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9/22/2020 8:35 AM
Edited Date/Time: 9/22/2020 8:41 AM

18 models. Six trials bikes, four minis (including an MC-E5), four full-size MX bikes (125, 250F, and 450 F), and a slew of off-road models.

Confirmed that TLD will handle the team, racing in both the 250 and 450 classes. Tyler Keefe will continue his role as Team Manager. No rider announcements as of yet.

There's a new website, http://www.gasgas.com/ (last I checked, it was struggling). Maybe give it a bit.

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9/22/2020 8:43 AM

So what does this mean for KTM and his factory 250 class team? Back under the Red Bull KTM tent or maybe run by the Rocky Mountain team?

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9/22/2020 8:47 AM
Edited Date/Time: 9/22/2020 8:49 AM

Was going to start a thread but I’ll add on here.

Their YouTube launch video went live 30 minutes ago:

- 125 and 250f have cast clamps:

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- 450 Was shown with SXS clamps and Akro system:
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- No Excel marks on any rims but they still have billet hubs

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Washed up moto and enduro weekend warrior.

9/22/2020 8:51 AM

No 350? That ends any talk of Barcia riding one.

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Current rides: 2016 KTM 250SXF, 2017 KTM 350SXF

9/22/2020 8:59 AM

MxKing809 wrote:

Was going to start a thread but I’ll add on here.

Their YouTube launch video went live 30 minutes ago:

- 125 and 250f have cast clamps:

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- 450 Was shown with SXS clamps and Akro system:
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- No Excel marks on any rims but they still have billet hubs

All the KTM hubs I’ve seen are cast. They just machine the middle so it’s shiny like a billet hub.

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9/22/2020 9:05 AM

250 and 450 models look to be $700-900 cheaper than KTM/Husky.

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9/22/2020 9:17 AM

MPJC wrote:

No 350? That ends any talk of Barcia riding one.

Why bring a knife to a gunfight?

Who realistically thought Barcia would ride a 350?

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9/22/2020 9:18 AM

Can someone make a list of differences in KTM/Husky/Gas Gas? The only thing I could see when comparing a 300xc and EX 300 was the triple clamps

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9/22/2020 9:22 AM

GG has Braktec hydraulics instead of Brembo. Braktec has been a standard on trials bikes, no idea how good their “normal” bike components are.

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9/22/2020 9:23 AM

The video shows what looks like a factory edition 450 with the exhaust and clamps (likely just showing off the accessories), but the actual production 450 uses forged clamps like the 250. They have solid mounted handlebars as well (yuck!), similar (identical?) to some of the KTM off-road stuff.

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9/22/2020 9:24 AM

Marcello10 wrote:

So what does this mean for KTM and his factory 250 class team? Back under the Red Bull KTM tent or maybe run by the Rocky Mountain team?

Max Vohland will be under the factory KTM tent. Possibly another.

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9/22/2020 9:25 AM

ccullins wrote:

GG has Braktec hydraulics instead of Brembo. Braktec has been a standard on trials bikes, no idea how good their “normal” bike components are.

They only said that on the enduro bikes. Looks like the MX and XC lines still have brembo/magura

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Washed up moto and enduro weekend warrior.

9/22/2020 9:26 AM

I called it a few weeks ago. 2021 GasGas in Sx will be Dungey, Mookie and Barcia.

Mark my words!

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9/22/2020 9:27 AM

MPJC wrote:

No 350? That ends any talk of Barcia riding one.

GuyB wrote:

Why bring a knife to a gunfight?

Who realistically thought Barcia would ride a 350?

It seemed to be a topic of discussion, though I doubt many took the idea that seriously.

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Current rides: 2016 KTM 250SXF, 2017 KTM 350SXF

9/22/2020 9:31 AM

When are the specs going to be released

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9/22/2020 9:32 AM

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Honda has got to be upset these clowns choose to make their bikes red.
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9/22/2020 10:23 AM

Three more colors to go then KTM will every color of bikes that are sold in the US. Who are they going to buy out next?

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9/22/2020 10:31 AM

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2015 Beta 500 RS, history: 99 KTM 300, 87 CR250, 84 KLR 600, 82 GPZ 550, 81 KX 250, 80 KX 250, 79 Montesa 414 VE, 78 250 VB, 77 360 VB, 76 360 VA, 75 YZ 125, 74 TM 125, 72 TS 125, 60's West Bend Go Boy Kart

9/22/2020 10:36 AM

gkerrofficial wrote:

I called it a few weeks ago. 2021 GasGas in Sx will be Dungey, Mookie and Barcia.

Mark my words!

Uhhhh.....No

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9/22/2020 10:40 AM
Edited Date/Time: 9/22/2020 10:57 AM

After a quick glance, the only "downgrade" is the forged clamps with solid mounts? If that is the case, the price is really good. 250F for 9k compared to 9690€ for the SXF and 9900€ for the FC here in Finland.

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9/22/2020 10:50 AM

I'm good with solid clamps. Then again, I run thick grips. cool

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Braaapin' aint easy.

9/22/2020 11:10 AM

BMc914 wrote: Photo
Honda has got to be upset these clowns choose to make their bikes red.

Nah. Brand association. Every joe schmo out there will call a GasGas a Honda for years to come.

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9/22/2020 11:23 AM

Motofinne wrote:

After a quick glance, the only "downgrade" is the forged clamps with solid mounts? If that is the case, the price is really good. 250F for 9k compared to 9690€ for the SXF and 9900€ for the FC here in Finland.

No tc, no maps, maxis tyre, cheap wheels...

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9/22/2020 11:34 AM

Motofinne wrote:

After a quick glance, the only "downgrade" is the forged clamps with solid mounts? If that is the case, the price is really good. 250F for 9k compared to 9690€ for the SXF and 9900€ for the FC here in Finland.

greg570 wrote:

No tc, no maps, maxis tyre, cheap wheels...

No "power bomb" 4t headers. No handguards or skidplates.

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2015 Beta 500 RS, history: 99 KTM 300, 87 CR250, 84 KLR 600, 82 GPZ 550, 81 KX 250, 80 KX 250, 79 Montesa 414 VE, 78 250 VB, 77 360 VB, 76 360 VA, 75 YZ 125, 74 TM 125, 72 TS 125, 60's West Bend Go Boy Kart

9/22/2020 11:38 AM

Motofinne wrote:

After a quick glance, the only "downgrade" is the forged clamps with solid mounts? If that is the case, the price is really good. 250F for 9k compared to 9690€ for the SXF and 9900€ for the FC here in Finland.

greg570 wrote:

No tc, no maps, maxis tyre, cheap wheels...

TC, not that useful in my opinion.

No maps? Well that is a bit of a bummer. I wonder if you can buy the upcoming mapping device that you can for the KTMs and Huskys?

Tires? Who cares, it's a wearing item either way.

Stock wheels (and pretty much all the other stock wheels) are never great. It seems like the GasGas hubs are the same as the other Austrian brands but the rims aren't DID or Excel branded?

Still a pretty decent deal in my opinion!

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9/22/2020 11:38 AM

I haven't seen pricing on these yet, but based on some of the comments about lower cost parts...

People have been clamoring for less expensive bikes for a long time. Is this a chance for a group to go from, say, "Ready to Race" to something along the lines of, "Ready to Ride?" If so, what's wrong with that?

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9/22/2020 11:54 AM
Edited Date/Time: 9/22/2020 11:56 AM

I hope TLD and Roger are giving Benny a hard look as he'd do well on a GasGas and needs a stable, quality ride to develop his program and consistency.

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9/22/2020 12:06 PM

The way the whole thing was explained to me was GG was going to ultimately be the "entry" lineup of KTM motorcycles.

They plan to utilize older tech parts and lower cost items to provide a lower cost machine that will meet the needs of probably 90% of people.

I like the idea personally. Imagine if KTM released the 2017 models side by side with their current 2021 models but at $1000 or $1500 less cost. This is what GG will essentially be doing in time. The 2021 GG models will likely be a blend of 2018-2019 tech and parts.

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9/22/2020 12:08 PM

GuyB wrote:

I haven't seen pricing on these yet, but based on some of the comments about lower cost parts...

People have been clamoring for less expensive bikes for a long time. Is this a chance for a group to go from, say, "Ready to Race" to something along the lines of, "Ready to Ride?" If so, what's wrong with that?

Because....

This...IS...VITAAALLLLLL

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9/22/2020 12:13 PM

WDSRCR wrote:

The way the whole thing was explained to me was GG was going to ultimately be the "entry" lineup of KTM motorcycles.

They plan to utilize older tech parts and lower cost items to provide a lower cost machine that will meet the needs of probably 90% of people.

I like the idea personally. Imagine if KTM released the 2017 models side by side with their current 2021 models but at $1000 or $1500 less cost. This is what GG will essentially be doing in time. The 2021 GG models will likely be a blend of 2018-2019 tech and parts.

There a quite a few guys that liked the older gen KTMs better than the new ones - they were much more suited for moto and soft conditions. The new frame is super precise and I bet some guys would get a new GasGas for that reason alone if it’s the last gen frames.

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Washed up moto and enduro weekend warrior.