines, loamy dirt, and horsepower… and instead of enjoying it, you’re bugging the forum owner to complain about the non-moto section. That’s not passion for riding — that’s professional whining.

Moto forum has always been worse, and anyone denying that just outs themselves as a casual who barely participates. If the political threads get under your skin, there’s already a solution: don’t participate in them. Keep scrolling.

This isn’t complicated. Forums are like sandboxes — eventually they fill with crap and need a quick raking. The rest of us understand that and carry on. But running to the owner like it’s tattletale time at recess? That’s just embarrassing.

* Reported.

(Lol...)

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lumpy790
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8/25/2025 10:05am

Michael ….. lets have a sit down at the MXoN. Look for the flag in the High Point RV section.

IMO politics posts will always turn into a shit storm. There is a reason I do not click and read it.

8/25/2025 11:02am
burn1986 wrote:
Yep. It’s easy to get carried away in politics, but there’s really nowhere else to talk about it. I can’t imagine bothering ML at the track. What...

Yep. It’s easy to get carried away in politics, but there’s really nowhere else to talk about it. 

I can’t imagine bothering ML at the track. What kind of crotchety Karen does that? 

lostboy819 wrote:
Why would anyone come to a moto website to talk about politics ?? seriously if you want to talk politics go to one of the thousands...

Why would anyone come to a moto website to talk about politics ?? seriously if you want to talk politics go to one of the thousands of political websites out there and you can argue all day long. 

ToolMaker wrote:

Asking for a friend, 2 questions,

What does "Non-Moto" mean to you?

And if you post something "Moto", why does it get moved out?

And its always been no politics or religion but you clowns do it anyway. 😅

 

8/25/2025 11:07am
lostboy819 wrote:
Why would anyone come to a moto website to talk about politics ?? seriously if you want to talk politics go to one of the thousands...

Why would anyone come to a moto website to talk about politics ?? seriously if you want to talk politics go to one of the thousands of political websites out there and you can argue all day long. 

ToolMaker wrote:

Asking for a friend, 2 questions,

What does "Non-Moto" mean to you?

And if you post something "Moto", why does it get moved out?

lostboy819 wrote:

And its always been no politics or religion but you clowns do it anyway. 😅

 

I guess you didn't see the sign on the way into town Bob. Check out #4 https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Non-Moto,21/Non-Moto-Posting-Guidlines,1399607

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8/25/2025 11:23am Edited Date/Time 8/25/2025 11:24am
lostboy819 wrote:
Why would anyone come to a moto website to talk about politics ?? seriously if you want to talk politics go to one of the thousands...

Why would anyone come to a moto website to talk about politics ?? seriously if you want to talk politics go to one of the thousands of political websites out there and you can argue all day long. 

ToolMaker wrote:

Asking for a friend, 2 questions,

What does "Non-Moto" mean to you?

And if you post something "Moto", why does it get moved out?

lostboy819 wrote:

And its always been no politics or religion but you clowns do it anyway. 😅

 

GuyB did not allow it. 

Sorry to throw you under the bus but After Michael took over he changed it.

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8/25/2025 12:04pm Edited Date/Time 8/25/2025 12:05pm
lostboy819 wrote:
Why would anyone come to a moto website to talk about politics ?? seriously if you want to talk politics go to one of the thousands...

Why would anyone come to a moto website to talk about politics ?? seriously if you want to talk politics go to one of the thousands of political websites out there and you can argue all day long. 

ToolMaker wrote:

Asking for a friend, 2 questions,

What does "Non-Moto" mean to you?

And if you post something "Moto", why does it get moved out?

lostboy819 wrote:

And its always been no politics or religion but you clowns do it anyway. 😅

 

You mean rule #4?

4. Political discussions will be allowed as long as they're civil. You can all disagree and argue to your heart's desire but as soon as a discussion quits being a discussion (shit talking, calling other members by derogatory names, or personal threats) it will be dealt with. When you've lost the ability to defend your position and result to childish insults, you're no longer having a discussion worth having. Someone attacks you? Just report it, don't fire back, or you'll also find yourself suspended with the original culprit. As the old saying goes, two wrongs do not make a right.

The problem is, that in life, so many things are affected by politics. How many people on here enjoy their firearms? Yes, politics greatly affect that. How about driving a car? Politics affect that too. How about building a house? Regulations affected by politics. People that need help from disasters? You guessed it, politics. The problem isn't talking about politics, it's when you attack the person vs the post. If you're willing to post something, it's fair game to scrutinize. And as with everything, there's always nuggets of good within the bad and bad within the good. We don't always know the bigger picture but civil discussion reveals more information which is always good. Sometimes it entrenches you more sometimes it makes you question why you believe a certain thing. A lot of people were pissed Deegan cut the track, but if you point out something he did well, all of a sudden your a nut hanger. And that's not just a Deegan thread that's a lot of threads. And quite frankly, If I post I'm a Jett fan, there are names for that too. Why? And just like that, because you don't like politics, everyone's a clown. You made yourself into the bad example.

TM

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burn1986
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8/25/2025 12:06pm
TXDirt wrote:
Imagine being at the racetrack surrounded by the sound of engines, loamy dirt, and horsepower… and instead of enjoying it, you’re bugging the forum owner to...

Imagine being at the racetrack surrounded by the sound of engines, loamy dirt, and horsepower… and instead of enjoying it, you’re bugging the forum owner to complain about the non-moto section. That’s not passion for riding — that’s professional whining.

Moto forum has always been worse, and anyone denying that just outs themselves as a casual who barely participates. If the political threads get under your skin, there’s already a solution: don’t participate in them. Keep scrolling.

This isn’t complicated. Forums are like sandboxes — eventually they fill with crap and need a quick raking. The rest of us understand that and carry on. But running to the owner like it’s tattletale time at recess? That’s just embarrassing.

ns503 wrote:

* Reported.

(Lol...)

Lol.

You had me going. I thought You he did he report that?

😎

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