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Matthes
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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 12:45am
says whats on his mind. Agree, disagree and discuss.

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Thanks to Booberson for letting me spam and thanks to the dude that calls himself "Skinny Matthes"...that's awesome and I'm honored.
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11/16/2009 7:06pm Edited Date/Time 11/16/2009 7:07pm
No way, you have an interview with Speed's brother Rex, and they've both converted to moto?
JOHN CHOATE
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11/16/2009 7:12pm
I like the idea. Very cool Matthes!
swizcore
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11/16/2009 7:13pm
Whoever the rider is, the insight is awesome.
Im sure there will be plenty of far fetched arguments chiming in though.
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11/16/2009 7:14pm
sorry...... but drop by any local track and every rider on the track is also risking life and limb, and they are paying, not getting paid, for the privilege to do so... so kinda a lame argument on Rider X's part....

and at the end of the day..... i don't think most are overpaid...... win, lose, whatever.... pro riders are simply marketing material to sell more bikes/gear/googles/whatever.... if they are getting paid 80k a year, but help sell 200k in bikes, the rider was a good investment... if they spend half the year sitting at home or in jail, bike/gear/google sales will suffer, so perhaps those riders aren't such a good investment....

good feature Matthes.... can't wait to see more of them....

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11/16/2009 7:20pm
Mathes, i had put a thread about this on here last week, basically wishing for more of an inside scoop on day to day tasks for the teams etc and its really cool to see that you have come up with something like this! Would be cool if you could try to get some story going with insightful stuff about the teams too, we had some positive feedback i guess you could say so i think i speak for most when i say it will definitely be appreciated! Once again great job and the podcasts are second to none!
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11/16/2009 7:24pm
Good stuff, Matthes. I particularly enjoyed the Emig podcast on my flight home from Utah this morning.
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11/16/2009 7:25pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 6:59pm
Okay, people on the internet say the riders are overpaid? I think that's a tag on to the poster's existing dislike of that dude; it's not about pay, it's about the guy they don't like.


I expect like everyone the guys live in their own particular little world, that goes for riders as well as fans. Maybe mechanics get the worst of both.


Re: teams breaking contracts, any rider that doesn't have a provision in his contract providing that the prevailing party in an action to enforce the contract recovers attorney fees and costs has rocks in his head. Any agent that would allow his rider to enter into such a contract is incompetent.


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11/16/2009 7:49pm
Josh Grant?? or Andrew Short?? process of elimination
It must be a bitch to have a house on either coast. People, if you pay over 50% in taxes, your CPA sucks dick
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11/16/2009 8:03pm
I quit reading it, it was just a ramble with bitching about the Inter-net mixed in.

I'd say it's Milsaps but that's just a guess.
ebers
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11/16/2009 8:06pm
Cool feature Matthes, but whomever the annonymous rider is, is doing nothing but whining and sniffling to me, grow a sack and shut up and enjoy what you're doing. I'm not saying said racer isn't deserving of a good salary, but come on man, quit the whining.
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11/16/2009 8:12pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 6:59pm
ebers wrote:
Cool feature Matthes, but whomever the annonymous rider is, is doing nothing but whining and sniffling to me, grow a sack and shut up and enjoy...
Cool feature Matthes, but whomever the annonymous rider is, is doing nothing but whining and sniffling to me, grow a sack and shut up and enjoy what you're doing. I'm not saying said racer isn't deserving of a good salary, but come on man, quit the whining.
I don't think it came off that way, I think he wanted to just explain that his life isn't all about bitches and ho's as a top guy. Just wanted to educate I guess.


500guy- If you read on, I think you'd realize it wasn't Millsaps. lol...
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11/16/2009 8:14pm
I don't think anyone say's the riders are over paid , I think it's more of a deal when a select few get paid big dollars and don't clock in for work and admit in interveiws they just were not into it or what ever the problem is.
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11/16/2009 8:15pm
All I can say is wow. What a whiney ass bitch. So the riders are the show huh? The sport would fail without them? Uh guess again buddy. If peole are not buying Honda motrcycles, parts, cars, gererators and other things you don't have a fucking job. And I love how whoever this is acts like his job is so damn hard. You know damn well this jackass couldn't wrk a construction job in the freezing ass cold of winter for 30,00 a year. You know why pro athelets make a ton of money? Because there sport generates alot of money. What a concept huh! Douche!
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11/16/2009 8:15pm
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ebers
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11/16/2009 8:16pm
Matthes wrote:
I don't think it came off that way, I think he wanted to just explain that his life isn't all about bitches and ho's as a...
I don't think it came off that way, I think he wanted to just explain that his life isn't all about bitches and ho's as a top guy. Just wanted to educate I guess.


500guy- If you read on, I think you'd realize it wasn't Millsaps. lol...
Maybe I read it the wrong way, it was just the vibe I got. And I'm not arguing he deserves pay, and I know its not as glamorous as it all seems, but it came off a bit touchy and a bit bitter to me. Maybe I'll re-read it, but I like the concept of the headline idea!
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11/16/2009 8:17pm
You finally got that Tony A interview Matthes!!

Congrats!
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11/16/2009 8:19pm
Ha ha I went back and saw that.

I think if a person went and made a list of all the riders he mentioned we could narrow it down.
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11/16/2009 8:22pm
500guy wrote:
Ha ha I went back and saw that. I think if a person went and made a list of all the riders he mentioned we could...
Ha ha I went back and saw that.

I think if a person went and made a list of all the riders he mentioned we could narrow it down.
Weege commented that a bunch of dudes are going to think I made it up which I hadn't thought of. That's the naive Canadian in me coming out I guess. Thanks to those that liked it.
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11/16/2009 8:24pm
Cool idea Steve.



I think that rider might be too concerned with a FEW internet clowns who for some reason or another feel the need to take shots at the riders.
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11/16/2009 8:33pm
Who ever it is we drive him nuts. Now he's gonna have to plonk down a bunch more dough for a therapist to un nut him.

Bummer
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11/16/2009 8:35pm
Anyone that has ever read what Matthes writes would know this isn't made up, but that would be a good angle for the Industries to take so the finger pointing could stop.

I went back and read it all, I do think it was a little bitchy but RiderX has some valid points about risks and expenses.
11/16/2009 8:35pm
great read!
ebers
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11/16/2009 8:38pm
I'd love to hear from a couple true privateers and get there opinion on the piece. I think it'd be interesting to see what a rider that makes the program here and there but goes every week trying his hardest and see what he has to say.
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11/16/2009 8:43pm
Okay, people on the internet say the riders are overpaid? I think that's a tag on to the poster's existing dislike of that dude; it's not...
Okay, people on the internet say the riders are overpaid? I think that's a tag on to the poster's existing dislike of that dude; it's not about pay, it's about the guy they don't like.


I expect like everyone the guys live in their own particular little world, that goes for riders as well as fans. Maybe mechanics get the worst of both.


Re: teams breaking contracts, any rider that doesn't have a provision in his contract providing that the prevailing party in an action to enforce the contract recovers attorney fees and costs has rocks in his head. Any agent that would allow his rider to enter into such a contract is incompetent.


Pretty sure that conversation has come up in the past that you have far too many pseudo agents in this sport with little to no qualifications.
11/16/2009 8:45pm
Mathes that was legit.... Cheers
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11/16/2009 8:54pm
Excellent read Steve, and a great idea!
11/16/2009 8:54pm
That person goes on to say without them there would be no mechanics or teams.

Sorry to say, but, BS. There would be another guy that would take his place. May not be as fast... but it's a trickle down effect. Speed is relative to the guy you're racing.

How about where would this guy be if he didn't race MX or be connected to a job in the industry?

Before the pro's go reading this, I am in no way shape or form saying you don't deserve what you're getting.. or am taking your talent for granted. Just remember there is no "I" in team.
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11/16/2009 9:07pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 6:59pm
I love people who bitch about the internet, it's "oh so trendy". Funny how it does really bother some. In the podcasts they constantly refer to "it", David & Kevin, again and again bring it back, same thing, "those people on the forums". Ping, can't write an edito' without adding his line on it, just 1 more time.

Amusing. Specially coming from some of these people who wouldn't have an income anymore, if it wasn't for the Internet and the hardcore fans who frequent the forums.

Some of these people are lucky there are not in pro football, the MLB, International soccer or Nascar.
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11/16/2009 9:15pm
This was one of Matthes' better pieces. (maybe because he wasn't in it lol) I agree with most of what rider x said.

Marketing in mx sucks, that's it,nothing more to it. Most sports are promoted by the sanctioning body. MLB, NBA, the NFL market thier players. Whether it's a jersey on a web site or whatever. Mx doesn't have that. You can go to Wal Mart and buy NFL jerseys. Where can you go to buy a Ivan Tedesco jersey?? Until mx sees that they are all in this together, it will continue. There is no group in mx that looks out for all riders, it's basically a few guys at the top, who don't see the problem. So the rest try and get as much as you can because your time in this sport is short.

All athletes should get as much money as they can!!

I think rider x would be suprised how much a family spends on a kid to try and help him become a professional baseball player..

Good piece though
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11/16/2009 9:16pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 6:59pm
Just remember there is no "I" in team.

Nope, but there is an "I" in win!!!

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