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Let me get this straight? We're suing the people that promote & provide us with races? Suing other racers? Suing the Sponsors?
Something happens on a RACE TRACK...a track worker runs across the track. Maybe a camera-man does. A rider cartwheels a triple. Two riders collide. A race dad punches another race dad. Etc., etc., etc. ...
Then, you get what we have with Josh Lichtle: a rider dies while racing.
One of the saddest days I can think of at a National.
I truly don't understand how we don't realize that THIS IS MOTOCROSS RACING.
Worse, yet? In the vast majority of these cases, it's some sort of self-inflicted injury...or worse...
As I've said, else-where.
It's all just Sad.
Something happens on a RACE TRACK...a track worker runs across the track. Maybe a camera-man does. A rider cartwheels a triple. Two riders collide. A race dad punches another race dad. Etc., etc., etc. ...
Then, you get what we have with Josh Lichtle: a rider dies while racing.
One of the saddest days I can think of at a National.
I truly don't understand how we don't realize that THIS IS MOTOCROSS RACING.
Worse, yet? In the vast majority of these cases, it's some sort of self-inflicted injury...or worse...
As I've said, else-where.
It's all just Sad.
Back on track though... the sense of personal responsibility is all but gone nowadays but what is on the rise is the sense of entitlement .
I really dislike the insurance industry, in general. There are some good people who are in insurance, but the way they have a grip on our justice and health systems really bothers me.
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Everyone should have the right to sue; without it, many problems could go unchecked.
Anytime someone sues someone else (or some entity), they are suing someone who provided them a service (or disservice), so your argument that they provide the track doesn't make much sense. That is literally in the requirement of a suit, that a service (or disservice) took place.
Yes it is motorcycle racing, and it is dangerous, but that doesn't mean the entities in charge have no responsibility to reduce that danger. If their suit can prove other parties were acting irresponsibly, then they should be held accountable. It doesn't matter that you don't think they can prove it, they have every right to tell their story. And in the end, if they can't show their suit has merit, they won't get a dime.
I'm quite sure you mean to Imply that the suing parties are "reasonable".
I agree with the OP. Nothing other than sorrow associated with this event.
That said, some sort of basic system that made the person doing the entity sueing responsible for some level of the defendents cost if the person sueing lost, would greatly reduce the number of frivolous lawsuits.
I had a fellow try to sue me because he ran across the tracks and my buddy landed square on top of him. He was riding my bike so that put me responsible. They guy lost the settlement, but still, crazy stuff happens these days.
I've also had to sue someone for the first time in my entire life. An unhappy neighboring land owner exhausted all legal measures of shutting our facility down. At this time they asked if we would consider selling. We negotiated a lease buyout, and agreements were made for them to purchase the land (we were just tired of fighting). Earlier this month they executed 6 of 7 provisions in our contract and gave us a 30 day notice to be off the property. They claim we've broken our lease by having a large burn / brush pile.
Pit Row
That was a sad day for the sport and an equally sad one when lawsuits were filed. Good way to drag Josh's name through the dirt.
Oh, and many insurance companies do suck. Newmann out.
You can always give the insurance business a go, and try out the "always pay up" hypothesis. Add on a mild estimate of 10% increase in fraud towards your company as the risk of getting caught is zero, as you will always pay up. Good luck
our system is really fucked up, I could sue you tomorrow for a story I made up and it would cost us each thousands and there would be nothing you could do about it unless you sued me back. pretty fucked up.
IMO this is nothing more than a money grab by some party, it will all settle out of court because it will be cheaper than paying attorney fees.
The Indians had it right. Any Issues. Just talk it out while sitting around a camp fire, smoking pipes
"What goes around comes around". Only winners of any law suit is the lawyers
People saying other moto people don't sue ? one of the top riders in the Sport throws it out there every time something happens.
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