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Edited Date/Time 5/7/2025 5:37pm

Webb 5th or worse and the title is Chase's (provided he wins).

Reverse the roles and we all know full well Webb is going for the for the kill. We've seen it before (this isn't a bad thing).

We saw it last week with Deegs and Cole for a regional 250 title.

Most of us agree that this isn't Chase. He's going to the front, checking out and hoping for the best.

What's everyone's opinions on this? Take the high road and hope for the best, or dig in, get a little aggressive, and fight for it? 

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5/7/2025 4:54pm Edited Date/Time 5/7/2025 5:01pm
BS12 wrote:
Webb 5th or worse and the title is Chase's (provided he wins).Reverse the roles and we all know full well Webb is going for the for...

Webb 5th or worse and the title is Chase's (provided he wins).

Reverse the roles and we all know full well Webb is going for the for the kill. We've seen it before (this isn't a bad thing).

We saw it last week with Deegs and Cole for a regional 250 title.

Most of us agree that this isn't Chase. He's going to the front, checking out and hoping for the best.

What's everyone's opinions on this? Take the high road and hope for the best, or dig in, get a little aggressive, and fight for it? 

If Chase wins, Webb would have to finish 6th or worse for Chase to win the championship. 

Edit to add: If by some disastrous event Chase finishes 2nd, he would need Webb to finish 9th or worse. Even worse? Chase finishes 3rd, he would need Webb to finish 11th or worse. Anything can happen to Webb but Chase NEEDS to win. If he starts playing games his chances of winning get lower and lower. 

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5/7/2025 4:59pm

Chase needs to run his own race, win and let the rest play out. Aside from a crash or mechanical, Webb will win the title, and he’s earned every bit of it. 

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5/7/2025 5:17pm

If something happens to Webb, and Chase wins, let's not say it needs an *. Either guy has earned it at this point.

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I've never been much of a fan of officiating any sport drastically different in the end than you would in the beginning. If bunching guys up and knocking people down wouldn't be accepted at A1 it shouldn't be accepted in the last round either. 

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Remind me again ….. What place did Bradshaw have to get to win the SX championship?

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5/7/2025 6:01pm

I say bunch em up. Might never get this opportunity again.

 

I never even considered this until Tomac did it, but it's his best chance. Webb would ride aggressive or try to bunch em if he was second in points. 

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5/7/2025 6:08pm

If he didn't bunch them up or at least get a bit more aggressive with Webb last week when he could have easily finished 4th or 5th I don't see him suddenly try something now that it's pretty much too late 

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5/7/2025 9:47pm

I think he would lose a lot of respect if he took Webb out. 

But then again look at the Osborne/Savatgy situation 🤔

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BS12 wrote:
Webb 5th or worse and the title is Chase's (provided he wins).Reverse the roles and we all know full well Webb is going for the for...

Webb 5th or worse and the title is Chase's (provided he wins).

Reverse the roles and we all know full well Webb is going for the for the kill. We've seen it before (this isn't a bad thing).

We saw it last week with Deegs and Cole for a regional 250 title.

Most of us agree that this isn't Chase. He's going to the front, checking out and hoping for the best.

What's everyone's opinions on this? Take the high road and hope for the best, or dig in, get a little aggressive, and fight for it? 

Webb is going for the kill?.

When he raced Tomac for the title in 2020 I’m pretty sure that he just shouted at him on the gate and then rode around reving his bike behind Eli. I don’t remember Webb doing any killing when he was in that position?.


Like it or not but the current 450 TOP riders race clean now days. I said top because neither Anderson or Barcia is in that exclusive group of riders that are title contenders.

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5/8/2025 6:43am

Has anyone successfully taken Webb out before in SX? I can only recall Tomac putting Webb and himself down at a Daytona heat race when he was a 450 rookie, but I think Webb got back on saddle faster and got going ahead of him. Taking anyone down cleanly is easier said than done, especially the #2.

That said, it's a unique situation that Chase may not come across again. Final round I say no holds barred & hope no one gets injured. It's not like they're teammates or anything...

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Has anyone successfully taken Webb out before in SX? I can only recall Tomac putting Webb and himself down at a Daytona heat race when he...

Has anyone successfully taken Webb out before in SX? I can only recall Tomac putting Webb and himself down at a Daytona heat race when he was a 450 rookie, but I think Webb got back on saddle faster and got going ahead of him. Taking anyone down cleanly is easier said than done, especially the #2.

That said, it's a unique situation that Chase may not come across again. Final round I say no holds barred & hope no one gets injured. It's not like they're teammates or anything...

Roczen when he got his arm stuck in Webbs swing arm is the only time I remember, and that wasn’t a takeout really just kinda a dumb move on Roczen’s part. 

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I'd say bunching up the riders is strategy. The guy in front gets to go however fast he wants to, and if he rides at a moderate pace so as not to blow everyone away that's his prerogative. I wouldn't criticize Chase one bit for doing that. It's quite a bit more ethical than taking someone out in a corner, IMO.

 

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5/8/2025 10:13am

Tyler Bowers (911) took out Webb (17 red plate) in the 250 class back in 2015. Routine AX move

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peanutt wrote:

Tyler Bowers (911) took out Webb (17 red plate) in the 250 class back in 2015. Routine AX move

Karma is a B word Bowers!!!

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peanutt wrote:

Tyler Bowers (911) took out Webb (17 red plate) in the 250 class back in 2015. Routine AX move

crusty_xx wrote:

Karma is a B word Bowers!!!

i can still see that pass in my head to this day. bowers was a menace on a 250

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5/8/2025 11:02am

Chase had his chance to control his own destiny to win outright but could not get it done in Pittsburg even though he started right behind Webb. No way in hell Webb is dumb enough to fall prey to any goofy stuff Sexton might try. Hell let Deegan ride a 450 at Salt lake to ride interference 😁

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Has anyone successfully taken Webb out before in SX? I can only recall Tomac putting Webb and himself down at a Daytona heat race when he...

Has anyone successfully taken Webb out before in SX? I can only recall Tomac putting Webb and himself down at a Daytona heat race when he was a 450 rookie, but I think Webb got back on saddle faster and got going ahead of him. Taking anyone down cleanly is easier said than done, especially the #2.

That said, it's a unique situation that Chase may not come across again. Final round I say no holds barred & hope no one gets injured. It's not like they're teammates or anything...

Nashville 2023 Cooper ran it in on Tomac the second turn then Tomac just sort of undercut him then we remember what happend with AC hitting his head, points were tight that year. 

 

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lostboy819 wrote:
Chase had his chance to control his own destiny to win outright but could not get it done in Pittsburg even though he started right behind...

Chase had his chance to control his own destiny to win outright but could not get it done in Pittsburg even though he started right behind Webb. No way in hell Webb is dumb enough to fall prey to any goofy stuff Sexton might try. Hell let Deegan ride a 450 at Salt lake to ride interference 😁

Deegan has an outdoor title to defend in a couple weeks, he don't need that smoke.

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lumpy790 wrote:

Remind me again ….. What place did Bradshaw have to get to win the SX championship?

I heard he made more money but not winning the title. If he won, it would’ve kicked in an extension with the same pay, but since he didn’t, he renegotiated and got a new contract worth more money. Could be wrong 🤷🏻‍♂️

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5/8/2025 1:14pm

It would be funny if sexton tried to bunch up the field and Webb takes out his front wheel and goes on to win the race. 

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5/8/2025 1:30pm
lumpy790 wrote:

Remind me again ….. What place did Bradshaw have to get to win the SX championship?

ohh_454 wrote:
I heard he made more money but not winning the title. If he won, it would’ve kicked in an extension with the same pay, but since...

I heard he made more money but not winning the title. If he won, it would’ve kicked in an extension with the same pay, but since he didn’t, he renegotiated and got a new contract worth more money. Could be wrong 🤷🏻‍♂️

I recall hearing that story as well. The bug nut fit that Lunnis pitched after the race lends a good bit of credibility to the tale. jmo

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5/8/2025 1:40pm Edited Date/Time 5/8/2025 1:43pm
lostboy819 wrote:
Chase had his chance to control his own destiny to win outright but could not get it done in Pittsburg even though he started right behind...

Chase had his chance to control his own destiny to win outright but could not get it done in Pittsburg even though he started right behind Webb. No way in hell Webb is dumb enough to fall prey to any goofy stuff Sexton might try. Hell let Deegan ride a 450 at Salt lake to ride interference 😁

kxking wrote:

Deegan has an outdoor title to defend in a couple weeks, he don't need that smoke.

No but he craves the attention and all the press he can get. But then again Webb doesn't need any help handling Sexton. Webb is a 10 in the mental game and Sexton is Sexton and will probably throw it away or choke, you can set your watch by it  😎

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5/8/2025 9:41pm
peanutt wrote:

Tyler Bowers (911) took out Webb (17 red plate) in the 250 class back in 2015. Routine AX move

crusty_xx wrote:

Karma is a B word Bowers!!!

levimx22 wrote:

i can still see that pass in my head to this day. bowers was a menace on a 250

Yeah and he's a big boy.

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Tumic wrote:
Webb is going for the kill?.When he raced Tomac for the title in 2020 I’m pretty sure that he just shouted at him on the gate...

Webb is going for the kill?.

When he raced Tomac for the title in 2020 I’m pretty sure that he just shouted at him on the gate and then rode around reving his bike behind Eli. I don’t remember Webb doing any killing when he was in that position?.


Like it or not but the current 450 TOP riders race clean now days. I said top because neither Anderson or Barcia is in that exclusive group of riders that are title contenders.

I could swear I remember at the latter rounds of one season, he was a real outside chance, but still a chance, and he went for his immediate competitor's front wheel every chance he got in the first corners. Not for a total kill but like, purposely brake checking or targeting a very calculated block/push wide etc. Must have been against Tomac? It could have been the residency SLC year? I'm sure there were replays and commentary, and you could see it pretty clearly, that in the first corners he was very smart about where he put it his bike.

That said, the mind games, on track tactics. I still feel if roles were reversed, Webb is going onto the start line this weekend with a cigarette, a pit board that says "champion" sat in view of Chase, and a radar for Chase this weekend. 

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I could swear I remember at the latter rounds of one season, he was a real outside chance, but still a chance, and he went for...

I could swear I remember at the latter rounds of one season, he was a real outside chance, but still a chance, and he went for his immediate competitor's front wheel every chance he got in the first corners. Not for a total kill but like, purposely brake checking or targeting a very calculated block/push wide etc. Must have been against Tomac? It could have been the residency SLC year? I'm sure there were replays and commentary, and you could see it pretty clearly, that in the first corners he was very smart about where he put it his bike.

That said, the mind games, on track tactics. I still feel if roles were reversed, Webb is going onto the start line this weekend with a cigarette, a pit board that says "champion" sat in view of Chase, and a radar for Chase this weekend. 

I would not call playing games going for the kill. 

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a fan of takeouts for titles etc. If your speed won’t cut it I don’t see it as a strength to start riding dirty and take riders out.

I’m just pointing out that when Webb was in the same position, he did no killing neither. And that’s good. The racing gets better when the racers trust each other and know that they can race close and hard without any bone head moves.

5/9/2025 1:46am

Chase will choke to second, Ando will win and Webb will finish 4th behind the Rhinestone Cowboy.

STAMP IT

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5/9/2025 6:10am Edited Date/Time 5/9/2025 6:11am

If Chase starts playing  games, i think Cooper  will squirt past and win.  Webb is MUCH better at games.

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5/9/2025 8:38am

If Chase starts playing  games, i think Cooper  will squirt past and win.  Webb is MUCH better at games.

The ultimate finger gun finish. 

I actually expect Sexton to not choke. He'll win, Plessinger and J Cooper will take 2nd and 3rd in some order, and Webb will have an easy time holding down 4th for the championship. 

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5/9/2025 8:44am

Sexton isnt going to try anything "goofy." He's going to win while Coop takes 2nd and its going to be a boring 450 main

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If Chase starts playing  games, i think Cooper  will squirt past and win.  Webb is MUCH better at games.

Falcon wrote:
The ultimate finger gun finish. I actually expect Sexton to not choke. He'll win, Plessinger and J Cooper will take 2nd and 3rd in some order, and...

The ultimate finger gun finish. 

I actually expect Sexton to not choke. He'll win, Plessinger and J Cooper will take 2nd and 3rd in some order, and Webb will have an easy time holding down 4th for the championship. 

J Coop won’t finish in front of Webb, otherwise I think you’ve got it right. Sexton, Plessinger, Webb, J Coop, Malcolm for top 5. 

If Webb has some kind of problem, I bet we see J Coop doing gymnastics to get Webb in front of him. He knows who signs the checks..

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