Broadcast Needs A Lot of Work

A few things that weren't really mentioned:

- Beta with a great result

- Hunter's DNF

- Any other racing aside from either Roczen, or the top 3.

Crossing my fingers for RC to get the boot. Great enthusiasm, but can't call a race to save himself nor provide technical insights.

If you watch other broadcasts like F1, MotoGP, Tennis etc. the level of commentary is way better. And the broadcasts too seem to capture ALL the key moments.

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My second consecutive muted race. Not missing a thing and wish I did it sooner! Last night I selected April Wine as my background noise 🙂

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3/3/2024 3:57pm Edited Date/Time 3/3/2024 3:58pm

My wife is a casual fan of sx and wondered why do they always talk so much about everything but what’s on the screen.  Send it to Will for a 5 minute word salad on someone’s feelings, then the interviews during the race🫤

Will asked max if he was going to try and keep the red plate?! No he is going to sandbag lol🙄 

I remember being able to hear the bikes at Daytona and it was so great. Not this year, it takes away from the broadcast so much. 

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So an F1 quality broadcast on a Supercross budget?  Thats just not going to happen.  Those level broadcasts have multiple people behind the scenes following each driver and team each with a camera, along with stats guys, technical experts, and even weathermen.  With NBC they have enough people to follow the leaders and the next closest battle, thats about it.  Its not the people in the booths fault, they can only comment of what is being shown to them. 

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3/3/2024 4:17pm

When they are racing, PLEASE only talk about the race and only show the awful fluff pieces between motos!!! Wish they had a turn off commentators option.

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Nesta wrote:
When they are racing, PLEASE only talk about the race and only show the awful fluff pieces between motos!!! Wish they had a turn off commentators...

When they are racing, PLEASE only talk about the race and only show the awful fluff pieces between motos!!! Wish they had a turn off commentators option.

This exactly.......!  

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I felt it when RC he said “we can tell by Tomacs body English.” 

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It was infuriating last night. Missed all of Vialle catching the riders in front and making passes, then it’s like they react once it’s all done and go back to the replay, then to an interview with him. So many exciting and interesting things were missed, lines, mistakes, lap times etc. 
 

Drives me insane how little of the broadcast is about the live action as it happens. I wish we had an alternative commentary option, or could just hear the bikes with no commentary. Or just weege. 

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Same story week in/week out.

Fire Bondo

Get rid of Shrill C.

Stop interrupting the racing action with replays and stupid ass features/interviews.

 

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ILoveMoto wrote:

My second consecutive muted race. Not missing a thing and wish I did it sooner! Last night I selected April Wine as my background noise 🙂

"Sign of the gypsy queen"

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Honestly I think they try to do too much. It’s throw it down to the floor for this, Ricky what do you think about that, back to the floor. Let’s just call the racing? 

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Carmichael is terrible in the booth and he needs to go. If they really want to keep him, move him to the stadium where he can report from the track. He was better at that. Will never happen though. That year in MX (2021 I think, maybe 2022?) where they cycled through different color analysts like Glover and Stewart, it really showed the night and day difference from guys like them and RC. He was an amazing rider. The GOAT. That just doesn’t translate to being amazing in the booth. The amount of times last summer he said Jett needs to move over and let Sexton by was just pathetic and super cringey. Yeah he’s going to let the guy by when he hasn’t lost all year and has yet to even be passed. Okay Ricky.

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Man this place is unreal. Just shut up and enjoy the racing. holy fuck!

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So an F1 quality broadcast on a Supercross budget?  Thats just not going to happen.  Those level broadcasts have multiple people behind the scenes following each...

So an F1 quality broadcast on a Supercross budget?  Thats just not going to happen.  Those level broadcasts have multiple people behind the scenes following each driver and team each with a camera, along with stats guys, technical experts, and even weathermen.  With NBC they have enough people to follow the leaders and the next closest battle, thats about it.  Its not the people in the booths fault, they can only comment of what is being shown to them. 

In my view, the winning combo was Weege and Fro, which they have had before. What the broadcast team don't realise is LESS is more. No one wants to hear from riders; most of the time they say the same predictable stuff. We just want to see the action and replays when needed, with some easy listening. Weege, for example, is crazy GOOD at recalling results from races. Even Ralph was pretty good at adding insight. I have been watching SX and MX for 15 years and it is possibly the worst it has ever been in my view. Daytona I think was exceptionally bad such as-

- Ricky saying a shock was leaking oil when it is so unlikely in itself, and can't even really leak onto an exhaust, and if it did Tomac's bike would be practically unridable

- Repeated commentary about how mud is slippery - Who would have guessed?

- Poor insights into lines, passing, lap times etc. - JS7 chimed in with a few (e.g. Jett's mega line he had tried several times before the passes)

- No looking through the order and tracking progress of position changes

- No comment on Malcolm Stewart or Benny Bloss, earning some respectable rides

This isn't F1 level commentary; it is the minimum standard for anyone with a mic, screens and a live timing board. The only redeeming factor is the jokes JS7 seems to slip in there. I feel like with a bit of training, he would be a great analyst as he just has trouble saying stuff in a professional way (e.g. too many ums and awkward word choices).

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3/3/2024 9:41pm
A few things that weren't really mentioned: - Beta with a great result - Hunter's DNF - Any other racing aside from either Roczen, or the...

A few things that weren't really mentioned:

- Beta with a great result

- Hunter's DNF

- Any other racing aside from either Roczen, or the top 3.

Crossing my fingers for RC to get the boot. Great enthusiasm, but can't call a race to save himself nor provide technical insights.

If you watch other broadcasts like F1, MotoGP, Tennis etc. the level of commentary is way better. And the broadcasts too seem to capture ALL the key moments.

I have a strong feeling that AC replaces RC when AC retires. Oh wait, that may not happen because ricky is the GOAT. He is the GOAT ON THE TRACK, not the broadcast booth.

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3/3/2024 10:03pm Edited Date/Time 3/3/2024 10:05pm

I usually try to stay neutral on these … but, it was really bad yesterday, I may even be finally worn down and agree with the long winded Will complaints. Do that stuff while waiting for the next heat or the down time before LCQs but jesus not during the active racing! I kept looking at the Hunter DNF on the screen and saying out loud, So what happened to hunter, you know the Other HRC rider!!! The constant tossing back and forth to everyone was confusing at best and just plain amateurish in reality. 

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3/3/2024 10:15pm

RC out, Dbo360 in.

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3/3/2024 10:20pm

Another broadcast thread 😮‍💨🥴

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Lower your expectations. There’s no reason professional dirt bike racing should be compared to the likes of F1. SX is smaller than dog shows in viewership, and on top of that, it is not Feld’s top priority for product development. They put more money (and effort) into their musicals. As long as Feld runs Supercross, the broadcast will be mediocre. They are not a racing organization, they’re an entertainment company. Feld says profit first, entertainment second, racing third. 

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3/3/2024 10:32pm

I wonder if the A.I. tech is there yet to call a live sporting event? That would be great

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At this point I just mute it and listen to Free Bird three times.

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MX Guy wrote:
Lower your expectations. There’s no reason professional dirt bike racing should be compared to the likes of F1. SX is smaller than dog shows in viewership...

Lower your expectations. There’s no reason professional dirt bike racing should be compared to the likes of F1. SX is smaller than dog shows in viewership, and on top of that, it is not Feld’s top priority for product development. They put more money (and effort) into their musicals. As long as Feld runs Supercross, the broadcast will be mediocre. They are not a racing organization, they’re an entertainment company. Feld says profit first, entertainment second, racing third. 

But I think it’s the fact they are trying too hard. If mediocre is just one or 2 guys in the booth talking about what’s on the track they have nailed it. 
 

I think they are overlooking the fact everyone has a smart phone in their hand. We can google about a rider if we are interested, look on their socials and get a gauge for them. We don’t need a few minute spiel in the middle of the race. Or as stated previously, a completely uninteresting interview from the rider mid race. 
 

If they can give us something new like Sexton is running KYB’s for Daytona, shit then I’m interested. 

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Yes I mute half of the race as its so painful. Weege is great and JS7 too. Maybe add Brayton and move RC on. Will is painful and the camera work is terrible. They miss most passes and the crowds react and the commentators are guessing whats going on. Muting is more next step.

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Listening to RC on pulp last week was like listening to a totally different guy. His knowledge and insight into the sport is incredible and he seems like a genuinely good dude. I also realized that either he gets incredibly nervous on the broadcast or he’s afraid to just be himself.  Maybe the production team puts him in a box I don’t know. It’s a shame because on Saturday evening’s he’s just terrible sounding. I also do agree with the fact they’re trying to do too much. Someone’s always blabbering about something not related to the actual race. I may try the mute thing this weekend. 

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They are filling actual race with content they could give between motos. They should stick what happening in race and keep eye on laptimes whos hot or coming up. Track side comments should be only 5 secs if something happening in pits or something not long annoying talk about something that is not happening at race. 

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So an F1 quality broadcast on a Supercross budget?  Thats just not going to happen.  Those level broadcasts have multiple people behind the scenes following each...

So an F1 quality broadcast on a Supercross budget?  Thats just not going to happen.  Those level broadcasts have multiple people behind the scenes following each driver and team each with a camera, along with stats guys, technical experts, and even weathermen.  With NBC they have enough people to follow the leaders and the next closest battle, thats about it.  Its not the people in the booths fault, they can only comment of what is being shown to them. 

Yes it can. 

Show the fucking race and ditch the bollocks

There are live streams that are better. Way better. 

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Are Jim Lampley and Sam Posey still alive? Maybe give them a call.  And Diana Nyad .

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A few things that weren't really mentioned: - Beta with a great result - Hunter's DNF - Any other racing aside from either Roczen, or the...

A few things that weren't really mentioned:

- Beta with a great result

- Hunter's DNF

- Any other racing aside from either Roczen, or the top 3.

Crossing my fingers for RC to get the boot. Great enthusiasm, but can't call a race to save himself nor provide technical insights.

If you watch other broadcasts like F1, MotoGP, Tennis etc. the level of commentary is way better. And the broadcasts too seem to capture ALL the key moments.

Im curious about what you think about Weege’s performance since you mention F1 and Moto gp.

i follow those sports to and i often say that the sx broadcast is crap compared to real proffesional racing.

But people in here seems to love Weege job in the booth and i can’t wrap my head around why?. Can someone please explain exactly what he is doing that is so good?.

I don’t know if it is a cultural thing or a american thing that you only can comment on what’s in front of you?.

As a fan of any motorsport i want to know what i can’t see with my own eyes. I don’t need the obvious stated the whole race.
I’d rather get the information that a guy outside the camera just gained 2 seconds on the next guy and within 1 lap we might have a pass on our hands.

Paul Malin manage to do that by him self in the Gp’s and here in AMA sx and Mx you have 2-3 guys that just ramble about what’s going on in front of our eyes and never speak about the things we don’t see.

Malin often say during the brodcast that the crew should switch to another group of riders because he can see in sector times that there is another fight going on if the camera crew have missed that.

RC get a shit ton of crap for his work on the broadcast but as i said, could someone tell me what Weege is so good at regarding his work? Not that he lives moto bs for RC lives moto to and get heat for his job.

Downvote all you want but please explain what i asked about Weege.

 

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3/4/2024 6:23am

bring back Denny and i thought Glover had great insight when he called a race....Mix it up with different guys and keep the best ones....

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I would like it if they didn't sit and try to pontificate on some small detail and GET INTO THE RACE. It's so lame when RC or Bubba are mid blabber because they cant concisely state their point and there's a pass being made or crash and there's no energy or reaction. Let Weege call the race, get excited about it (not in a corny way like Ralph...), make it enjoyable for the fans to get into it. 

 

I feel like they're trying to educate the consumer, or "well it's RC and Bubba they have alot of knowlege to say"...which is true but not at the expense of the product. Allow them to have commentary when useful, but be quick...

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