MMI Question.

mxracer336
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Edited Date/Time 1/22/2012 11:32am
I'm set to attend MMI in the middle of july, and as you can imagine it's very expensive. I have already applied for the Jermy Mcgrath scholarship. If anyone has any information about scholarships it would be greatly appreciated if you could give me some information on them.
Thanks in advance.
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1/21/2009 4:25pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:06pm
Contact MMI and talk either to the financial aid office or a counselor to find out the info you're inquiring about.





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Doesn't somebody hold a contest, about every SX season, for a free MMI scholarship? Do a search.
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If you are looking to make more than minimum wage choose a different field.
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1/21/2009 5:52pm
The financial office at MMI will do all the grant searches for you. I got a $1300.00 grant.
Here in AZ it is very difficult to find a technician job at a dealer. The shops are laying people off right now. Several shops have actually closed down. I heard CA is slowing down also. As far as the Jeremy Mcgrath scholarship, you will be competing against a lot of people and the odds aren't good.

Good Luck

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I graduated from a tech school much like MMI middle of last year, and got on almost immediately at a pretty big dealer, and I can assure you it's not minimum wage work. I'm not absolutely rolling in cash, especially since I've just started and am still on hourly pay, not flat rate, but if you can get onto a good dealer and stick with it and get good at it, there's some decent money to be had. You may not be making over 100K a year, but the more experienced techs I work with do quite well.

As for financial aid, I took a test that the school offered, placed 3rd and got a few $K off my tuition. If you're coming out of high school, ask your counselor for any scholarships that might help you, they're out there.
1/21/2009 6:29pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:06pm
since i've been a licensed aircraft mechanic for over 30 years, i wouldn't even think of working on motorcycles to make a living. check out these pay scales and compare them with working at your local dealership. once you get an FAA Airframe and Powerplant ticket, you'll never be without a job----worldwide possibilities. there are plenty of A&P schools around the country from local colleges and technical schools or even military experience. the benefits and perks aren't bad either.

http://www.spartan.edu/

http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layouthtmls/swzl_compresult_national…

http://www.avjobs.com/salaries-wages-pay/index.asp

http://www.jsfirm.com/searchjobs.asp

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1/21/2009 8:26pm
Good advise dirtbikemike.
motorcycle mechanic can be a tough career choice.
MXracer if you find you simply cannot afford MMI, find a well established shop with a very good mechanic. Offer to work your butt of as a helper/apprentice.
You will probably learn as much if not more than you would at a motorcycle trade school.
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1/21/2009 8:43pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:06pm
Don't listen to these guys MXRACER...


If you absolutely love motorcycles then do it even if you make minimum wage you will be way happier than you would working on an Airplane for more money. I work on bikes everyday and there have been times when I have been super super broke however I wouldn't change it for the world. When all is said and done I find myself sitting on the back of the van at races just feeling lucky and happy that I work on dirt bikes for a living... I still can't believe I do this sometimes.


HOWEVER, if you don't absolutely love it, then don't do it. It will either ruin your hobby or you won't have much money to do things that you might enjoy otherwise. All of the money I make goes right back into my business because it's what I enjoy most. My life is awesome.. I work on bikes all day listening to old DMXS archives, when I eat lunch I am on the internet reading about MX, when I am not working or at the races I am watching it on TV or reading TWMX. It's the first thing I think about when I wake up in the morning and the last. I never get tired of it and I don't really care about anything else besides MX and my son. Just make sure it's your passion.
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Good advise dirtbikemike. motorcycle mechanic can be a tough career choice. MXracer if you find you simply cannot afford MMI, find a well established shop with...
Good advise dirtbikemike.
motorcycle mechanic can be a tough career choice.
MXracer if you find you simply cannot afford MMI, find a well established shop with a very good mechanic. Offer to work your butt of as a helper/apprentice.
You will probably learn as much if not more than you would at a motorcycle trade school.
Waaay good advice tuned....here's a link that is IMHO pretty accurate.
Also like another said, there are many city/community colleges that teach to become a M/C techs.....and I guarantee you will learn the same M/C theories, technologies and terminologies MMI teaches. And when you graduate and if you get hired, gotta have your own tools to work with.

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Motorcycle_Service_Technician/H…

Good luck.

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davis224 wrote:
I graduated from a tech school much like MMI middle of last year, and got on almost immediately at a pretty big dealer, and I can...
I graduated from a tech school much like MMI middle of last year, and got on almost immediately at a pretty big dealer, and I can assure you it's not minimum wage work. I'm not absolutely rolling in cash, especially since I've just started and am still on hourly pay, not flat rate, but if you can get onto a good dealer and stick with it and get good at it, there's some decent money to be had. You may not be making over 100K a year, but the more experienced techs I work with do quite well.

As for financial aid, I took a test that the school offered, placed 3rd and got a few $K off my tuition. If you're coming out of high school, ask your counselor for any scholarships that might help you, they're out there.
good for you man...you gotta start somewhere. don't listen to the jackass above
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He is a jackass for sure.
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BIGHEAD1 wrote:
Don't listen to these guys MXRACER... If you absolutely love motorcycles then do it even if you make minimum wage you will be way happier than...
Don't listen to these guys MXRACER...


If you absolutely love motorcycles then do it even if you make minimum wage you will be way happier than you would working on an Airplane for more money. I work on bikes everyday and there have been times when I have been super super broke however I wouldn't change it for the world. When all is said and done I find myself sitting on the back of the van at races just feeling lucky and happy that I work on dirt bikes for a living... I still can't believe I do this sometimes.


HOWEVER, if you don't absolutely love it, then don't do it. It will either ruin your hobby or you won't have much money to do things that you might enjoy otherwise. All of the money I make goes right back into my business because it's what I enjoy most. My life is awesome.. I work on bikes all day listening to old DMXS archives, when I eat lunch I am on the internet reading about MX, when I am not working or at the races I am watching it on TV or reading TWMX. It's the first thing I think about when I wake up in the morning and the last. I never get tired of it and I don't really care about anything else besides MX and my son. Just make sure it's your passion.
Great opposing view Big!
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1/22/2009 5:39am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:06pm
BIGHEAD1 wrote:
Don't listen to these guys MXRACER... If you absolutely love motorcycles then do it even if you make minimum wage you will be way happier than...
Don't listen to these guys MXRACER...


If you absolutely love motorcycles then do it even if you make minimum wage you will be way happier than you would working on an Airplane for more money. I work on bikes everyday and there have been times when I have been super super broke however I wouldn't change it for the world. When all is said and done I find myself sitting on the back of the van at races just feeling lucky and happy that I work on dirt bikes for a living... I still can't believe I do this sometimes.


HOWEVER, if you don't absolutely love it, then don't do it. It will either ruin your hobby or you won't have much money to do things that you might enjoy otherwise. All of the money I make goes right back into my business because it's what I enjoy most. My life is awesome.. I work on bikes all day listening to old DMXS archives, when I eat lunch I am on the internet reading about MX, when I am not working or at the races I am watching it on TV or reading TWMX. It's the first thing I think about when I wake up in the morning and the last. I never get tired of it and I don't really care about anything else besides MX and my son. Just make sure it's your passion.
Great opposing view Big!
And a well written opinion based on experience. I like it!

DBMike has a great opposing view, too. Good debate!


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Be a FED EX DRIVER!!!
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MOTO459 wrote:
Be a FED EX DRIVER!!!
haha lol thats not funny.....

but thanks eveyone for your opinions and info but i think im gonna stick with ''big'' on this one.
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1/22/2009 11:40am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:07pm
Working in the MC industry requires long hours when its busy and long hours even when it is not. You will get severely burnt out especially if you ride/race every weekend.

I have worked with many MMI grads and there are 2 things MMI or any MC school do not teach you.....how to work FAST and how to up sell additional work. MMI gives you book knowledge with some basic hands on experience but its on bikes that have been apart 100's to 1000's of times so they basically fall apart and you do not have to scrape gaskets ...remove broken bolts ect...when in the real world it is much harder and requires much more attention detail and looking for short cuts to save time that the manuals do not show you.

Hourly you will barely make it. Flat rate is where the $$ is. Back when I was wrenching I turned an average of 60-100 hours a week. If the doors were open...... I was there 6 days a week. The problem with flat rate is you basically starve from Oct-March. It sucks standing around and fighting over whatever job came threw the door with 3 or 4 other techs. I asked to be the 1st person laid off in the winter. Its feast or famine! You must save when its good for the slow times.

I would recommend that anyone who wants to be a MC tech to start out by working at a shop even if you're just a shop rat cleaning up and changing tires & brakes. Then go to MMI and learn after you have gotten your feet wet and understand how things work. If you show potential a good shop may help you out with tuition and a job when your done ......or send you to the factory schools.

I started out doing work study my senior year in High School where I went to 3 or 4 classes in the morning then got credit for going to work for the rest of the day. I did some basic repairs and changed 1000's of tires. The shop kept telling me that they were going to send me to Honda classes but after 2 years they never did but I learned a lot from the other techs and was able to do anything that came threw the door. I heard another shop (Cycle 5 in Dunkirk MD) was looking for a tech and in my interview asked them to send me to Kawasaki school. A week later I was sitting in NJ in classes. Funny thing was that I already had learned 95% of what they were teaching but it was worth it. BTW....shops must send techs to these classes to increase their flat rate warranty $

1/22/2009 11:50am
I agree with lumpy. do a turn as a gopher or even lot boy see if turning wrenches is what you want. Remember how many go to college and find out they don't like that profession. Then go to MMI or another good school. The school is good but you have to have some on-the-training also. Just remember learn as much as you can because they can't take it away from you and you might use it on down the road.
1/22/2009 12:24pm
i have a hand full of close friends and know a few more that have went to mmi or similar schools. half of them dont work on motorcyles and do something completely different, or stuck at the parts counter making a little over minimum wage and being a shop biatch for a few cents over minimum wage. if you do decide to persue, good luck.
from what i hear, its not quite worth going. i didnt go to school for it, and ive pretty close to completely rebuilt my 450 with no problems at all. they dont prepare you enough to go get that top mechanics spot at a large dealership, and for that kind of money to go there, i think they should.
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My son is going to MC mechanics school in the fall. Our local community college has a MC class and I made him do that for a year to be sure it was what he wanted to do. It cost about $1500 total and he lives at home.
-He's a fourth generation motorcyclist, has a 4.0, and is 1st in his class out of about 25. He's going knowing that it's for him.
I've looked for scholarships for him, but they're far and few between for the bike industry, unless I don't know where to look. You may as well plan on paying or getting a student loan.
1/22/2009 12:53pm
My honest opinion, if you aren't good at working on stuff right now before going to school... you're still not going to be good after school.
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My honest opinion, if you aren't good at working on stuff right now before going to school... you're still not going to be good after school.
I agree 100%.
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Check with your local Community. Rotary, Lions, Elks all support further eduction. It's not going to get you a lot but it will help.
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If MMI is anything like their sister school UTI, don't waste your money. It's basically an extension of high school for kids.
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If MMI is anything like their sister school UTI, don't waste your money. It's basically an extension of high school for kids.
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1/22/2009 5:03pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:07pm
1st, pick your poison! School or not to school?
Me, never went. Learned the hard way......Shoot
still under construction, the learning part. See,
you never really stop, the learning part. Everyday,
something.......Schools, they are what they are.
It's what you choose to get from it all, & how you
apply yourself. I've hired guys from both schools of
thought. Real schools, & "in the field-n-trenches"
schools. Which is best or better, again it's up to you,
& what may be expected from you. Schools are controlled.
It's good for what it is, yet I feel you need both nowadays.
One thing's for sure, be a sponge. Ask questions. The more the
better. Every top guy or girl has broken bolts, made mistakes,
& yet they've all learned from it all. Sure it takes time.
When am I ready, you'll say or ask?
Ready comes when it happens, & if it comes, let it happen!
Being scared is normal, yet again, all the best have been in
that same spot. Chill, slow down, think it through, don't panic,
& you'll be fine. Experience takes time! Enjoy the ride!
Dave O.Wink





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