What is the solution?

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Edited Date/Time 8/18/2014 12:22pm
Several of us, myself included, find ourselves complaining about 5 times per year on average about track cutting and gaining an unfair advantage. None of us, however, have came up with a solution to it. What should be done? What is the best solution taking into consideration rider safety and fairness to all riders? Do they have it the best it can be right now? I find that hard to believe, but maybe they do if none of us can come up with something better. I just feel like something needs to be changed or else it will get more ridiculous than it already is.
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Build a moat around the track

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ATKpilot99 8/17/2014 12:45pm
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Referring to going off the track going balls out on the side of the track then re entering ?
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scooter5002 8/17/2014 12:47pm
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CR250Rider wrote:
Build a moat around the track

Full of angry, hungry alligators.
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CR250Rider wrote:
Build a moat around the track

YEP! Fill it with gators and sharks with freakin lazer beams!!

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CR250Rider wrote:
Build a moat around the track

scooter5002 wrote:
Full of angry, hungry alligators.
You bastard scoot! You pulled the holeshot on me haha!
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CR250Rider wrote:
Build a moat around the track

scooter5002 wrote:
Full of angry, hungry alligators.
jeffro503 wrote:
You bastard scoot! You pulled the holeshot on me haha!
Fill it with members from the forum. Laughing
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Sharks with lasers

Fred Boss Mx Dion 8/17/2014 12:50pm
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Land Mines! Same way I would handle our southern border.
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TDeath21 wrote:
Several of us, myself included, find ourselves complaining about 5 times per year on average about track cutting and gaining an unfair advantage. None of us...
Several of us, myself included, find ourselves complaining about 5 times per year on average about track cutting and gaining an unfair advantage. None of us, however, have came up with a solution to it. What should be done? What is the best solution taking into consideration rider safety and fairness to all riders? Do they have it the best it can be right now? I find that hard to believe, but maybe they do if none of us can come up with something better. I just feel like something needs to be changed or else it will get more ridiculous than it already is.
Quite a few people have come up with a solution. Actual enforcement of the rules that are already in place and they would stop cutting.
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Actual enforcement of the rules, and state that they HAVE TO re-enter where they went off, AND in a safe manner. That may mean waiting for 20 bikes to pass. If they don't, the penalty should be a one lap penalty. Make it severe and they won't do it.
You should be penalized for going off the track.
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DP#201 8/17/2014 12:54pm
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It should be simple.. If you gain advantage compared to rejoining the track where you exited, you shouldt be penalized.. maybe XX sec to your finish time, or stop and go for XXsec, or maybe even DQ.. whatever that seems fair,
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ATKpilot99 8/17/2014 1:02pm
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danman wrote:
Actual enforcement of the rules, and state that they HAVE TO re-enter where they went off, AND in a safe manner. That may mean waiting for...
Actual enforcement of the rules, and state that they HAVE TO re-enter where they went off, AND in a safe manner. That may mean waiting for 20 bikes to pass. If they don't, the penalty should be a one lap penalty. Make it severe and they won't do it.
You should be penalized for going off the track.
But the rule is to re enter at the next safest spot not where you left the track. Maybe the solution is the rider must come to a complete stop then cannot leave 1st gear until they return to the track.
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GuyB 8/17/2014 1:05pm
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Barbed wire. Duh.
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ATKpilot99 8/17/2014 1:09pm
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GuyB wrote:
Barbed wire. Duh.
Funny but I think it's a legitimate complaint. Being able to go balls out on a fire road next to the track skipping obstacles is crap.
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GuyB 8/17/2014 1:12pm
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
Funny but I think it's a legitimate complaint. Being able to go balls out on a fire road next to the track skipping obstacles is crap.
I dunno, it was kinda fun dodging Ryan and others as they went by.
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Gringoe 8/17/2014 1:14pm
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
Funny but I think it's a legitimate complaint. Being able to go balls out on a fire road next to the track skipping obstacles is crap.
GuyB wrote:
I dunno, it was kinda fun dodging Ryan and others as they went by.
...? Hopefully sarcasm? But I don't think it is
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zippy895 8/17/2014 1:16pm
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GuyB wrote:
Barbed wire. Duh.
jerk,i was going to post that after reading all the comments.haha
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GuyB 8/17/2014 1:17pm
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Gringoe wrote:
...? Hopefully sarcasm? But I don't think it is
You would be correct. I got directed to the inside of the first turn. The "safe" side. It was a surprise to have a parade of riders come through.

Carrie Coombs was up at the top of the first turn directing riders back onto the track.

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TDeath21 wrote:
Several of us, myself included, find ourselves complaining about 5 times per year on average about track cutting and gaining an unfair advantage. None of us...
Several of us, myself included, find ourselves complaining about 5 times per year on average about track cutting and gaining an unfair advantage. None of us, however, have came up with a solution to it. What should be done? What is the best solution taking into consideration rider safety and fairness to all riders? Do they have it the best it can be right now? I find that hard to believe, but maybe they do if none of us can come up with something better. I just feel like something needs to be changed or else it will get more ridiculous than it already is.
Berm wrote:
Quite a few people have come up with a solution. Actual enforcement of the rules that are already in place and they would stop cutting.
Crazy talk I tell you, that's crazy talk.
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light the edges of the track on fire
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Gringoe 8/17/2014 1:22pm
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Gringoe wrote:
...? Hopefully sarcasm? But I don't think it is
GuyB wrote:
You would be correct. I got directed to the inside of the first turn. The "safe" side. It was a surprise to have a parade of...
You would be correct. I got directed to the inside of the first turn. The "safe" side. It was a surprise to have a parade of riders come through.

Carrie Coombs was up at the top of the first turn directing riders back onto the track.
I think she missed dungey
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GuyB 8/17/2014 1:24pm
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Gringoe wrote:
I think she missed dungey
She may have. It was a surprise to all of us.
Fred Boss Mx Dion 8/17/2014 1:27pm
8/17/2014 1:27pm
I got it....Dead engine, straddling the front fender green flag....That will thin those varmints out!
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GuyB 8/17/2014 1:33pm
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Fred Boss Mx Dion wrote:
I got it....Dead engine, straddling the front fender green flag....That will thin those varmints out!
What was weird was how spread out the pack already was by the time they reached the first turn in 450 moto one.
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zippy895 8/17/2014 1:33pm
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truly, a 6 ft wall of dirt in suspect area should do the trick. photogs can be aloud on top of wall.
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GuyB 8/17/2014 1:38pm
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zippy895 wrote:
truly, a 6 ft wall of dirt in suspect area should do the trick. photogs can be aloud on top of wall.
In Indiana it would have become a three-foot pile of soup.

Here's what my shoes looked after traversing some of the muddier areas while shooting yesterday...



Fred Boss Mx Dion 8/17/2014 1:42pm
8/17/2014 1:42pm
At Helvetia Park, in Sacramento, our 1st turn was an oak tree with an old mattress tied to it.
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Fred Boss Mx Dion wrote:
I got it....Dead engine, straddling the front fender green flag....That will thin those varmints out!
GuyB wrote:
What was weird was how spread out the pack already was by the time they reached the first turn in 450 moto one.
The spray of mud from the front line covered the lens and they lost vision. I remember that being the weirdest feeling,going totally dark inside the goggle and trying to pull the knob with the gas still on.

It amazed me how many had google issues,the most important thing in a mud race. Preparing rolloffs for water is a art form,the film will stick to the lens and leave you screwed.
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GuyB 8/17/2014 1:53pm
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Fred Boss Mx Dion wrote:
At Helvetia Park, in Sacramento, our 1st turn was an oak tree with an old mattress tied to it.
Did it spawn a forum thread suggesting that the trees were too close to the track, and needed to be cut down? Wink
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Outsider 8/17/2014 1:55pm
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First gear while off the track.

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