Webb's problems

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Edited Date/Time 9/7/2017 3:08am
Mathes alluded to Cooper not being focused and there being trouble within his inner circle. This is not good nor is it he hurt himself at the gp. For him to be "the next guy" it's not looking good. Anyone have any more info?
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akillerwombat 9/5/2017 9:23am
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When you struggle as much as his 'inner circle' has this year – I don't doubt they have trouble focusing.
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All the JS7 fans jumped on the Coop Caboose. Extra weight made the Webb train go off the rails.
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rmoto003 9/5/2017 9:36am
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I wonder if it has anything to do with his bike being completely different than the rest of the bikes out there....

Nah lmao Im just a hater
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Matthes also noted, I'm paraphrasing, that he would be the 700th young man to get some money and lose focus on the job at hand. If you count other sports, the number gets really big. Sounds like Cooper needs some adult leadership to keep him on track. No shame in that.

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TDeath21 9/5/2017 10:14am
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It really doesn't make sense. It has to be something like that with himself or inner circle. He's ridden a 450 before and been battling for wins, so I know that can't be it. Maybe you can argue the grind of the entire 450 season, but injuries in a weird way kind of alleviated that.
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twotwosix 9/5/2017 10:14am
9/5/2017 10:14am Edited Date/Time 9/5/2017 10:15am
Becoming a millionaire at 21 can have an affect on a kid.

He literally got his ass kicked all year. Let him get healthy and chew on what transpired this year. He will be ready to go come A1. I expect to see a different Webb in 2018. He's got 'it'. He just needs to pull it out of himself.

Side note, I'd like to him get a coach who will tell him what is what like Mrs Carmichael or Aldon. It would most likely help with the 450 transition.
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twotwosix 9/5/2017 10:17am
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TDeath21 wrote:
It really doesn't make sense. It has to be something like that with himself or inner circle. He's ridden a 450 before and been battling for...
It really doesn't make sense. It has to be something like that with himself or inner circle. He's ridden a 450 before and been battling for wins, so I know that can't be it. Maybe you can argue the grind of the entire 450 season, but injuries in a weird way kind of alleviated that.
It happens. We saw it with Baggett. The transition is harder on some than others. Baggett and Webb are two of the toughest guys out there, but once their confidence took a hit during their rookie 450 seasons, it was over.
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MXD 9/5/2017 10:31am
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His career path isn't unlike most others who came before him. He'll be fine.
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Jeff alessi 9/5/2017 11:10am
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I'm sure none of his sponsors are complaining, he did lose a little value but like others said 18 will more then likely be the beginning of his 450 career closer to the front or at the front. That kid won't let it get worse, he knows the off-season was and is his only chance to get back to his normal race ready self. Something was up this year, injuries certainly didn't help. Hopefully that wrist is going to heal right.
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TXDirt 9/5/2017 11:38am
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Rookie season, a few nics and bumps here and there. Struggled to get completely comfortable on the bike.

I think he will be okay. Lets see what 2018 brings.
RichardLoots 9/5/2017 11:45am
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Confidence is a big must have in this stage of his career , with the injuries and possible bike setup problems and resulting lack in results must have lost that for a big part , together with injuries etc is a difficult rookie year for Webb
i hope the 18 yamaha and Webb get a click , he is a great talent and can do a lot better on a 450 as he already has shown in MXON and USGP
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Motofinne 9/5/2017 11:52am
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Something went seriously wrong in the offseason to A1. We have all seen that he has the talent and speed on the 450(USGP, MXdN).

We heard early rumors that he was relatively slow in the offseason and it showed. He has been mediocre except a few races.
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Camp332 9/5/2017 12:01pm
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What does "trouble within his inner circle" mean?

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Camp332 wrote:
What does "trouble within his inner circle" mean?

I don't know but if I was him I'd start with the space between my ears and go from there. If he don't get that right, nothing else really matters.
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F.B 9/5/2017 12:16pm
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I wonder who Matthes is referring to...WhistlingGrinning
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Camp332 9/5/2017 12:22pm
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Camp332 wrote:
What does "trouble within his inner circle" mean?

olds cool wrote:
I don't know but if I was him I'd start with the space between my ears and go from there. If he don't get that right...
I don't know but if I was him I'd start with the space between my ears and go from there. If he don't get that right, nothing else really matters.
It's an "inside job" Wink
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Camp332 wrote:
What does "trouble within his inner circle" mean?

olds cool wrote:
I don't know but if I was him I'd start with the space between my ears and go from there. If he don't get that right...
I don't know but if I was him I'd start with the space between my ears and go from there. If he don't get that right, nothing else really matters.
Camp332 wrote:
It's an "inside job" Wink
The CIA or the Russian ?

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wired4speed 9/5/2017 12:56pm
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He'll be fine...the jump for a rookie from 250f to 450f isn't as easy as it looks.Should have a solid 2018 season,
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PRM31 wrote:
Matthes also noted, I'm paraphrasing, that he would be the 700th young man to get some money and lose focus on the job at hand. If...
Matthes also noted, I'm paraphrasing, that he would be the 700th young man to get some money and lose focus on the job at hand. If you count other sports, the number gets really big. Sounds like Cooper needs some adult leadership to keep him on track. No shame in that.
What? He is an adult. As an adult you take responsibility for your screw ups. Or at least it is that way where I grew up.
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twotwosix 9/5/2017 1:21pm
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gt80rider wrote:
What? He is an adult. As an adult you take responsibility for your screw ups. Or at least it is that way where I grew up.
I get it man. I operate that way too, BUT.... You haven't been a millionaire professional athlete who travels most weekends of the year at age 20.
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peelout 9/5/2017 1:23pm
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Camp332 wrote:
What does "trouble within his inner circle" mean?

yada yada yada sloppy seconds
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PRM31 9/5/2017 1:24pm
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PRM31 wrote:
Matthes also noted, I'm paraphrasing, that he would be the 700th young man to get some money and lose focus on the job at hand. If...
Matthes also noted, I'm paraphrasing, that he would be the 700th young man to get some money and lose focus on the job at hand. If you count other sports, the number gets really big. Sounds like Cooper needs some adult leadership to keep him on track. No shame in that.
gt80rider wrote:
What? He is an adult. As an adult you take responsibility for your screw ups. Or at least it is that way where I grew up.
He's 21, yes an adult. My point is he needs someone to keep him focused. Not every 21 year old is ready to handle the responsibilities of making large sums of money and riding for a factory team, as witnessed by the large numbers of failures for reasons other than talent. In some situations, getting some assistance or having a mentor is the responsible thing to do. (Edit: Yes, I too believe he should be responsible, and accountable. I'm looking at how does he stop the slide, if there is one, and regain his performance level.)
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gt80rider wrote:
What? He is an adult. As an adult you take responsibility for your screw ups. Or at least it is that way where I grew up.
twotwosix wrote:
I get it man. I operate that way too, BUT.... You haven't been a millionaire professional athlete who travels most weekends of the year at age...
I get it man. I operate that way too, BUT.... You haven't been a millionaire professional athlete who travels most weekends of the year at age 20.
Big money, big responsibility. Big pressure.
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Flip109 9/5/2017 1:31pm
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Got damn little circles are always trouble!LaughingLaughing
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F.B 9/5/2017 1:35pm
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Flip109 wrote:
Got damn little circles are always trouble!LaughingLaughing
Har!
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APLMAN99 9/5/2017 2:11pm
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Maybe.........

........Webb isn't overly excited talking to Matthes and that translates into Matthes not knowing about his program, inner circle, etc.

I like most of Matthes' stuff, but he does tend to get a little bit down on the riders who don't seem to treat him as an equal part of the draw.
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OR Racer46 9/5/2017 2:29pm
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Camp332 wrote:
What does "trouble within his inner circle" mean?

peelout wrote:
yada yada yada sloppy seconds
Peely. Gets it

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