Points as they run sh!tshow

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Edited Date/Time 9/21/2025 2:24am

Coming in to the race, ok Joe just needs 4th to win, then it’s 3rd..  and then Hammaker is suddenly looking like he could win but wasn’t even spoken about.

The points as they run were not the actual overall points with the 3x

Seems like the broadcast had no idea where everyone needed to finish.

While the the triple points makes for exciting racing, it’s fucking ridiculous..

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Coming in to the race, ok Joe just needs 4th to win, then it’s 3rd..  and then Hammaker is suddenly looking like he could win but...

Coming in to the race, ok Joe just needs 4th to win, then it’s 3rd..  and then Hammaker is suddenly looking like he could win but wasn’t even spoken about.

The points as they run were not the actual overall points with the 3x

Seems like the broadcast had no idea where everyone needed to finish.

While the the triple points makes for exciting racing, it’s fucking ridiculous..

Agreed we all follow the sport more closely than 99% of fans and if we’re saying it’s hard to follow, it’s hard to follow.


At one point one of the guys was 22 points down, makes one pass and has the lead? How what? And what’s the Olympic scoring got to do with anything? Why not pay points per moto already?


It’s fucking chaotic. What Motorsports series uses Olympic scoring for anything? Motogp? Mxgp? F1? NASCAR? Rally? Any top 5 Motorsport series? Just us? Cool.

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9/21/2025 4:33am

I don't know who was doing the calculations, but the math was off.

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Coming in to the race, ok Joe just needs 4th to win, then it’s 3rd..  and then Hammaker is suddenly looking like he could win but...

Coming in to the race, ok Joe just needs 4th to win, then it’s 3rd..  and then Hammaker is suddenly looking like he could win but wasn’t even spoken about.

The points as they run were not the actual overall points with the 3x

Seems like the broadcast had no idea where everyone needed to finish.

While the the triple points makes for exciting racing, it’s fucking ridiculous..

30minmotos wrote:
Agreed we all follow the sport more closely than 99% of fans and if we’re saying it’s hard to follow, it’s hard to follow.At one point...

Agreed we all follow the sport more closely than 99% of fans and if we’re saying it’s hard to follow, it’s hard to follow.


At one point one of the guys was 22 points down, makes one pass and has the lead? How what? And what’s the Olympic scoring got to do with anything? Why not pay points per moto already?


It’s fucking chaotic. What Motorsports series uses Olympic scoring for anything? Motogp? Mxgp? F1? NASCAR? Rally? Any top 5 Motorsport series? Just us? Cool.

Not just that but Olympic scoring to determine an overall that the points are then decided from..

 

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9/21/2025 7:30am

Yea all night long they were saying things that made absolutely no sense lol. 

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It made sense to me. Remember that the triple points make for some interesting point swings when championship contenders pass each other. You go from 2nd to 1st and gain 9 points while the other guy loses 9 points. That's 18 points different in the over/under stat they were displaying.

Also, Jo only needed 4th to beat Haiden but he needed 3rd if Hammaker won the 2nd moto; nobody was focused on that until it became a real possibility.

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Glad I’m not the only one who was confused all night. 

If understand correctly, overall is olympic scoring with second moto tie breaker. Points then issued for overall.

I could have used this. 

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Falcon wrote:
It made sense to me. Remember that the triple points make for some interesting point swings when championship contenders pass each other. You go from 2nd...

It made sense to me. Remember that the triple points make for some interesting point swings when championship contenders pass each other. You go from 2nd to 1st and gain 9 points while the other guy loses 9 points. That's 18 points different in the over/under stat they were displaying.

Also, Jo only needed 4th to beat Haiden but he needed 3rd if Hammaker won the 2nd moto; nobody was focused on that until it became a real possibility.

Yeah but at one point the pass was for 3rd to 2nd, points as they sat while he was in 3rd he was 22 points back, makes the pass to 2nd and now he’s 5 points ahead or some shit.


That’s what got confusing for me. Idgaf to learn or keep track of all of this when all of us already know how to track traditional points. But mixing Olympic with double and triple and quintuple duper bonus extra points is fucking aids.

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9/21/2025 10:09am

It gets complicated when distant 3rd in points is winning and 1 of the 3 in contention is a DNF and leader in points is working his way up toward the front.

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9/21/2025 10:14am

Do we really need a calculator and a slide rule just to have a feel for who is ahead?  Falcon may like this stuff, but half the fans and all the riders never finished high school.  Just use olympic scoring added together, lowest total wins.  We don't need multiple look up tables/dynamic points ratios. If its too confusing for the professional broadcaster, its too confusing for the audience.

 

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9/21/2025 11:35am

The points deal is absolutely stupid. 

9/21/2025 11:46am

The points system is stupid, and the wild card races are dumb when all but 1-2 guys get into the night show. 

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lumpy790 wrote:
It gets complicated when distant 3rd in points is winning and 1 of the 3 in contention is a DNF and leader in points is working...

It gets complicated when distant 3rd in points is winning and 1 of the 3 in contention is a DNF and leader in points is working his way up toward the front.

Well basic greetings and basic social interaction is too complicated for Ricky so yeah any points discussions are likely over his head.

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9/21/2025 12:20pm

shtshow with triple points that no one can follow. Maybe they should stick with double points if they even can handle that. 

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Coming in to the race, ok Joe just needs 4th to win, then it’s 3rd..  and then Hammaker is suddenly looking like he could win but...

Coming in to the race, ok Joe just needs 4th to win, then it’s 3rd..  and then Hammaker is suddenly looking like he could win but wasn’t even spoken about.

The points as they run were not the actual overall points with the 3x

Seems like the broadcast had no idea where everyone needed to finish.

While the the triple points makes for exciting racing, it’s fucking ridiculous..

I heard the possibility of Hammaker winning multiple times from the broadcast. 

Maybe actually listen next time 

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9/21/2025 1:05pm
Joey98 wrote:

I heard the possibility of Hammaker winning multiple times from the broadcast. 

Maybe actually listen next time 

Eh, when they were on the line weege said all shimoda needs is 4th if Deegan wins..

I had no idea hammaker was in the battle then all of a sudden he’s gonna win, then after Jo makes the move no one is talking about Seth anymore and he dropped way down..

So which one is it!

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9/21/2025 1:05pm

Get rid of this seperate series bullshit with its retarded points scheme and bring back the grand national championship. The guy who scored the most points from start to finish and these 3 whatever they are rounds is the overall champion. Give a big bonus so it incentivizes teams and riders to race the whole season.

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9/21/2025 3:23pm

Jcoop may have won that version of the title and that’s epic.

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9/21/2025 3:42pm

Agree 100%.  The point system is a gimmick and not worthy of 'Championship' competition.  

And Weigant needs to calm the f down, it is all just so fake.  It is right down there with Nascar/WWE fakeness.

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