You're on the track and your throttle sticks WFO just before a jump (what do you do?)

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Talk about a nightmare scenario!

What could/would you do to not end up going home in an ambulance?

You could pull the clutch but would you endo? Brake tapping drops the front end quickly so maybe just pulling the clutch and no back brake you could save it?

I had a throttle stick wide open when I was 15 years old racing on the Shadow Glen Track at Indian Dunes and my bike ended up hanging upside down on a chain link fence. when it happened I had no idea what to do.

For sure a rare event but having a plan just in case can't hurt

 

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Yank on every lever available 😂

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Hold on and pray 

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Hold on and pray 

That’s option B if my option A above doesn’t work 😂

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4/21/2024 12:04pm

On a mx track (let alone sx track), I’m done if the throttle sticks at pretty much any point. In the desert I’d probably hit the kill and pull the clutch in no particular order and see how it goes 

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I'm fairly instinctive with the clutch. Comes with the 2 stroke territory.

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4/21/2024 12:31pm

waking up 20 minutes later in the back of an ambulance.

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Probably doing the “big triple” for the first and only time in my life…😂

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Pull the clutch.

Back in my school boy days i had the throttle body cover come loose in the first turn of a moto on my 125.

it was a mikuni TMX carb with 3 bolts that hold the cover and they hade come loose.

I rode the whole 20 + 2 moto with a full open throttle just using the clutch in the air and turns.

 

On a SX track it’s another thing but a pro rider should be able to pull in the clutch to prevent a loop-out.

 

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You do your best Nadia Comăneci impression and wait for the judges to score you....

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4/21/2024 12:47pm Edited Date/Time 4/21/2024 12:51pm

Clutch. 

It happened to me too at the end of the WFO 5th gear pinned fastest part of a track, with a 7 feet tall huge pile of tires in the corner to send whatever comes in to the moon. Literally you have .1 or 0.01 seconds to take the right decision. I don't have nightmares at night, but for sure I could !

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shit my pants 

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I'd probably wad myself up. That happened to a friend of mine on a 113-foot step-up.  This MOFO calm as ever, clutched it up the face, greased the landing, and pulled off the track like nothing ever happened. He’s also a former pro and felt the need to jump it every lap. If only I could be so in tune with my bike.  Also why I alway buy OEM cables.

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The problem with stuck throttle is that it's typically happening at the "wrong time", with body in opposite position than you want it to be. That's why it most of the time goes to shit and you don't have time to react. When you grasp the situation and potentially can pull your body back, pull the clutch in, it's to late. 

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aees wrote:
The problem with stuck throttle is that it's typically happening at the "wrong time", with body in opposite position than you want it to be. That's...

The problem with stuck throttle is that it's typically happening at the "wrong time", with body in opposite position than you want it to be. That's why it most of the time goes to shit and you don't have time to react. When you grasp the situation and potentially can pull your body back, pull the clutch in, it's to late. 

As Reed said, always one finger on the clutch.

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Had this happen years ago on my  88 CR250. Throttle stuck wide open on a big jump that was right in front of the grandstands. Had to ghost ride the bike in mid air and watch it fly over the next corner, clear a fence and come to rest on the backside of another berm. Luckily wasn't hurt and bike shut off on its own. Got up and bowed to the crowd, totally looking like a goon.

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Pull the clutch, stomp on the brakes, and lean back as much as you can and then let go of the bike. Bailing off the back is much better than endoing anyday, anywhere.

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I used to have a recurring nightmare that I just jumped a huge double with lots of height and airtime. Then my front wheel would fall off midflight. Always woke up before impact.

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I have only had one stuck throttle ever. 93-94 was at lake Whitney practicing on a weekend. Was literally only me and my dad there that day. Track was un-prepped dry and beat to shit. I had a 93 YZ80. My dad changed a clip on the needle and didn’t tighten it back all the way. Come around the S turn before the finish line jump holding it basically wide open up to the jump. When I went to let off the throttle getting close to the face it just stuck open. I was pretty new to Mx. My first year. I completely froze. I know now I wasn’t that high in the air but back then it felt like I was in a damn helicopter 😂😂. I flat landed and crashed/tumbled into the big sandy left sweeper after it. Bike just laying on the track running wide open and I sat up wondering wtf just happened. one of the scariest things ever on a bike. I checked those damn carbs every-time after that lol
 

So what would I do? Apparently freeze 😂 

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I told this before.  Throttle on my CZ stuck wide open right before I crossed the finish line at a MX track in Lawton Oklahoma back before electricity was invented.  I was in second place trying to catch the guy in front of me.  Another half a lap and would have passed him.  Typical finish line, corner, then short straight away and jump at the finish line.  I knew going over than jump I was in trouble.  Pulled the clutch in, stood on the brake ran off the track, through a crowd of people.  Plastic banner flag got hung in my rear tire/around my sprocket and stalled my bike.  We like to have never hot that flagging unwrapped.  Took my second place trophy with me we drank 3.2 Oklahoma beer all the way back home.  It’s a wonder how we survived those days but it was fun.

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On the assumption that you don't want to jump off the bike unless there is no other choice - I think you pull the clutch, hit the brakes hard, upshift a gear (so hopefully the engine bogs a little before the jump face) then release the clutch before the jump face. (Might have to pull the clutch again in the air if it starts to loop) as soon as you land safe you pull the clutch and skid to a stop. kill the engine any way you can

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Hoping that it doesn’t head toward bystanders or spectators 

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aees wrote:
The problem with stuck throttle is that it's typically happening at the "wrong time", with body in opposite position than you want it to be. That's...

The problem with stuck throttle is that it's typically happening at the "wrong time", with body in opposite position than you want it to be. That's why it most of the time goes to shit and you don't have time to react. When you grasp the situation and potentially can pull your body back, pull the clutch in, it's to late. 

Exactly. Everyone saying pull in the clutch… It takes a sec before you realize wth is going on. Then you get in the air and the bike is ‘air wheelie-ing’ since you took off wide open and your body positioning is at the back of the bike. so the only option is to eject off the back. That’s what happened to me and I broke my femur. 

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My throttle stuck on my 1990 CR 125.  I was a lowly C class rider and racing in Hillsboro KS.  Right before the finish line jump there were five whoops.  I sucked so I would go double double single out.  Came around the corner and hit the first two and my throttle stuck open.  Tripled out though!  However, I did not stick the landing and crashed.  It was a mellow crash and no injuries.  I was on the ground before I even realized my throttle was stuck.  Luckily it wasn't a Rick Melon situation.

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Nairb#70 wrote:
I used to have a recurring nightmare that I just jumped a huge double with lots of height and airtime. Then my front wheel would fall...

I used to have a recurring nightmare that I just jumped a huge double with lots of height and airtime. Then my front wheel would fall off midflight. Always woke up before impact.

Man my recurring nightmare growing up through my teens was a stuck throttle off of leaches lump at washougal. I’d always wake up before I’d hit the “Huffman five”

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Tumic wrote:
Pull the clutch. Back in my school boy days i had the throttle body cover come loose in the first turn of a moto on my...

Pull the clutch.

Back in my school boy days i had the throttle body cover come loose in the first turn of a moto on my 125.

it was a mikuni TMX carb with 3 bolts that hold the cover and they hade come loose.

I rode the whole 20 + 2 moto with a full open throttle just using the clutch in the air and turns.

 

On a SX track it’s another thing but a pro rider should be able to pull in the clutch to prevent a loop-out.

 

I don't believe you.

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Ozy wrote:
Talk about a nightmare scenario! What could/would you do to not end up going home in an ambulance? You could pull the clutch but would you...

Talk about a nightmare scenario!

What could/would you do to not end up going home in an ambulance?

You could pull the clutch but would you endo? Brake tapping drops the front end quickly so maybe just pulling the clutch and no back brake you could save it?

I had a throttle stick wide open when I was 15 years old racing on the Shadow Glen Track at Indian Dunes and my bike ended up hanging upside down on a chain link fence. when it happened I had no idea what to do.

For sure a rare event but having a plan just in case can't hurt

 

Happened to my dad a few years ago at Glen Helen going up Shoei hill, his bike also ended up in the chain link fence 

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Ozy wrote:
Talk about a nightmare scenario! What could/would you do to not end up going home in an ambulance? You could pull the clutch but would you...

Talk about a nightmare scenario!

What could/would you do to not end up going home in an ambulance?

You could pull the clutch but would you endo? Brake tapping drops the front end quickly so maybe just pulling the clutch and no back brake you could save it?

I had a throttle stick wide open when I was 15 years old racing on the Shadow Glen Track at Indian Dunes and my bike ended up hanging upside down on a chain link fence. when it happened I had no idea what to do.

For sure a rare event but having a plan just in case can't hurt

 

mustard530 wrote:

Happened to my dad a few years ago at Glen Helen going up Shoei hill, his bike also ended up in the chain link fence 

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aees wrote:
The problem with stuck throttle is that it's typically happening at the "wrong time", with body in opposite position than you want it to be. That's...

The problem with stuck throttle is that it's typically happening at the "wrong time", with body in opposite position than you want it to be. That's why it most of the time goes to shit and you don't have time to react. When you grasp the situation and potentially can pull your body back, pull the clutch in, it's to late. 

This! In 45 years of riding, happened to me twice. Everyone says just grab the clutch. Doesn’t work that way. Ask me how I know!

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Yeah you would think you would grab the clutch but things happen so fast it’s hard to react unless you have some room. I always ride with fingers in clutch, about 11-12 years ago throttle stuck WFO on my KTM 150 going into a corner with a tall berm. Next thing I knew I was in the trees and laying there saying WTF? Had some friends load up my bike and somehow drove home using cruise control on/off, luckily was only 40 minutes away. Got home and told wife I need to lay down, she let me but called my neighbor who is a nurse. She talked me into going to ER. Turns out I had a bunch of broken ribs and a collapsed lung, got to spend some time in the hospital and the sleep in a recliner for a bit. Got rid of that bike ASAP even though I loved it up to that point…YouTube stuck dirt bike throttle and you’ll find some videos that make you wonder how people survived. Glad I just glanced off the trees after the berm, there were a couple larger ones that could’ve done some pretty bad damage if I was a couple inches over.

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Early 2000's had the throttle stick on a YZ 250 landing from a double jump. Tried to pull the clutch and hit the kill button at the same time to no avail. Hit a downed tree on edge of the track and went flipping into a swamp. My buddy who happened to be behind me and with eyes as big as saucers stopped and asked if I was ok and thankfully I was. Could never figure out why it stuck open but soon after Yamaha had a recall on YZ throttle tubes.

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