Finish Line Crash from WSX

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I saw a video on Instagram of somebody landing on the side of the finish line ramp and dangling there. I can't find it anywhere. Did anyone else see it?
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scott_nz 10/24/2022 10:48am
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alphado wrote:
I saw a video on Instagram of somebody landing on the side of the finish line ramp and dangling there. I can't find it anywhere. Did...
I saw a video on Instagram of somebody landing on the side of the finish line ramp and dangling there. I can't find it anywhere. Did anyone else see it?
it was from the Australian SX round on Friday night,
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I think it was Tanti
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alphado wrote:
I saw a video on Instagram of somebody landing on the side of the finish line ramp and dangling there. I can't find it anywhere. Did...
I saw a video on Instagram of somebody landing on the side of the finish line ramp and dangling there. I can't find it anywhere. Did anyone else see it?
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alphado 10/24/2022 11:15am
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That's it, thanks for posting. Glad he is ok.
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JazzyJJ 10/24/2022 11:34am
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Just a little mishap, not like he fell two stories onto hard pack or anything
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alphado wrote:
I saw a video on Instagram of somebody landing on the side of the finish line ramp and dangling there. I can't find it anywhere. Did...
I saw a video on Instagram of somebody landing on the side of the finish line ramp and dangling there. I can't find it anywhere. Did anyone else see it?
I read on the interwebs, based on how well the metal ramp to finish line worked last weekend, World SMX will utilize the same next year. Little sketchy but Guess what, dirtbikes are dangerous. Go figure...

Sarcasm aside, that was one ugly crash and hope the promoter learned something. BTW are you alphado from back in the day on Motonews? Being a cheapskate, I only lurked but remember a few OGs like you and BobbyM.

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One more reason FIM need to have their Supercross sanction license removed.

Using metal in the track is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Its far more dangerous than dirt alone. Dirt can't pierce you, but edged metal certainly can.
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alphado wrote:
I saw a video on Instagram of somebody landing on the side of the finish line ramp and dangling there. I can't find it anywhere. Did...
I saw a video on Instagram of somebody landing on the side of the finish line ramp and dangling there. I can't find it anywhere. Did anyone else see it?
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I read on the interwebs, based on how well the metal ramp to finish line worked last weekend, World SMX will utilize the same next year...
I read on the interwebs, based on how well the metal ramp to finish line worked last weekend, World SMX will utilize the same next year. Little sketchy but Guess what, dirtbikes are dangerous. Go figure...

Sarcasm aside, that was one ugly crash and hope the promoter learned something. BTW are you alphado from back in the day on Motonews? Being a cheapskate, I only lurked but remember a few OGs like you and BobbyM.

That would be me.
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One more reason FIM need to have their Supercross sanction license removed. Using metal in the track is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Its far...
One more reason FIM need to have their Supercross sanction license removed.

Using metal in the track is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Its far more dangerous than dirt alone. Dirt can't pierce you, but edged metal certainly can.
Yea. Coz the ama has no over under overs that ppl have crashed into. No jumps over shipping contains in atlanta. Or spider cam wires that riders have jumped into. Not to mention concrete walls in tunnels that Craig got punted into
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Yea. Coz the ama has no over under overs that ppl have crashed into. No jumps over shipping contains in atlanta. Or spider cam wires that...
Yea. Coz the ama has no over under overs that ppl have crashed into. No jumps over shipping contains in atlanta. Or spider cam wires that riders have jumped into. Not to mention concrete walls in tunnels that Craig got punted into
None of your "what about the AMA" points changes the fact WSX dodged a big bullet at their 2nd race. Extremely lucky that course design lapse in judgment didn't seriously injure anyone.
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NorCalRedRyder 10/27/2022 12:03am
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It's a Supercross track. Things could go wrong on every part of the track. How was the metal take off ramp responsible for him jumping too far to the the right? It's racing, it's not a safe sport and shit could go sideways on any section of the track. I thought that was why we enjoyed it? A metal ramp is actually an advantage, the face of the jump doesn't change at any time during the races. Time for some guys here to turn in their man cards and bikes and go get a set of golf clubs. Some ofyou guy's are ridiculous.
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The ramp wasn't a problem. The over under thing (not being used as one) wasn't a problem. Where the landing area was with its sharp drop offs on either side was obviously the problem.

I don't remember ever seeing an AMA SX track (or National) that has a sharp drop off on either side of the landing area. If the promoters are going to make good on their promise to make the racing safer, they will have to use more common sense than they exhibited in Australia.
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The ramp wasn't a problem. The over under thing (not being used as one) wasn't a problem. Where the landing area was with its sharp drop...
The ramp wasn't a problem. The over under thing (not being used as one) wasn't a problem. Where the landing area was with its sharp drop offs on either side was obviously the problem.

I don't remember ever seeing an AMA SX track (or National) that has a sharp drop off on either side of the landing area. If the promoters are going to make good on their promise to make the racing safer, they will have to use more common sense than they exhibited in Australia.
Like this?
This is Cole Seeley flying off the side:



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Look at the rained on haybale above his head.
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The ramp wasn't a problem. The over under thing (not being used as one) wasn't a problem. Where the landing area was with its sharp drop...
The ramp wasn't a problem. The over under thing (not being used as one) wasn't a problem. Where the landing area was with its sharp drop offs on either side was obviously the problem.

I don't remember ever seeing an AMA SX track (or National) that has a sharp drop off on either side of the landing area. If the promoters are going to make good on their promise to make the racing safer, they will have to use more common sense than they exhibited in Australia.
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Like this? This is Cole Seeley flying off the side: [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/10/27/574769/s1200_AF647EC5_4952_4AD8_81F9_DACBCBFBEEC7.jpg[/img]
Like this?
This is Cole Seeley flying off the side:



The difference is Cole Seely "only" had the momentum of the ramp of the over under when he went over and wasn't dropping out of the sky from a metal ramp.
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onewheelwheaties 10/28/2022 7:00am
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2009 St Louis SX track that Pastrana designed had the riders landing on the over/under to use as an on/off table.

I know freestyle isn't racing but their standard landing ramp setups are pretty much just the downside of the over/under:



There seems to be plenty of precedence for WSX landing ramp setup, and as far as I know none of the riders have had complaints about it.
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One more reason FIM need to have their Supercross sanction license removed. Using metal in the track is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Its far...
One more reason FIM need to have their Supercross sanction license removed.

Using metal in the track is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Its far more dangerous than dirt alone. Dirt can't pierce you, but edged metal certainly can.
We’d better ban those footpegs then.
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The ramp wasn't a problem. The over under thing (not being used as one) wasn't a problem. Where the landing area was with its sharp drop...
The ramp wasn't a problem. The over under thing (not being used as one) wasn't a problem. Where the landing area was with its sharp drop offs on either side was obviously the problem.

I don't remember ever seeing an AMA SX track (or National) that has a sharp drop off on either side of the landing area. If the promoters are going to make good on their promise to make the racing safer, they will have to use more common sense than they exhibited in Australia.
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Like this? This is Cole Seeley flying off the side: [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/10/27/574769/s1200_AF647EC5_4952_4AD8_81F9_DACBCBFBEEC7.jpg[/img]
Like this?
This is Cole Seeley flying off the side:



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The difference is Cole Seely "only" had the momentum of the ramp of the over under when he went over and wasn't dropping out of the...
The difference is Cole Seely "only" had the momentum of the ramp of the over under when he went over and wasn't dropping out of the sky from a metal ramp.
Pretty sure when he went off the side the over was being used as an on-off section, pretty sketchy

And I guess we’re forgetting about Kyle partridges foot from the over and under
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Pretty sure when he went off the side the over was being used as an on-off section, pretty sketchy And I guess we’re forgetting about Kyle...
Pretty sure when he went off the side the over was being used as an on-off section, pretty sketchy

And I guess we’re forgetting about Kyle partridges foot from the over and under
None of the examples you've given involved a metal ramp with a landing area on an over under type structure.
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Pretty sure when he went off the side the over was being used as an on-off section, pretty sketchy And I guess we’re forgetting about Kyle...
Pretty sure when he went off the side the over was being used as an on-off section, pretty sketchy

And I guess we’re forgetting about Kyle partridges foot from the over and under
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None of the examples you've given involved a metal ramp with a landing area on an over under type structure.
Your own words from a comment above: “ The ramp wasn't a problem. The over under thing (not being used as one) wasn't a problem.“
Make your mind up dude.
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CPR wrote:
Your own words from a comment above: “ The ramp wasn't a problem. The over under thing (not being used as one) wasn't a problem.“ Make...
Your own words from a comment above: “ The ramp wasn't a problem. The over under thing (not being used as one) wasn't a problem.“
Make your mind up dude.
Leaving my last sentence off changed the context dude. Where the landing area was with its sharp drop offs on either side was obviously the problem.

Pretty self-explanatory but let me know if you're still confused.
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CPR wrote:
Your own words from a comment above: “ The ramp wasn't a problem. The over under thing (not being used as one) wasn't a problem.“ Make...
Your own words from a comment above: “ The ramp wasn't a problem. The over under thing (not being used as one) wasn't a problem.“
Make your mind up dude.
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Leaving my last sentence off changed the context dude. [b]Where the landing area was with its sharp drop offs on either side was obviously the problem.[/b]...
Leaving my last sentence off changed the context dude. Where the landing area was with its sharp drop offs on either side was obviously the problem.

Pretty self-explanatory but let me know if you're still confused.
Yep still confused because I gave you an example of an AMA landing with drop off sides and you said none of the examples involve a metal ramp or over- under landing area, but also said that wasn’t the issue?
You keep changing the goal posts whenever proven incorrect.
Why don’t you just admit the real reason for criticising is that it’s not AMA?
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None of your "what about the AMA" points changes the fact WSX dodged a big bullet at their 2nd race. Extremely lucky that course design lapse...
None of your "what about the AMA" points changes the fact WSX dodged a big bullet at their 2nd race. Extremely lucky that course design lapse in judgment didn't seriously injure anyone.
So your problem is with the structure where over two nights of racing ONE guy crashed and wasn't injured?
Even though it was probably the worst case scenario of a crash on that structure

Seems to me they didn't 'dodge a bullet' they dodged a nerf ball when no one else crashed on it over two full nights of racing
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The ONLY reason a metal ramp was there was for the FMX sideshow. If that’s a good reason to have it on a SX track then so be it but it’s a horrible reason if you’re being honest. This asshole point about it remaining constant and not rutting up I respond to by asking why not use a metal ramp for every other jump in the track then? I’m pretty sure the guys defending it would think every jump being metal would be idiotic. I think. Then agsin, it dies hollow youre logic in defending it. And the finish line jump is the least likely to get rutted up and worn out. But keep defending it.
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The ONLY reason a metal ramp was there was for the FMX sideshow. If that’s a good reason to have it on a SX track then...
The ONLY reason a metal ramp was there was for the FMX sideshow. If that’s a good reason to have it on a SX track then so be it but it’s a horrible reason if you’re being honest. This asshole point about it remaining constant and not rutting up I respond to by asking why not use a metal ramp for every other jump in the track then? I’m pretty sure the guys defending it would think every jump being metal would be idiotic. I think. Then agsin, it dies hollow youre logic in defending it. And the finish line jump is the least likely to get rutted up and worn out. But keep defending it.
The reason for the metal ramp was NOT for the freestyle show they used a proper freestyle ramp off to the side
I don't know the reason for using the metal ramp but there seems to be no reason to not use it..

Also the problem seems to be with landing not the takeoff
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RaceFace58 10/29/2022 12:16am
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There’s no reason to use it. There are lots of reasons not to. First would be if it rains it’s like ice. See the Red Bull straight rhythm where it rained and guys were spinning out on the start (a downhill ramp). 2md if someone crashes onto it it’s completely dangerous as it’s steel with sharp edges. Riders said that the dirt before it may have worn down and that may be where Roczen flattened his tire. There are lots of reasons for a metal ramp to not be on any SX track anywhere.
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There’s no reason to use it. There are lots of reasons not to. First would be if it rains it’s like ice. See the Red Bull...
There’s no reason to use it. There are lots of reasons not to. First would be if it rains it’s like ice. See the Red Bull straight rhythm where it rained and guys were spinning out on the start (a downhill ramp). 2md if someone crashes onto it it’s completely dangerous as it’s steel with sharp edges. Riders said that the dirt before it may have worn down and that may be where Roczen flattened his tire. There are lots of reasons for a metal ramp to not be on any SX track anywhere.
You realise these races are held under a roof right?
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RaceFace58 10/29/2022 1:06am
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I’m sure all (however many races they cobble together) next year will all be under a roof too? And I guess steel becomes softer and more forgiving under a retractable roof as well. I don’t understand how moto people want to defend shit that is so non-moto. There is some feeble reason they are using a metal ramp JUST on the finish line, and it’s idiotic whatever that is. I’m afraid it might just be to be “different” than AMA SX.
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I’m sure all (however many races they cobble together) next year will all be under a roof too? And I guess steel becomes softer and more...
I’m sure all (however many races they cobble together) next year will all be under a roof too? And I guess steel becomes softer and more forgiving under a retractable roof as well. I don’t understand how moto people want to defend shit that is so non-moto. There is some feeble reason they are using a metal ramp JUST on the finish line, and it’s idiotic whatever that is. I’m afraid it might just be to be “different” than AMA SX.
The metal ramp finish jump has been a part of the Aus X Open since 2015, it’s not a new WSX thing.
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The reason for the metal ramp was NOT for the freestyle show they used a proper freestyle ramp off to the side I don't know the...
The reason for the metal ramp was NOT for the freestyle show they used a proper freestyle ramp off to the side
I don't know the reason for using the metal ramp but there seems to be no reason to not use it..

Also the problem seems to be with landing not the takeoff
Also the problem seems to be with landing not the takeoff jemcee thank you for nailing it.

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