Ken Roczen

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Edited Date/Time 2/23/2015 7:35am
Ken should of never left Aldon. Ever since he left he hasn't looked the same and he can't keep it on two wheels. I think he just cost himself a championship...
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thank you captain obvious.
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2/21/2015 7:24pm Edited Date/Time 2/21/2015 7:47pm
I think the aldon thing is a stretch, being a rookie in the big boy class imo is a much better (and more likely) excuse

Edit- ya, not a rookie, but 20 years young and still has plenty of time to mature on a 450
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Skippie 2/21/2015 7:24pm
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gt80rider wrote:
I think the aldon thing is a stretch, being a rookie in the big boy class imo is a much better (and more likely) excuse Edit-...
I think the aldon thing is a stretch, being a rookie in the big boy class imo is a much better (and more likely) excuse

Edit- ya, not a rookie, but 20 years young and still has plenty of time to mature on a 450
This is his second year.
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This is Ken's second year on the 450.

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------Is a Hard core MOFO!
Fuck all the NAYsayers
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gt80rider wrote:
I think the aldon thing is a stretch, being a rookie in the big boy class imo is a much better (and more likely) excuse Edit-...
I think the aldon thing is a stretch, being a rookie in the big boy class imo is a much better (and more likely) excuse

Edit- ya, not a rookie, but 20 years young and still has plenty of time to mature on a 450
Already burned that one last year.
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DownSouth 2/21/2015 7:29pm
2/21/2015 7:29pm Edited Date/Time 2/21/2015 7:31pm
Lots of folks were ready to hand over the championship to Kenny after round 3.

It seems the theory that Roczen is so solid and never makes mistakes was in hindsight a bit incorrect. Big drop off since his hot start to the series.

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Gabriel J 2/21/2015 7:30pm
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DJL219 wrote:
Ken should of never left Aldon. Ever since he left he hasn't looked the same and he can't keep it on two wheels. I think he...
Ken should of never left Aldon. Ever since he left he hasn't looked the same and he can't keep it on two wheels. I think he just cost himself a championship...
Yep. Totally agree. Any other insanely accurate insight you would like to share with us?
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It's not like he hadn't crashed when he was with Aldon... He's had some shitty luck, it's why the SX title is the hardest in the world to win imo. 17 rounds of fucking luck.

I think if leaving Aldon did anything, it was give Dungey a confidence boost. That would have been worth the cheque to me, keep that fucker guessing.
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dirtnapper 2/21/2015 7:31pm
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DownSouth wrote:
Lots of folks were ready to hand over the championship to Kenny after round 3. It seems the theory that Roczen is so solid and never...
Lots of folks were ready to hand over the championship to Kenny after round 3.

It seems the theory that Roczen is so solid and never makes mistakes was in hindsight a bit incorrect. Big drop off since his hot start to the series.

Quite like last year.

Kenny can win races, NO QUESTION, but I think it might a few more years until he can put a season together and actually make a run at a SX championship.
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hammertime 2/21/2015 7:32pm
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Man that kids tough!
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Dungey has learned ( very well ) how to put a series together, Dude is SOLID. All. The. Time.
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Have to agree - I think over time the little mistakes are adding up and he's lost a little confidence.. Although I would love to see Kenny win it as I think he is the most talented rider out there.. RD5 has this championships wrapped up imo.. Too consistent!

Tomac and roczen with a little bit of consistency/luck are the men to beat.. But until then.. RD5
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jonesaustin 2/21/2015 7:46pm
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dirtnapper wrote:
Dungey has learned ( very well ) how to put a series together, Dude is SOLID. All. The. Time.
he's also faster than ever. the work (and championship sacrifice to build that bike and brand) has paid off. as i've said, if villopoto came back next year, he'd face a different dungey.
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GMalzee 2/21/2015 7:50pm
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I would think switching teams has more to do with it than 3 weeks after switching trainers does.
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kiwifan 2/21/2015 7:52pm
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Hmmm i think Aldon just gave him the confidence, he doesnt 'seem' to have that right now?
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Another fucking thread on this?
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John250 2/21/2015 8:47pm
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Look at Roczens history......He has always struggled in the 2nd half of a series. Huge mistake leaving KTM and DeCoster.

Anyone else notice that Dungeys bike seems to track the smoothest and straightest through the whoops? No one elses bike looks as good as his for sure.

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struth 2/21/2015 8:59pm
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Dungey said himself he was losing time in whoops to pieck, he might look smooth but I don't think he was the fastest in whoops. Tonight.
neverwasfastenuf 2/21/2015 9:08pm
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hammertime wrote:
Man that kids tough!
No kidding, he couldn't have found anything harder to hit in practice than that wall and his crash in the race was Stewart style. Good thing he is young.
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DJL219 wrote:
Ken should of never left Aldon. Ever since he left he hasn't looked the same and he can't keep it on two wheels. I think he...
Ken should of never left Aldon. Ever since he left he hasn't looked the same and he can't keep it on two wheels. I think he just cost himself a championship...
Maybe, but could be coincidence also.

Either way dude showed he is tough as nails tonight.
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bsharkey 2/21/2015 9:09pm
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lets see aldon take a no name to the top then ill be convinced hes something really great. most of his riders have always been champions. right now roczens just doing what he always has, time will tell if he can regroup and pull it back together. Rv did call it about dungey as his pick as the winner this year though
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davistld01 2/21/2015 9:38pm
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Roczen has speed & youthful enthusiasm...which sometimes bites him on the ass.

Dungey has "racecraft".
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markit 2/21/2015 9:38pm
2/21/2015 9:38pm Edited Date/Time 2/21/2015 9:41pm
He left a solid factory team he was winning on to go to a new unproven B team, what could go wrong with that?
It's going to cost him at least a year.
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Skippie 2/21/2015 9:43pm
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markit wrote:
He left a solid factory team he was winning on to go to a new unproven B team, what could go wrong with that? It's going...
He left a solid factory team he was winning on to go to a new unproven B team, what could go wrong with that?
It's going to cost him at least a year.
I wouldn't call a full factory team a "B" team but ok.
crusty_xx 2/21/2015 10:31pm
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DJL219 wrote:
Ken should of never left Aldon. Ever since he left he hasn't looked the same and he can't keep it on two wheels. I think he...
Ken should of never left Aldon. Ever since he left he hasn't looked the same and he can't keep it on two wheels. I think he just cost himself a championship...
Ken separated with aldon last year ins december. He wasnt that bad in january...
I think it has to do with his oakland Crash. Kinda like after his millville crash he just does weird things. Almost went down a couple of times in the heat race in arlington as well.
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Ninurta 2/21/2015 10:50pm
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He will come out swinging next week (if not the weeks to come) if he can get a decent start. I know it's the same old story but it's just fact. Look at Reedy! He's been struggling all season, get's a great start and BAM!
As long as he can forget those crashes and focus on what's to come (barring injury Pinch ) he'll be just fine.
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I heard he changed his breakfast cereal around the same time, I believe that has more to do with his recent downturn.
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John250 wrote:
Look at Roczens history......He has always struggled in the 2nd half of a series. Huge mistake leaving KTM and DeCoster. Anyone else notice that Dungeys bike...
Look at Roczens history......He has always struggled in the 2nd half of a series. Huge mistake leaving KTM and DeCoster.

Anyone else notice that Dungeys bike seems to track the smoothest and straightest through the whoops? No one elses bike looks as good as his for sure.
Yes.
new bike, new trainer, new team no RDC. What could go wrong? He's just a young kid, too.
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Jeremy200 2/21/2015 11:37pm
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DJL219 wrote:
Ken should of never left Aldon. Ever since he left he hasn't looked the same and he can't keep it on two wheels. I think he...
Ken should of never left Aldon. Ever since he left he hasn't looked the same and he can't keep it on two wheels. I think he just cost himself a championship...
using this logic please explain AC46.

This spot is tough and can bite anyone anytime

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