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Are the yellow track markers just a suggested route? Looks like some guys were going inside them to a smoother line. I know i would be too. that track seemed rougher than i recall in a lot of years.
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It depends on who's watching.
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I believe DC has said before on here that the yellow markers are a mere suggestion but should be followed to as best of the riders ability. We see riders go outside of them all the time.

Seriously, if you went to all 12 nationals, you’d probably see every single rider do it several times on race day.
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Who's going to be the first rider impaled to death by one when they crash?
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Texas Built wrote:
Who's going to be the first rider impaled to death by one when they crash?
That flimsy plastic impaling someone?
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Texas Built wrote:
Who's going to be the first rider impaled to death by one when they crash?
The first rider that's made out of cheeze wizz
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lostboy819 6/29/2019 10:10pm
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Texas Built wrote:
Who's going to be the first rider impaled to death by one when they crash?
I guess you have never seen one up close or touched one, they are made out of a soft rubber like material that is about as dangerous as a rubber spatula.
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Texas Built wrote:
Who's going to be the first rider impaled to death by one when they crash?
"Bring back the wooden stake"!
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Dirtydeeds 6/29/2019 11:35pm
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Texas Built wrote:
Who's going to be the first rider impaled to death by one when they crash?
That was a non issue today, but did you see all the lightning between 1-7? That was a way bigger issue.
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Texas Built wrote:
Who's going to be the first rider impaled to death by one when they crash?
lostboy819 wrote:
I guess you have never seen one up close or touched one, they are made out of a soft rubber like material that is about as...
I guess you have never seen one up close or touched one, they are made out of a soft rubber like material that is about as dangerous as a rubber spatula.
I guess you haven't either because they are most definitely not made of a rubber like material. They are plastic with a thin area that's cut out to allow for flex. They are actually quite sturdy. Without the flex, or if someone put one in the wrong way, it has the potential to be an issue, albeit quite small.
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tcallahan707 wrote:
I guess you haven't either because they are most definitely not made of a rubber like material. They are plastic with a thin area that's cut...
I guess you haven't either because they are most definitely not made of a rubber like material. They are plastic with a thin area that's cut out to allow for flex. They are actually quite sturdy. Without the flex, or if someone put one in the wrong way, it has the potential to be an issue, albeit quite small.
I slipped and fell and it went right up there. One in a million shot doc, you have to trust me!
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lostboy819 6/30/2019 1:13am
6/30/2019 1:13am Edited Date/Time 6/30/2019 1:27am
Texas Built wrote:
Who's going to be the first rider impaled to death by one when they crash?
lostboy819 wrote:
I guess you have never seen one up close or touched one, they are made out of a soft rubber like material that is about as...
I guess you have never seen one up close or touched one, they are made out of a soft rubber like material that is about as dangerous as a rubber spatula.
tcallahan707 wrote:
I guess you haven't either because they are most definitely not made of a rubber like material. They are plastic with a thin area that's cut...
I guess you haven't either because they are most definitely not made of a rubber like material. They are plastic with a thin area that's cut out to allow for flex. They are actually quite sturdy. Without the flex, or if someone put one in the wrong way, it has the potential to be an issue, albeit quite small.
Well hell I only put about 500 of them in at Lakewood so what would I know. You can fold them back and forth. They are not the hard plastic like everyone thinks and are pretty flexible. "Soft rubber like material" like I said may not be the best description but they are no danger to impale anyone and the only hard plastic part is the spike at the bottom to stick them in the ground., and you need to push it in at the spike because it will fold over if you try to push it in with the yellow part.

A better description is Soft flexible plastic like in number plates and or MX fenders etc

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Can-we-eliminate-yellow-…

https://www.amazon.com/ACERBIS-Acerbis-Track-Markers-2320829999/dp/B009…

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lostboy819 wrote:
I guess you have never seen one up close or touched one, they are made out of a soft rubber like material that is about as...
I guess you have never seen one up close or touched one, they are made out of a soft rubber like material that is about as dangerous as a rubber spatula.
tcallahan707 wrote:
I guess you haven't either because they are most definitely not made of a rubber like material. They are plastic with a thin area that's cut...
I guess you haven't either because they are most definitely not made of a rubber like material. They are plastic with a thin area that's cut out to allow for flex. They are actually quite sturdy. Without the flex, or if someone put one in the wrong way, it has the potential to be an issue, albeit quite small.
lostboy819 wrote:
Well hell I only put about 500 of them in at Lakewood so what would I know. You can fold them back and forth. They are...
Well hell I only put about 500 of them in at Lakewood so what would I know. You can fold them back and forth. They are not the hard plastic like everyone thinks and are pretty flexible. "Soft rubber like material" like I said may not be the best description but they are no danger to impale anyone and the only hard plastic part is the spike at the bottom to stick them in the ground., and you need to push it in at the spike because it will fold over if you try to push it in with the yellow part.

A better description is Soft flexible plastic like in number plates and or MX fenders etc

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Can-we-eliminate-yellow-…

https://www.amazon.com/ACERBIS-Acerbis-Track-Markers-2320829999/dp/B009…

That is a much better description, however, I think our definition of flexible is different. I wouldn't want to land straight on top of the rear fender of a Honda. Impale, no. Damage, potentially. The track marker is basically a fork guard with a cut out.

Ps. I was mostly busting your balls with your own comment because I felt rubber was quite misleading. Hell, I only used to run things at Lakewood but what would I know Wink
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Texas Built wrote:
Who's going to be the first rider impaled to death by one when they crash?
lostboy819 wrote:
I guess you have never seen one up close or touched one, they are made out of a soft rubber like material that is about as...
I guess you have never seen one up close or touched one, they are made out of a soft rubber like material that is about as dangerous as a rubber spatula.
tcallahan707 wrote:
I guess you haven't either because they are most definitely not made of a rubber like material. They are plastic with a thin area that's cut...
I guess you haven't either because they are most definitely not made of a rubber like material. They are plastic with a thin area that's cut out to allow for flex. They are actually quite sturdy. Without the flex, or if someone put one in the wrong way, it has the potential to be an issue, albeit quite small.
I've spent more time around those yellow markers than anyone and I can assure you that the only way it could be a potential issue, even a quite small one, is if you tried to swallow one. They are about as sturdy as those orange pieces of Hot Wheels track.

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One additional note...the black plastic base? That's hard plastic. The yellow upper? Not so much.


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Texas Built wrote:
Who's going to be the first rider impaled to death by one when they crash?
You might even say it could potentially decapitate someone to death.
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I think it would hurt more if you got smacked with a foam pool noodle.
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GuyB wrote:
One additional note...the black plastic base? That's hard plastic. The yellow upper? Not so much. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/06/30/357328/s1200_063019southwickracing4110.jpg[/img]
One additional note...the black plastic base? That's hard plastic. The yellow upper? Not so much.


And thanks for giving me a hand on mid-motor clean-up yesterday Guy B!

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lostboy819 wrote:
I guess you have never seen one up close or touched one, they are made out of a soft rubber like material that is about as...
I guess you have never seen one up close or touched one, they are made out of a soft rubber like material that is about as dangerous as a rubber spatula.
tcallahan707 wrote:
I guess you haven't either because they are most definitely not made of a rubber like material. They are plastic with a thin area that's cut...
I guess you haven't either because they are most definitely not made of a rubber like material. They are plastic with a thin area that's cut out to allow for flex. They are actually quite sturdy. Without the flex, or if someone put one in the wrong way, it has the potential to be an issue, albeit quite small.
DC wrote:
I've spent more time around those yellow markers than anyone and I can assure you that the only way it could be a potential issue, even...
I've spent more time around those yellow markers than anyone and I can assure you that the only way it could be a potential issue, even a quite small one, is if you tried to swallow one. They are about as sturdy as those orange pieces of Hot Wheels track.

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But what about Marvin always cutting inside the markers and riding the smooth lines ?
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tcallahan707 wrote:
I guess you haven't either because they are most definitely not made of a rubber like material. They are plastic with a thin area that's cut...
I guess you haven't either because they are most definitely not made of a rubber like material. They are plastic with a thin area that's cut out to allow for flex. They are actually quite sturdy. Without the flex, or if someone put one in the wrong way, it has the potential to be an issue, albeit quite small.
DC wrote:
I've spent more time around those yellow markers than anyone and I can assure you that the only way it could be a potential issue, even...
I've spent more time around those yellow markers than anyone and I can assure you that the only way it could be a potential issue, even a quite small one, is if you tried to swallow one. They are about as sturdy as those orange pieces of Hot Wheels track.

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NvHermit wrote:
But what about Marvin always cutting inside the markers and riding the smooth lines ?
Unfortunately, it happens every year to some extent at Southwick, as the soil is very soft, and without digging the track down into the ground (kind of like Washougal) it's very hard to hold them strictly between the yellow markers. I counted a bunch of guys going off here and there, not just Marvin. We will be looking into fixes this week.

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DC wrote:
I've spent more time around those yellow markers than anyone and I can assure you that the only way it could be a potential issue, even...
I've spent more time around those yellow markers than anyone and I can assure you that the only way it could be a potential issue, even a quite small one, is if you tried to swallow one. They are about as sturdy as those orange pieces of Hot Wheels track.

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NvHermit wrote:
But what about Marvin always cutting inside the markers and riding the smooth lines ?
DC wrote:
Unfortunately, it happens every year to some extent at Southwick, as the soil is very soft, and without digging the track down into the ground (kind...
Unfortunately, it happens every year to some extent at Southwick, as the soil is very soft, and without digging the track down into the ground (kind of like Washougal) it's very hard to hold them strictly between the yellow markers. I counted a bunch of guys going off here and there, not just Marvin. We will be looking into fixes this week.

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Penalty’s or fixes?
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Harry Backmon 6/30/2019 8:46am
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Texas Built wrote:
Who's going to be the first rider impaled to death by one when they crash?
Dirtydeeds wrote:
That was a non issue today, but did you see all the lightning between 1-7? That was a way bigger issue.
Exactly! Deeds gets it. I heard there were people being electrocuted all over the facility between 1 and 7. Those track markers ain't got nothing for that biblical lightning.
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NvHermit wrote:
But what about Marvin always cutting inside the markers and riding the smooth lines ?
DC wrote:
Unfortunately, it happens every year to some extent at Southwick, as the soil is very soft, and without digging the track down into the ground (kind...
Unfortunately, it happens every year to some extent at Southwick, as the soil is very soft, and without digging the track down into the ground (kind of like Washougal) it's very hard to hold them strictly between the yellow markers. I counted a bunch of guys going off here and there, not just Marvin. We will be looking into fixes this week.

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kkawboy14 wrote:
Penalty’s or fixes?
It is hard for me to understand this way of thinking.
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DC wrote:
Unfortunately, it happens every year to some extent at Southwick, as the soil is very soft, and without digging the track down into the ground (kind...
Unfortunately, it happens every year to some extent at Southwick, as the soil is very soft, and without digging the track down into the ground (kind of like Washougal) it's very hard to hold them strictly between the yellow markers. I counted a bunch of guys going off here and there, not just Marvin. We will be looking into fixes this week.

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kkawboy14 wrote:
Penalty’s or fixes?
Kawi15 wrote:
It is hard for me to understand this way of thinking.
You don’t like people that ask questions for someone to clarify their statements?

It is hard for me to understand this way of thinking!
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tcallahan707 wrote:
I guess you haven't either because they are most definitely not made of a rubber like material. They are plastic with a thin area that's cut...
I guess you haven't either because they are most definitely not made of a rubber like material. They are plastic with a thin area that's cut out to allow for flex. They are actually quite sturdy. Without the flex, or if someone put one in the wrong way, it has the potential to be an issue, albeit quite small.
DC wrote:
I've spent more time around those yellow markers than anyone and I can assure you that the only way it could be a potential issue, even...
I've spent more time around those yellow markers than anyone and I can assure you that the only way it could be a potential issue, even a quite small one, is if you tried to swallow one. They are about as sturdy as those orange pieces of Hot Wheels track.

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NvHermit wrote:
But what about Marvin always cutting inside the markers and riding the smooth lines ?
As long as he doesn't gain advantage and gets on in next safest spot no rule is broken....
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Marvin is going to best remembered for how many times He cuts the track over the course of a season.

The guy does it over and over, I'm sure others do it to but Marvin is very noticeable
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DC wrote:
I've spent more time around those yellow markers than anyone and I can assure you that the only way it could be a potential issue, even...
I've spent more time around those yellow markers than anyone and I can assure you that the only way it could be a potential issue, even a quite small one, is if you tried to swallow one. They are about as sturdy as those orange pieces of Hot Wheels track.

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NvHermit wrote:
But what about Marvin always cutting inside the markers and riding the smooth lines ?
yak651 wrote:
As long as he doesn't gain advantage and gets on in next safest spot no rule is broken....
They’re talking about an intentional line that Marvin, and others, were taking that went in-side a marker or two. In other places there were lines that took riders outside the markers.
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freebroctickle 6/30/2019 9:30am
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I love how this sport involves 40 odd dudes railing motorcycles at top speed, in close proximity, on a rutted, rocky track... yet freak track marker impalement is apparently a top concern for some Laughing
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had2comment 6/30/2019 9:33am
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Cue JT I want his opinion...
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NvHermit wrote:
But what about Marvin always cutting inside the markers and riding the smooth lines ?
yak651 wrote:
As long as he doesn't gain advantage and gets on in next safest spot no rule is broken....
TeamGreen wrote:
They’re talking about an intentional line that Marvin, and others, were taking that went in-side a marker or two. In other places there were lines that...
They’re talking about an intentional line that Marvin, and others, were taking that went in-side a marker or two. In other places there were lines that took riders outside the markers.
Yeah I know, guess the sarcasm didn't come across...saying that, it's all connected with vague rules that you can't truly enforces because they are open to interpretation
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had2comment wrote:
Cue JT I want his opinion...
Yeah maybe one of DCs family members got a picture of it!

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