Hmm. How does this happen?

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2/25/2020 1:37 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/25/2020 1:39 PM

Riders are supposed to line up in the center of their metal grid. There are officials who check to make sure they're set up like that after the parade lap.

After the races on Saturday night, there were a trio of officials checking out this spot on the gate. Every other pad had one rut out of the gate, instead of three. It looks like someone has figured out a way to nudge left or right before it drops.

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2/25/2020 1:42 PM

Nobody to the right or left

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2/25/2020 1:42 PM

GuyB wrote:

Riders are supposed to line up in the center of their metal grid. There are officials who check to make sure they're set up like that after the parade lap.

After the races on Saturday night, there were a trio of officials checking out this spot on the gate. Every other pad had one rut out of the gate, instead of three. It looks like someone has figured out a way to nudge left or right before it drops.

lets go to the tape!

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2/25/2020 1:43 PM

Training wheels?

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2/25/2020 1:44 PM

Sneaky rascals, good for them Wonder how blown out of proportion this will get.

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2/25/2020 1:51 PM

sumdood wrote:

Sneaky rascals, good for them Wonder how blown out of proportion this will get.

Or how many more sets of eyeballs there will be on the gate in Atlanta.

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2/25/2020 1:58 PM

I'm surprised the gate cop didn't catch that. If you sneeze too loud that guy will come up and unleash his fury.

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2/25/2020 1:59 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/25/2020 2:00 PM

Could also potentially be boots dragging from a taller rider. (Notice how the middle seems to have tread/ roost marks and the outers do not.)

Unless the same rider picked the same gate and did the magical shimmy, it looks like the two outer tracks are one gate drop a piece. The middle seems to have been the most widely used. 4 out of 6 times perhaps if my math is correct. haha

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2/25/2020 2:02 PM

Zaugg wrote:

Could also potentially be boots dragging from a taller rider. (Notice how the middle seems to have tread/ roost marks and the outers do not.)

Unless the same rider picked the same gate and did the magical shimmy, it looks like the two outer tracks are one gate drop a piece. The middle seems to have been the most widely used. 4 out of 6 times perhaps if my math is correct. haha

Only way boots are making those rutis if they’re actively digging them into the ground trying to stop the bike from moving.

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2/25/2020 2:05 PM


The cold handed official dude who walks by warming his hand on their mufflers should have caught that.
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Do It In The Dirt!

2/25/2020 2:11 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/25/2020 2:11 PM

sumdood wrote:

Sneaky rascals, good for them Wonder how blown out of proportion this will get.

GuyB wrote:

Or how many more sets of eyeballs there will be on the gate in Atlanta.

Maybe they can weld some little pipes for guides on there to force them into the middle like the car wash. I might be old school but I like the fact that a guy can figure out how to get a better jump than the next guy.

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2/25/2020 2:15 PM

Could be that the rut was so bad, the riders on that gate moved over as they were leaving the metal. It doesn't look so far over that you couldn't just "ride over" to one side or the other.
Is the starting gate at the top of that picture? It looks kind of like the ruts are converging at the top, like they all came from the same spot.

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Braaapin' aint easy.

2/25/2020 2:15 PM

Do they police them prior to the sight laps as well?

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2/25/2020 2:16 PM

You just know it's Barcia.

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2/25/2020 2:23 PM

MOTO1313 wrote:

You just know it's Barcia.

I bet that was somewhere in the #4-6 gates from left to right last weekend. Saw several riders spend a while staring at that hole. Could've been Tomac too though, he hung a pretty hard left right out of the gate in the last 2 mains.

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2/25/2020 2:23 PM

maybe when they go over the slippery acrylic plate on the gate, the back end slides a bit

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2/25/2020 2:27 PM

Somebody has a big set of nuts draggin Bro.

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United States of America

2/25/2020 2:32 PM

Brede wrote:

maybe when they go over the slippery acrylic plate on the gate, the back end slides a bit

So 21 gates have one rut, and one has three?

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2/25/2020 2:56 PM

psg119 wrote:

Do they police them prior to the sight laps as well?

I like your outside of the box thinking but what advantage would a rider have doing a practice start not knowing the condition of the rut for the start that actually matters?

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2/25/2020 2:56 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/25/2020 2:57 PM

Camp332 wrote:

Somebody has a big set of nuts draggin Bro.

Hahaha. Then there's probably someone who's dealing with chafing today.

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2/25/2020 2:57 PM

GuyB wrote:

Riders are supposed to line up in the center of their metal grid. There are officials who check to make sure they're set up like that after the parade lap.

After the races on Saturday night, there were a trio of officials checking out this spot on the gate. Every other pad had one rut out of the gate, instead of three. It looks like someone has figured out a way to nudge left or right before it drops.

That will give the ama something to study for the next year. You know they are on top of the things that really matters.

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2/25/2020 2:59 PM

psg119 wrote:

Do they police them prior to the sight laps as well?

aFACEdismembered wrote:

I like your outside of the box thinking but what advantage would a rider have doing a practice start not knowing the condition of the rut for the start that actually matters?

I would think the advantage would be that you're not making the rut deeper by going through it for a practice start.

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2/25/2020 3:09 PM

No one can figure it out from the tape?? Who is the rider?

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2/25/2020 3:13 PM

Actually......this is interesting. Some how slipping 10" to the right , or the left off a metal grate. Whatever the case , i think it's pretty cool seeing as though , some guys have figured out how to avoid the rut out of the gate. I'd call that pretty smart and creative.

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2/25/2020 3:14 PM

Riders are bouncing around to different gates all night, right? Wouldn't be on the same gate in qualifying and in the heat as they would in the main?

So this gate had several launches up the middle, and one rider that launched from the left of center and another rider that launched from the right of center? On just this one gate? Or do they think one rider kept lining up on this gate and is responsible for both off-center starts?

They know what gate it was- should be easy to post mortem.

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2/25/2020 3:18 PM

Hman144 wrote:

Riders are bouncing around to different gates all night, right? Wouldn't be on the same gate in qualifying and in the heat as they would in the main?

So this gate had several launches up the middle, and one rider that launched from the left of center and another rider that launched from the right of center? On just this one gate? Or do they think one rider kept lining up on this gate and is responsible for both off-center starts?

They know what gate it was- should be easy to post mortem.

What the interesting point was , guys mentioned that there is an actual guy that controls the gate , to make sure the riders are lined up towards the middle of the gate. Which is why this pic is a little confusing.

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And there goes Jeffro. One of God's own prototypes. A super high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

Pimpin' Ho's , Rollin' fatty's......drinkin' beers , beers , beers!! ~ Ja

2/25/2020 3:19 PM

aeffertz wrote:

Only way boots are making those rutis if they’re actively digging them into the ground trying to stop the bike from moving.

I don't know...the heals on my SG12's are pretty sharp. I think I could scarify some boot marks on my starts...if I was tall enough.

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2/25/2020 3:24 PM

Just a guess, but it could be that a couple riders took off for their parade laps without being lined up perfectly and the dirt was just soft enough to leave those small ruts. During the actual starts, the riders probably took off on the center rut.

Or not.

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2/25/2020 3:24 PM

GuyB wrote:

Riders are supposed to line up in the center of their metal grid. There are officials who check to make sure they're set up like that after the parade lap.

After the races on Saturday night, there were a trio of officials checking out this spot on the gate. Every other pad had one rut out of the gate, instead of three. It looks like someone has figured out a way to nudge left or right before it drops.

GuyB, what would the advantage of being left or right of center be? Is it more about their angle and positioning into the straight away/first turn or is it more about the middle of the grid being worn/slightly smoothed out? Either way this is interesting.

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2/25/2020 3:26 PM

Didn’t Shane Mcelrath get a talking to about this the first race they introduced the start grate? I personally don’t have a problem with it as long as you’re behind your own gate and not crowding the person next to you. Pretty smart if you ask me.

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