Smokin' Weed & Riding?

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11/14/2009 9:01am
Oldskool wrote:
This thread belongs in the Dumbgeon right along with the dumbfucks that think that smoking weed or doing any other illegal drugs are "cool" when riding...
This thread belongs in the Dumbgeon right along with the dumbfucks that think that smoking weed or doing any other illegal drugs are "cool" when riding or any other time for that matter.

Thanks assholes, I just had to "click" my 12 year old from this site because of your idiotic posts (you know who you are).

Some of us are trying to raise our motocross loving kids to respect themselves. It's obvious now why some of you have never accomplished shit, ever, in your lives. Fucking idiots!
Somebody give this a bong hit!!
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11/14/2009 9:02am
ogdeno wrote:
Weed may be cool & all but it started me on a one way trip to hell. Started smoking weed when I was 15 and crazy...
Weed may be cool & all but it started me on a one way trip to hell. Started smoking weed when I was 15 and crazy into mx now I'm a 31 yr old ex heroin addict on methadone. Drugs ruined my life. Making light of this shit ain't cool for us that are scraping ourselves off the bottom. Wouldn't reccomend it people. I'll readily admit I'm the weak &^%$ who took it to the next level though. Only just got a bike last year. This shit kept me off a bike for 15 yrs!!!
you ruined yer life...drugs did shit
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11/14/2009 9:02am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 6:56pm
I made the switch to O'DWEEDS.




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11/14/2009 9:07am
Oldskool wrote:
This thread belongs in the Dumbgeon right along with the dumbfucks that think that smoking weed or doing any other illegal drugs are "cool" when riding...
This thread belongs in the Dumbgeon right along with the dumbfucks that think that smoking weed or doing any other illegal drugs are "cool" when riding or any other time for that matter.

Thanks assholes, I just had to "click" my 12 year old from this site because of your idiotic posts (you know who you are).

Some of us are trying to raise our motocross loving kids to respect themselves. It's obvious now why some of you have never accomplished shit, ever, in your lives. Fucking idiots!
knobby101 wrote:
Somebody give this a bong hit!!
or 3....sheesh

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11/14/2009 9:18am
Breaker breaker, commander. This is rocketship 27. Aliens fucked with the carbonator in engine four. I'm gonna try and refuckulate it and land on Juniper. Hopefully they have some space-weed. Over.
11/14/2009 9:34am
Goon wrote:
Not to mention any names but... Johnny Marley (Cough Cough)
Why would you need to go and do something like that?
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11/14/2009 9:50am
Whoever rides for this Team Green should be banned from racing.
11/14/2009 10:00am
Oldskool wrote:
This thread belongs in the Dumbgeon right along with the dumbfucks that think that smoking weed or doing any other illegal drugs are "cool" when riding...
This thread belongs in the Dumbgeon right along with the dumbfucks that think that smoking weed or doing any other illegal drugs are "cool" when riding or any other time for that matter.

Thanks assholes, I just had to "click" my 12 year old from this site because of your idiotic posts (you know who you are).

Some of us are trying to raise our motocross loving kids to respect themselves. It's obvious now why some of you have never accomplished shit, ever, in your lives. Fucking idiots!
I don't approve of drugs, but seriously dude, you don't think your 12 yr old sees or hears this stuff anywhere other than here? Do you...
I don't approve of drugs, but seriously dude, you don't think your 12 yr old sees or hears this stuff anywhere other than here? Do you care if he cusses?
Oldskool wrote:
Of course I know that he sees and hears this stuff elsewhere. However, he is not hearing it from the people that we race with or...
Of course I know that he sees and hears this stuff elsewhere. However, he is not hearing it from the people that we race with or the racers that he looks up to.

Yes, I care if he cusses. But, I also know how 12 year old boys are and cussing will not kill him or ruin his life.

Can anyone with a brain really think it's a good thing to ride or race a motorcycle while high? Would you want your kid doing that? Why even try to put a good spin on it here?

I am with ya. See my other posts on here. As I said earlier I don't want to be on the track or have my kids on a track with someone that is using drugs or hung over from the night before for that matter. The reality is it happens and probably more than we would like to know.

Tell your 12 yr old to focus on the posts that are telling us how they wrecked their lives by using instead of the ass hats that are making it look cool and the thing to do.
11/14/2009 10:02am
Cygnus wrote:
Marijuana is not a dangerous drug. No one has ever died from Marijuana. weather you like it or not. Lots of fast guys smoke. Get over...
Marijuana is not a dangerous drug. No one has ever died from Marijuana. weather you like it or not. Lots of fast guys smoke. Get over it.
No one has ever died from steroids either.
11/14/2009 10:08am
Cygnus wrote:
Pretty fucking stupid.
really slow.

Do you drink alcohol?
Oldskool wrote:
Yes, I drink alcohol, but not before a ride. That would be just as stupid as smoking a bowl before a ride. Additionally, alcohol is not...
Yes, I drink alcohol, but not before a ride. That would be just as stupid as smoking a bowl before a ride.

Additionally, alcohol is not illegal. When pot is made legal, smoking it will not carry the possibility of a arrest but it will still be stupid to do before a ride.
crowe176 wrote:
Did you even bother to read the link you posted?

"Possession remains illegal under state law, but Breckenridge Police Chief Rick Holman said his department will 'still have the ability to exercise discretion,'

Guess which law supersedes which?
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11/14/2009 10:10am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 6:56pm
BobbyM wrote:
got some stories, a couple buds (no pun intended) that are damn good riders used to get a 2nd or 3rd at places like plymouth and...
got some stories, a couple buds (no pun intended) that are damn good riders used to get a 2nd or 3rd at places like plymouth and marysville (tracks that make southwick look like a girly track) in the 1st moto. walk the track and smoke a doobie or half and literally smoke the living shit out of everybody (no pun intended) and win by a mile. good times...no, great times i must say. got even better stories bout the "gofast" shit also...too funny.
I haven't read the rest of the replies, but this one is [i]epic[/i]! On a side note, Stephan Roncada was doped out of his mind on...
I haven't read the rest of the replies, but this one is epic!

On a side note, Stephan Roncada was doped out of his mind on pain medication according to his RacerX interview during this race. He claimed they made him super relaxed.




MX-LIFE. wrote:
Was that his excuse for getting beat also? lol
Awesome racing ! Stephane was fighting that back injury which would end his career very soon after Hangtown.


Imo, that day, the pain killers have not enhanced his formidable ability to go fast on an MX bike, they may have just contributed to unleash it - one last time.


He also had extra motivation from his difficult situation with his team at the time and that played a big factor too.


Regardless, who in the circuit can say he has handed it -or even tried to hand it- to both RC and James (RC made him pay his will to fight -I guess it was already at Hangtown- on the site, with a heavy ram that resulted in a twisted ankle for Ronron) ?


Not many, but Stephane is one of them and should be remembered & respected as such.


He had the raw speed and sometimes enough drivre to display the whole extent of his natural talent.


The pain killers addiction that started with that back injury almost took his life later on, so it was a very serious issue, I'm sure he did not use them to gain any sort of advantage but it sure was the swan song for one of the genuine good guys out there.


11/14/2009 10:10am
Didn't realize pot was so prevalent in the MX society. Now I realize why the MX boards are filled with moronic posts, I assumed it was all those kids home schooling. Laughing
11/14/2009 10:15am
If you're drinking every day, you may be an alcoholic. If you're getting high every day, you may be a drug addict. If you're cooking your own meth, crack, or growing your own weed so you never run out, you are probably obsessed with staying high.

It's a shitty way to live life. Enjoy, fella's.,
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11/14/2009 10:23am
Seems like (not from my own personal experiences... of course) that weed makes people paranoid. Actually it doesn't "seem" that way, it's pretty much a fact, is it not? Not sure how you could ride any faster while being paranoid out of your mind?

I'm talking strictly about riding and smoking like the title suggests. I definitely feel like the green stuff has been unfairly made out to be an evil killer. While I don't think it helps many people in daily life, I don't see it being the cause of death like alcohol is, in many situations.
11/14/2009 11:07am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 6:56pm





Its all I do and it dosnt hurt anyone.
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11/14/2009 11:10am
Xavier, I was at that race and the Roncada -James battle was one of the best I ever witnessed. A great race that will go down in American MX history as such. Another one similar was the 250 race with James and RC at Washougal I was privileged to watch it also.
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11/14/2009 11:48am
Oldskool wrote:
Yes, I drink alcohol, but not before a ride. That would be just as stupid as smoking a bowl before a ride. Additionally, alcohol is not...
Yes, I drink alcohol, but not before a ride. That would be just as stupid as smoking a bowl before a ride.

Additionally, alcohol is not illegal. When pot is made legal, smoking it will not carry the possibility of a arrest but it will still be stupid to do before a ride.
crowe176 wrote:
Did you even bother to read the link you posted? [b]"Possession remains illegal under state law, but Breckenridge Police Chief Rick Holman said his department will...
Did you even bother to read the link you posted?

"Possession remains illegal under state law, but Breckenridge Police Chief Rick Holman said his department will 'still have the ability to exercise discretion,'

Guess which law supersedes which?
11/14/2009 1:34pm
if there is such a thing as a gateway drug alcohol is it. it destroys many many more live's than weed does, alcohol is far more dangerous. weed does not affect your motor skills, that why dude's can go out and shred gnar after tokin up it helps you relax out there, some of the best in the world do it. weed don't make you go out and crash your car into some innocent person, it dont make you go out and beat the shit out of your girl or your buddy, the list goes on of the totally stupid shit people do while drinking. i say beer should be illegal long before weed should. we just have to educate ignorant fucktards like oldskool who thinks he can shelter his kid from the evil world of pot smokers while he drinks a beer. i think it's freakin ridiculous that people are being arrested and locked up for smokin weed. every person in everyday life inter acts with people that are smokin and don't even know it. so to all the hater's out there just simmer down brah, we ain't causin no commotion
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11/14/2009 1:41pm
I agree alcohol is the most harmful drug out there but, I don't think any kind of smoke sucked into your lungs is very good for you. However, I support your right to do either to your body if you wish.
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11/14/2009 1:46pm
What a stupid threadAngry
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11/14/2009 2:33pm
oldx wrote:
I agree alcohol is the most harmful drug out there but, I don't think any kind of smoke sucked into your lungs is very good for...
I agree alcohol is the most harmful drug out there but, I don't think any kind of smoke sucked into your lungs is very good for you. However, I support your right to do either to your body if you wish.
"I don't think any kind of smoke sucked into your lungs is very good for you. "

That's why you eat Marijuana Brownies.
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11/14/2009 2:36pm
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if there is such a thing as a gateway drug alcohol is it. it destroys many many more live's than weed does, alcohol is far more...
if there is such a thing as a gateway drug alcohol is it. it destroys many many more live's than weed does, alcohol is far more dangerous. weed does not affect your motor skills, that why dude's can go out and shred gnar after tokin up it helps you relax out there, some of the best in the world do it. weed don't make you go out and crash your car into some innocent person, it dont make you go out and beat the shit out of your girl or your buddy, the list goes on of the totally stupid shit people do while drinking. i say beer should be illegal long before weed should. we just have to educate ignorant fucktards like oldskool who thinks he can shelter his kid from the evil world of pot smokers while he drinks a beer. i think it's freakin ridiculous that people are being arrested and locked up for smokin weed. every person in everyday life inter acts with people that are smokin and don't even know it. so to all the hater's out there just simmer down brah, we ain't causin no commotion
lmao. Weed doesn't effect you motor skills? Seriously? Smoke another one dude! lmao

Weed was pretty much the end of my racing career. I progressed to one of the top local pros and went 6-7 at my first Pro National, but I lost focus and hit the bong harder. Results went away, along with school, family and jobs. I've been straight for over 25 years now, but I'm still paying for the mistakes I made because of weed.
11/14/2009 2:38pm Edited Date/Time 11/14/2009 2:50pm
crowe176 wrote:
Did you even bother to read the link you posted? [b]"Possession remains illegal under state law, but Breckenridge Police Chief Rick Holman said his department will...
Did you even bother to read the link you posted?

"Possession remains illegal under state law, but Breckenridge Police Chief Rick Holman said his department will 'still have the ability to exercise discretion,'

Guess which law supersedes which?
crowe176 wrote:
So now you post a medical marijuana link? Classic! Maybe in your next post you can really outdo yourself and show all the states where you can use medicinal marijuana under a doctors care. Again did you even read the link that you posted? What are you trying to prove?
11/14/2009 2:41pm
mxpilot43 wrote:
if there is such a thing as a gateway drug alcohol is it. it destroys many many more live's than weed does, alcohol is far more...
if there is such a thing as a gateway drug alcohol is it. it destroys many many more live's than weed does, alcohol is far more dangerous. weed does not affect your motor skills, that why dude's can go out and shred gnar after tokin up it helps you relax out there, some of the best in the world do it. weed don't make you go out and crash your car into some innocent person, it dont make you go out and beat the shit out of your girl or your buddy, the list goes on of the totally stupid shit people do while drinking. i say beer should be illegal long before weed should. we just have to educate ignorant fucktards like oldskool who thinks he can shelter his kid from the evil world of pot smokers while he drinks a beer. i think it's freakin ridiculous that people are being arrested and locked up for smokin weed. every person in everyday life inter acts with people that are smokin and don't even know it. so to all the hater's out there just simmer down brah, we ain't causin no commotion
TerryK wrote:
lmao. Weed doesn't effect you motor skills? Seriously? Smoke another one dude! lmao Weed was pretty much the end of my racing career. I progressed to...
lmao. Weed doesn't effect you motor skills? Seriously? Smoke another one dude! lmao

Weed was pretty much the end of my racing career. I progressed to one of the top local pros and went 6-7 at my first Pro National, but I lost focus and hit the bong harder. Results went away, along with school, family and jobs. I've been straight for over 25 years now, but I'm still paying for the mistakes I made because of weed.
Terry has lived it and gets it.
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11/14/2009 2:46pm
The Angriest and most Hateful posts in here are from guys that DIDN"T EVEN READ THE ORIGINAL POST!

My point has been made.

Thank you!
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11/14/2009 2:50pm
mxpilot43 wrote:
if there is such a thing as a gateway drug alcohol is it. it destroys many many more live's than weed does, alcohol is far more...
if there is such a thing as a gateway drug alcohol is it. it destroys many many more live's than weed does, alcohol is far more dangerous. weed does not affect your motor skills, that why dude's can go out and shred gnar after tokin up it helps you relax out there, some of the best in the world do it. weed don't make you go out and crash your car into some innocent person, it dont make you go out and beat the shit out of your girl or your buddy, the list goes on of the totally stupid shit people do while drinking. i say beer should be illegal long before weed should. we just have to educate ignorant fucktards like oldskool who thinks he can shelter his kid from the evil world of pot smokers while he drinks a beer. i think it's freakin ridiculous that people are being arrested and locked up for smokin weed. every person in everyday life inter acts with people that are smokin and don't even know it. so to all the hater's out there just simmer down brah, we ain't causin no commotion
Of course, so now I'm an "ignorant fucktard" whom you think you have to educate? Educate me to do or think what, exactly? Educate me to NOT "shelter" my kids against the obvious dangers of racing motocross while stoned?

You clearly missed my post where I agreed with Cygnus that the law should be changed in regards to weed. Did you ever read anything that I have written where I referenced "the evil world of pot".

The intent of my posts here have been to simply point out that it is stupid to ride stoned and not productive in any sense to encourage the younger readers of this site to smoke pot and ride their motorcycle while stoned.

If you want to demonize me for that position, please feel free. You don't know me or anything about my family or my history that would give any validation to the words that you are trying to put in my mouth.


Take another toke and settle down.
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11/14/2009 4:19pm
Addicts would still be where they are even if they never tried weed. If not weed, then alcohol or pills and so on. And people saying weed ruined their life. Being weak minded ruined your life. Always got to blame other people or vices. I would rather someone smoke too much weed then drink too much or take a lot of pills. To each their own.
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11/14/2009 4:21pm
oldx wrote:
I agree alcohol is the most harmful drug out there but, I don't think any kind of smoke sucked into your lungs is very good for...
I agree alcohol is the most harmful drug out there but, I don't think any kind of smoke sucked into your lungs is very good for you. However, I support your right to do either to your body if you wish.
FastEddy wrote:
"I don't think any kind of smoke sucked into your lungs is very good for you. "

That's why you eat Marijuana Brownies.
Well, I do like brownies.
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11/14/2009 4:32pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 6:57pm
I am gonna try this.

http://www.onr.com/user/liberty/Marijuana/MBeer/MBeer.html

Marijuana In Beer

OR "DON'T BOGART THAT BEER MY FRIEND"

By Greg Kitsock

It was called Brain Death, and it was a high gravity brew in more than one sense of the word.

Brain Death was the creation of two homebrewers and certified beer judges, both brewers of whom are highly respected in their hobby. (For reasons that will become apparent, they wish to remain anonymous.) A potent barleywine (OG 1,100), Brain Death contained an extra ingredient that one of the euphemistically calls "special hops".

In fact, the beer was "dry hemped" with flowers of the female marijuana plant, homegrown by an acquaintance in Texas. The alcohol and tetrahydrocannibanol (THC) made a mind rattling combination.

The creators of Brain Death brought some samples to the 1988 American Homebrewers Association convention in Denver, CO. There, the brewers were approached by Michael Jackson. Recalled one of them: "We told him what was in it, and poured him a pint. Forty five minutes later, he came back and asked, 'Is there any chance there would be some Brain Death left?' We gave him our last bottle."

The brewer later had his copy of Michael Jackson's Beer Companion inscribed, "To [NAME]. Ever since we met, I've been suffering from Brain Death. Cheers, Michael."

Cannabis sativa...some call it the hop's shady relation. Both plants belong to the family Cannabinacea, and hail from Central Asia. Both are dioecious, meaning the species consists of male and female plants with separate sex organs. Both are prized for the sticky secretions of glands on their flowers and leaves, which have narcotic properties. (Lupulin, the active ingredient in hops, won't get you high, but it does have a narcoleptic effect; hop pillows have been used for centuries to treat insomnia.) However, hops are green gold, a billion dollar cash crop, while cannabis is an outlaw, banned in the USA since 1937.

Actually, it's the cultivation of cannabis that's banned. It's still permissable to import byproducts of industrial hemp, a low THC variety grown in Europe and Asia. Hemp seeds used to find their way into bird feeders across the country. Now, their primary use is as a brewing adjunct. Hempen Ale, a new release from the Frederick Brewing Company in Frederick, MD, contains between 10 and 30% hemp seeds in the mash. The seeds are laboratory certified to be THC free, assures Steve Nordahl, VP of brewery operations. But they're rich in proteins and fatty acids, lending this brown ale an oily mouthfeel and creamy white head, as well as a mild herbal/spicy aftertaste. By this fall, estimates Nordahl, the brewery will be running through about 45,000 pounds of hemp secds a month...about 75% of the total entering this country.

The Creston Brewing Company in Creston, CA also has a hemp flavored brew on the market. Olde Hempinstead 4 20 is an amber ale filtered through sterile hemp cloth. The name "4 20," claims brewer Kip Andersen, comes from West Coast police jargon for a pot party in progress. Olde Hempinstead claims to be a stone (if not stoned) beer. "A portion of the beer in every batch is brewed by immersing super heated brewing rocks into wooden bowls...," states the label, which features two "dancing Tibetan skeletons." Rubber banded to each 22 oz bottle is a pamphlet titled "Hemp, Beer and Civilization," which argues for hemp's relegalization.

Cannabis brews are probably quite old, considering that alcohol and pot vye with one another for being mankind's earliest intoxicant. Where fermentation originated, we have no idea, but the mind altering properties of pot were first exploited in India and China. According to 100 Years of Brewing (Chicago & New York: H.S. Rich & Co., 1905), the sacred literature of the ancient Indians and Persians mentions bonga, a "beverage strongly intoxicating...which was probably prepared from flax seed (cannabis)." Bonga-alternately spelled banga, bangha and bhang-was prepared from marijuana leaves and was less powerful than similar preparations called ganga and charas, argues Ernest L. Abel in his book Marihuana: The First Twelve Thousand Years. "A host would offer a cup of bhang to a guest as casually as we would offer someone in our own house a glass of beer."

Abel offers a turn of the century recipe for bhang which calls for 220 grains of cannabis added to 20 oz of milk, along with varying amounts of sugar, poppy seed, pepper, ginger, caraway seed, cloves, cardamom, cinnamon, cucumber seed, almonds, nutmeg and rosebuds, all boiled together.

Thomas Bowrey, an English sea captain who visited India in the late 17th century, was one of the first Europeans to sample bhang. He described its preparation:

"Pound or grinde a handfulle of the Seed and leafe together, which mixt with one Pint of fresh Water, and let it Soake neare one quarter of an houre or more, then strained through a piece of Calicoe or what else is fine, and drinke off the liquor, and in less than half an houre it's Operation will Shew it Selfe for the space of 4 or 5 hours."

Bowrey reported that the concoction affected different men indifferent ways: some wept, some cringed in fear, one angrily pounded his fists against a wooden beam for no reason, while Bowrey sat sweating profusely.

None of these sources mentions bhang as containing alcohol, but the Indians have long been skilled in the art of fermentation. Ancient Sanskrit documents mention soma, a beverage made from the fermented juice of a species of creeper blended with malt, warm milk or butter; and sura, a libation made from millet, barley, water, curds, butter and honey. It would have been a simple matter to mix in some cannabis to give the drink more bhang for the buck.

At any rate, the Chinese did blend the two drugs for cumulative effect. According to Abel, Elua T'o-a surgeon from the 2nd century AD-created a potion called ma yo from cannabis resin and wine. As an anaesthetic, it was supposed to knock the patient senseless in minutes flat. Abel is skeptical of the claim. Nevertheless, it's interesting to note that Michael Jackson, in discussing the marijuana laced barleywine, claimed that he "slept very well that night." Sounds like a pretty good alternative to acupuncture.

Europeans were raising hemp by the Middle Ages, possibly right alongside the first hop gardens. The plant was used more for rope than for dope. Cool, humid climates, writes Abel, favor the growth of the stalk with its strong, supple fibers, and discourage the production of the THC rich resin. At times, hemp was more valued than its botanical cousin, the hop. Henry VIII, for instance, warned his brewer not to use any hops in the royal beer, regarding them as an unsavory weed. However, he ordered that farmers plant; one quarter acre of hemp for every 60 acres they owned, on penalty of a major fine;The hemp was processed into rope and sails to equip His Maiesty's Navy. Within a century after Henry's death, Kentish hop growers were stuffing the newly picked cones into huge 'sacks of crudely woven hemp.

"Drugging" beer-spiking the brew with narcotics to increase its potency-was a common practice in early 18th century England. Some of the more dangerous additives included opium, wormwood, and cocculus indicus, a poisonous berry native to India and Sri Lanka. But there is no indication that cannabis was used as an adjunct. Most Europeans were ignorant of the plant's psychoactive effects until after the Napoleonic Wars, when scores of French soldiers returned from Egypt addicted to hashish.

According to beer historian Alan Eames, a marijuana beer was brewed in the late 1960s by a couple of underground homebrewers who operated out of an airplane hangar on the island of Oahu, Hawaii. The brewers distilled the cannibanol oil out of the leaves and blossoms, then added it to their base beer-a brown ale-after the boil. What they didn't drink themselves, they sold for about $45 a case. "The levels were very high," states Eames. A few bottles of this and you'd have "some real time and spatial problems."

Another pioneer marijuana brewer was U.B. ("Unknown Brewer"), coauthor of the slim volume Marijuana Beer (see review in the February/March 1997 issue of Southwest Brewing News). U.B. turned to brewing as a way of utilizing the lower leaves and trimmings of the cannabis plant, which are lower in THC than the bud and yield a harsh taste when smoked. Between 1979 and 1983, U.B. experirnented with a variety of recipes and styles. But this was the dawn of amateur zymurgy, and U.B's recipes incorporate ingredients like corn and cane sugar that most current homebrewers would eschew. Even in the updated 1996 version, the bibliography lists no source more current than 1981. The name Charlie Papazian is nowhere to be encountered.

The brewers of Brain Death made two five gallon batches in 1988. The first, which was infused with 2 1/2 ounces of "special hops," was judged superior to the second, which received only 1 1/2 ounces. Both times, the brewers steeped the flowers beforehand in water heated to about 150 degrees. Two 45 minute rinses allowed most of the chlorophyll, tannin, and other undesirable chemicals to leech out. "Otherwise, it would have given the beer a leafy taste and color," said our source.

The beer itself was described as a "pretty dry barleywine, but with good residual sugars." After a ten day fermentation, the cannabis blossoms were added directly to the beer, where they remained for two weeks. The barleywine was then racked off and bottled.

How potent was Brain Death? En route to the 1988 AHA convention, our mystery brewers stopped off in western Kansas one fine morning and enjoyed two bottles apiece. "We experienced another level of perception," recalled the brewer. "Of course, we already had a good buzz on from drinking without breakfast."

Apart from its time and space altering properties, the beer had a taste like no other. it was described to us as resinous but not piny, with a flowery aroma similar to "really fresh, whole noble hops." Commented its creator: "I've tried one other marijuana beer that tasted green and grassy. But Brain Death was sophisticated."

Taking a slightly different approach was the brewer of Canabis Porter and Sixth Quarter Porter. This gentleman is a professional brewer who used to work for a brewpub in the Southwest US which is no longer active. Mystery brewer #2 obtained "OK quality" Mexican weed which was a blend of seeds, stems and buds. He removed the seeds and cut up the marijuana, then funneled it into an empty carboy. Next, the base beer-"a nice, simple, three grain porter-was poured over the pot. The brew was allowed to age for about a month.

Our second brewer did not steep the cannabis in hot water beforehand, and reported that his beer had a "green" taste . "Right out in front, but not unpleasant" is how he characterized it.

For his first batch, the brewer used about a quarter ounce of marijuana per five gallons. The beer came out "mellow and awesome," he recalls, but had little THC kick. For the follow up batch, the dose was upped to half an ounce. Drinking a bottle, he recalled, was like eating a hash brownie. "A quart split among three people would give you a nice relaxing sensation throughout your body. Twelve ounces, and you'd most definitely feel it."

He had three pieces of advice for homebrewers doing a pot beer. First, don't insert the cannabis during the boil-"you'll only destroy it!" Since THC dissolves in alcohol but not water, the beer should ideally have undergone primary fermentation before it's dry hemped. Secondly, for a base, marijuana brewer #2 recommends a beer style that can tolerate a vigorous dry hopping, such as a porter or American pale ale . Lastly, the beer should be consumed as soon as possible for the cannabis to have maximum effect. It's the brewer's experience that THC breaks down in the presence of heat and light, and deteriorates with age. "After a year, your beer may be interesting, but it won't be psychoactive."

On the other hand, the brewer of Brain Death cited earlier believed his beer peaked after 1 1/2 years. However, his recipe incorporated pure flowers of "extraordinary" quality. The Brain Death brewer noted that a pot beer is "not something you do for economy's sake." Diluting your stash in several gallons of beer will give you nowhere the kick of smoking it.

A word of caution: marijuana remains a controlled substance. In Washington, DC, this writer's neck of the woods, mere possession can get you a $1,000 fine and up to 180 days in jail. Penalties for selling and distributing pot are gerlerally much stiffer. Readers of this publication may remember the case of Dave Harvan, who ran Electric Dave's Brewery in South Bisbee, AZ from 1988 to 1993. Four years ago, he was arrested for mailing a large quantity of marijuana to a friend on the East Coast. Although it was his first offense, he received a five year prison sentence. The brewer of the potted porters described above was once arrested in Texas for having two grams of marijuana in his possession. He got off with a year's probation, but had to pay $2,500 in fines and court costs.

As a legal alternative, homebrewers may want to experiment with hemp seeds. The Ohio hempery in Guysvile, OH, the supplier of Frederick Brewing Companytwill sell you a one pound bag for $7. The price includes a cookbook with hemp recipes ranging from hummus to chocolate chip cookies. Phone 1800 BUYHEMP.

Kitsock is the associate editor of the Virginia-based BarleyCorn beer newspaper and a frequent contributor to Southern Draft.

This article originally ran in the August/September 1997 issue of the Southwest Brewing News. One year subscriptions (6 issues) to Southwest Brewing News are available by sending a check for $15 to the paper, at 1505 Lupine Lane, Austin, TX 78741.
Bill Metzger, Publisher
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