Interesting stuff in Racerhead #16

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500guy wrote:
WTF

Passing a drug test should be easy for a top athlete unless is PED's

Someone needs to get this kid some help.
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This is a huge problem for many people on probation that like Marijuana. It is fat soluble so it takes much longer to get out of...
This is a huge problem for many people on probation that like Marijuana. It is fat soluble so it takes much longer to get out of your system. So many people switch to coke or meth or pain meds. so they can clean up much easier for a drug test. I have seen it many times before. You need to study for at least 3 days to pass a MJ test.
gt80rider wrote:
guess you've never heard of K2???? perfectly legal in most areas of the country (although most areas that know it exists are trying to ban it)...
guess you've never heard of K2???? perfectly legal in most areas of the country (although most areas that know it exists are trying to ban it).... it's pretty much what every pot smoker that doesn't want to get busted smokes... 3 oz for 30 bucks in most areas, synthetic pot...
I'll stick to my KB's. Cool
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4/17/2010 6:31am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 10:11pm
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I have always been an off and on heavy pot smoker. Tried riding a few times with it and just couldn't really flow with it. Makes...
I have always been an off and on heavy pot smoker. Tried riding a few times with it and just couldn't really flow with it. Makes you out of shape also.

I'm in a love hate relationship with drugs. I have anxiety and whatever the hell else doctors diagnose me with. Been on so many drugs-legal and non legal. Hell even rode on lithium once-that shit makes you out of it.

I'm coming off a 5 month everyday habit of weed and got some painkillers and been taking them everyday for 3 weeks now instead. I didn't really have any withdrawals on the weed but after 2 weeks of taking painkillers from a root canal then running out I was jonesing real bad and already feeling withdrawals from just 5 to 7.5 hydrocodone a day-pretty low dose. Went to my ent and scored some more. I am wired writing this right now on them because I can't sleep.

I don't know if I like the weed or painkillers better. I know I feel like shit either way whether I'm sober or not so I self medicate. Weed has it's ups and downs. I tend to be in a much better mood and not as grumpy. Painkillers are more numbing and I'm a little more grumpy. I do get that paranoia with the weed also if I smoke too much. I tend to gain weight on the painkillers also. Remember ron-ron and the weight he put on? Not saying the pain killers did that to him but I've already gained 2 pounds in the last 3 weeks on them and my eating habits haven't changed. When I had a habit about 7 years ago I gained about 30 pounds. I think they slow down the heart rate and metabolism. With weed my heart rate always get over 100 after smoking for about 30 minutes.

I like the weed but it has it's ups and downs. I never rode that well when high and never really felt like riding to be honest but I would play the shit out of some reflex and do real well when playing high. Don't play as well on the painkillers though. They kind of fuzz me out a little more and blank my mind where the weed get's my mind thinking more but hate that paranoid feeling so I have to watch my intake. The withdrawals and jonesing feeling suck ass on painkillers.

Do any of you guys self-medicate do help depression/anxiety/etc.? I know alcohol is popular but I just don't go there. I remember the best I felt in a while was when I was on a high dose of paxil. I was riding all the time and racing but man I was manic, agitated alot. A real asshole. Now I take lexapro, valium as always and lately been self medicating with weed and now painkillers.

Sorry to go off topic and long post but I can see why some self-medicate. I also know I have a very addictive behavior and problems with drugs. When I was not taking anything i was constantly going to the doc trying different anti-depressants, off label drugs to help and just couldn't find anything. Doctor finally told me there's nothing more I can do unless they come out with something new. Pretty frustrating.


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Dude, I would say you need help. Why don't you try to stay straight for a while. There is a show on TLC every Wednesday night...
Dude, I would say you need help. Why don't you try to stay straight for a while. There is a show on TLC every Wednesday night. Its called addiction. You should watch it.
I've been straight for quite some time over the years but I do self-medicate on and off. Well I have been straight except for what the doc gives me which is usually an anti-depressant and a benzo such as valium or klonopin which I never abused but am dependant on.. There are times when I self medicate with weed. Painkillers are definitely my weakness and I feel that drug behavior when I'm around them such as the cravings.


It's the anxiety, ocd, and depression man and if I had a legal pharm drug that worked and tolerated better than I would probably be on it. For me it's lexapro and valium and that's the best I can do right now with what we have in meds today. Trust me I've tried others. Been on all the ssri's, all the benzo's, off label shit like mood stabilizers. Even ordered an anti-depressant from another country -Stablon(made me out of it) to see if that would work.


To me weed and the painkillers is just another way to treat my anxiety/depression. I tell you what though the weed probably helps the most with my mood to level me out it seems but it has side effects also-mostly paranoia with me. The painkillers just numb me and make me little out of it. The legal drugs like the anti-depressants have there own host of side effects and of course the benzo's like valium which I am dependent on-not addicted-I have been on for 15 years yet they hand that out like candy no problem.


So it's just a toss up. If I was in the 1950's they would be prescribing me opiates right now most likely or shock treatment Smile. That was the treatment back then.


Not trying to justify anything-just saying I know I have "drug issues" but I also have anxiety, ocd, depression that just get damn tiring sometimes and need an escape or some relief. Weed and painkillers aren't a cure all by any means but they help sometimes just like the legal shit.


I do function-at least to date for the last 15 years since this anxiety problem came about by using cocaine, x, etc. Might have been pre-disposed to it anyways because I remember as a kid having ocd and anxiety but didn't realize it until I was older and my parents didn't pick up on it.


Again-I know from the outside looking in it looks like I have a drug problem and I probably do but I am also just looking for a way to treat how I feel. I have managed to still go to work, get married, take care of a house, make money, ride my dirt bike, hangout with friends and family. I'm just a little high when I do it sometimes and nobody is usually non the wiser because I don't try and get blasted-just enough to calm me a little. Even when I was sober and just taking what doctor ordered I would be out of it as well. It's a hot topic and many people self-medicate. Guess that's why they want weed legal.


Sorry again for long winded post. Just felt like I needed to clear up my situation a little better. If I told you guys I was on doctor's orders for 4 or 5 different meds then you wouldn't say nothing but I mention weed and painkillers for some relief and I have a drug problem which is somewhat correct. Smile
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[denial]"Sorry again for long winded post. Just felt like I needed to clear up my situation a little better. If I told you guys I was on doctor's orders for 4 or 5 different meds then you wouldn't say nothing but I mention weed and painkillers for some relief and I have a drug problem which is somewhat correct. "[/denial]

We say if you're taking 5-8 hydro 500s a day as a self-prescribed substitute for pot to 'treat' your anxiety then there is no 'somewhat' or 'probably' about it.

And this is a moto-board, not group.

Seek professional help now.

And who the hell is this 'J-Law' of which everyone speaks? Should I know him?

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4/17/2010 7:12am
If you are going to self medicate, you probably should stick to the stuff that grows out of the ground, and avoid all the shit that's made in a laboratory.
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If you are going to self medicate, you probably should stick to the stuff that grows out of the ground, and avoid all the shit that's...
If you are going to self medicate, you probably should stick to the stuff that grows out of the ground, and avoid all the shit that's made in a laboratory.
Opiates grow out of the ground. lol

Okay back on J-law. Sorry guys. Whenever weed or something comes up I get all personal and shit. Sorry.
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Opiates grow out of the ground. lol

Okay back on J-law. Sorry guys. Whenever weed or something comes up I get all personal and shit. Sorry.
I love me some poppies.
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I tried riding once when I was all jacked-up on Flintstone vitamins. I think I had taken two Wilma's and a Barney. I thought I was riding really good, until someone pointed out that I was just watching the races on TV.

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I tried riding once when I was all jacked-up on Flintstone vitamins. I think I had taken two Wilma's and a Barney. I thought I was...
I tried riding once when I was all jacked-up on Flintstone vitamins. I think I had taken two Wilma's and a Barney. I thought I was riding really good, until someone pointed out that I was just watching the races on TV.

Those Flinstones are some hard core shit. My pee was yellow for a whole day. Smile
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Opiates grow out of the ground. lol

Okay back on J-law. Sorry guys. Whenever weed or something comes up I get all personal and shit. Sorry.
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I love me some poppies.
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[img]http://www.whale.to/b/opium-poppy.jpg[/img]
Somebodies garden is going to take a big hit when i go to town here in a bit. Silly
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I tried riding once when I was all jacked-up on Flintstone vitamins. I think I had taken two Wilma's and a Barney. I thought I was...
I tried riding once when I was all jacked-up on Flintstone vitamins. I think I had taken two Wilma's and a Barney. I thought I was riding really good, until someone pointed out that I was just watching the races on TV.

Another gem.
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level, how did you get wired on hydrocodine, if anything it should make you tired
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4/17/2010 10:30am
To each their own. I popped a few percocet before riding one day, and I rode like garbage for a majority of my time at the track. I'm sure I'd do no better, if not worse, if I had inhaled before riding. But I know it's the opposite for others. Just depends I guess.
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level, how did you get wired on hydrocodine, if anything it should make you tired
Some people get energizing effects from them. Just depends. Some people don't react real well period because of nausea, etc.. Sometimes I do get tired. Other times I get a little energy. Not real sure why. I know an ex cancer patient and when he takes vicodin or percs he gets a bunch of energy. I tend to get more tired on them when they wear off for some reason. Brain chemistry, what you eat, other drugs your taking probably all have something to do with it also.

I remember someone saying something about Ron Ron being on pain killers when he gave Bubba a run at a Supercross years back in the 125 class.

Also, sometimes weed will make me real sleepy and sometimes give me energy. Really don't know why.
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a lot of riders have glaucoma!
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I am the same way level, i get wired from 'em.

I can fully relate what you are going through man, i have been popping percs like Tic Tacs for going on 5 years now, but not by choice, i need that back surgery i have been talking about putting off all this time. And in the past have been through some pretty heavy addictions after my accident over the years, Went from booze, to a really bad speed habit, i was a BIG mess for a long long time, but have been clean off that for almsot 15 years. I now have a pill problem, but at this time i dont have much of a choice until i get my spine fixed.

If you are ever having a hard time and need someone to talk to, im here for ya man.
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I tried riding once when I was all jacked-up on Flintstone vitamins. I think I had taken two Wilma's and a Barney. I thought I was...
I tried riding once when I was all jacked-up on Flintstone vitamins. I think I had taken two Wilma's and a Barney. I thought I was riding really good, until someone pointed out that I was just watching the races on TV.

Laughing
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4/17/2010 11:39am
Jlaw wasn't in jail long enough to get clean.JMHO
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4/17/2010 11:42am
Some of you are missing the point. Nobody said he smokes weed now and even if he did, who cares? It just isn't a big deal.
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I am the same way level, i get wired from 'em. I can fully relate what you are going through man, i have been popping percs...
I am the same way level, i get wired from 'em.

I can fully relate what you are going through man, i have been popping percs like Tic Tacs for going on 5 years now, but not by choice, i need that back surgery i have been talking about putting off all this time. And in the past have been through some pretty heavy addictions after my accident over the years, Went from booze, to a really bad speed habit, i was a BIG mess for a long long time, but have been clean off that for almsot 15 years. I now have a pill problem, but at this time i dont have much of a choice until i get my spine fixed.

If you are ever having a hard time and need someone to talk to, im here for ya man.
Thanks man.
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4/17/2010 11:58am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 10:11pm
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Opiates grow out of the ground. lol

Okay back on J-law. Sorry guys. Whenever weed or something comes up I get all personal and shit. Sorry.
Don't ever be sorry....ever. Go get help somehow, someway please.


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Jlaw and Randy seperated...how did we spin off on pot smoking and addiction? Maybe it was Randy's fault for the split. Takes two to have a disagreement.
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Jlaw and Randy seperated...how did we spin off on pot smoking and addiction? Maybe it was Randy's fault for the split. Takes two to have a...
Jlaw and Randy seperated...how did we spin off on pot smoking and addiction? Maybe it was Randy's fault for the split. Takes two to have a disagreement.
X2......... No matter how thin you pour a pancake, it still has two sides.Wink
4/17/2010 12:14pm
Pills are bad news, so addicting.
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4/17/2010 12:27pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 10:11pm
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Opiates grow out of the ground. lol

Okay back on J-law. Sorry guys. Whenever weed or something comes up I get all personal and shit. Sorry.
andymoto wrote:
Don't ever be sorry....ever. Go get help somehow, someway please.


Already did. Doc just wants to put me on more meds or tell me there's nothing more he can do. Been to therapy, hypnosis, etc. Why do you think I self-medicate? I know your trying to help but I been at this for 15 years. Don't really look to get completely blasted but just to feel somewhat normal and better. If I wanted to get wasted I would just go buy some booze or pop 5 pills instead of a half of one or take several of hundreds of benzo's I have lying around I have been prescribed. I have a freakin pharmacy in my closet.


Sure the buzz is desirable a little but more just to alleviate some anxiety/depression and I've tried the right way.


if you have ever been on ssri's, benzo's, or even allegra or zyrtec or benadryl you get weird on them too. I was up for 2 days on clarinex and had to go home from allegra. Felt weird as shit on them.


Bottom line all drugs have there ups and downs-legal or not-and have side effects. Shit so does food. Just trying to find one that works for me. However, I do know where your coming from and I appreciate the concer. I know I have had past drug problems so I have to be real cautious and catch myself. It's a battle at times. I feel like shit sober and get worried about doing illegal drugs to feel better because of over doing it or being messed up or becoming addicted so I totally understand what your saying.


I can function to date-I manage a large company and do normal shit like everyone else but I just feel like shit most the time and it brings me down. That's when the self-medicating starts coming in. I was a real asshole when I was just taken high dose of ssri's and benzo that doctor gave me and to offset that he wanted to give me a mood stabilizer. Just wanted to keep adding meds. So you can see the frustration on my end.


Some drugs work better than others but still haven't found that magic cure and probably never will. It's not all as bad as it seems but yeah I get scared of the addiction, especially the pain killers. Well weed also especially getting pulled over with it on me.


Guess just trying to find something that works-that's all. I don't drink though. Have enough drugs I already take but doesn't mean I wouldn't mind getting drunk every now and then with my group of friends. They probably all think I'm weird. I'm high and they don't even know and there getting drunk as shit wondering why I'm not drinking. Smile
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P.S.

Would just like to add I know this thread got way off topic and I should be talking about this in non-moto or some other board but just felt like venting. That's all.
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Pills are bad news, so addicting.
Some more than others. That's for sure. I have prescribed so many benzo's and I haven't abused them to date-just to alleviate anxiety and try to stay at low dose. I would really rather not take them but just not really anything out there to treat anxiety except ssri which I take also. Painkillers I jones for though. Benzo's I just take to treat anxiety and pretty much ward off withdrawals but I don't really crave them or not to date at least. But I have become dependant on them which is different than addicted to them.
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It's not as uncommon as many people think for athletes to perform better using the calming effects of the sweet leaf. I used to be dead set against it, but then life circumstances changed and my eyes have been opened to how many people benefit from it, and how many lies and myths surround it.

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i self medicate, when im constipated ill drink budweiser and it cleans me right out!

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