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I don't know who the bigger headcases are in moto...the riders or the fans. Seems like on all recent threads it's Dungey loves that new bike and is really gelling with it. However at the start of the outdoors when Tomac swept the floor the bike was supposedly a pile of crap outdoors but indoors was amazing. Then all of us fans figured the new KTM really wasn't that great. But since Tomac's unfortunate crash now the bike is a miraculously a million times better?
Did they really make that much in changes to the bike for Ryan to start clicking off wins? Not in my mind, its just that they are now the fastest on the track. If RV and Tomac were still in it, Dunge would be in 3rd place wondering wtf is going on and blaming the bike. Last 3 years Desnations are the case in point. The tracks over there AREN'T THAT MUCH DIFFERENT to where all of the sudden what you have here is completely worthless. We have sand and have huge ruts too. Dude couldn't pull the pace those days and blames settings.
Just like how Barcia starts the year off on the Yamaha like crap with all of us fans thinking that bike sucks, then all of the sudden a miracle setting fairy arrived with magic suspension settings and now the dude is just hauling...give me a break, the dudes balls finally dropped all the way and he got confident to pin it all day long.
Why would anyone else invest in this sport from a marketing perspective when Ricky Bobby's quote "if you aint first, you last" is true? Kawi is quickly falling to the slowest selling bikes in the US, all because Villopoto retired. KTM went from garbage selling bikes, to biggest name in the business with the help of Dungey coming over and RV leaving the US and series. Granted there was a big turnaround starting before that but in the past 3 years its been a whole nother story.
I don't know where I'm going with this as I am probably/clearly nuts as well, but does anyone else agree? This sport is the biggest mind fkkkk on the planet. Fact is basically proven, the bikes and brands aren't what wins races, its the rider.
Signed, a head case fan.
Did they really make that much in changes to the bike for Ryan to start clicking off wins? Not in my mind, its just that they are now the fastest on the track. If RV and Tomac were still in it, Dunge would be in 3rd place wondering wtf is going on and blaming the bike. Last 3 years Desnations are the case in point. The tracks over there AREN'T THAT MUCH DIFFERENT to where all of the sudden what you have here is completely worthless. We have sand and have huge ruts too. Dude couldn't pull the pace those days and blames settings.
Just like how Barcia starts the year off on the Yamaha like crap with all of us fans thinking that bike sucks, then all of the sudden a miracle setting fairy arrived with magic suspension settings and now the dude is just hauling...give me a break, the dudes balls finally dropped all the way and he got confident to pin it all day long.
Why would anyone else invest in this sport from a marketing perspective when Ricky Bobby's quote "if you aint first, you last" is true? Kawi is quickly falling to the slowest selling bikes in the US, all because Villopoto retired. KTM went from garbage selling bikes, to biggest name in the business with the help of Dungey coming over and RV leaving the US and series. Granted there was a big turnaround starting before that but in the past 3 years its been a whole nother story.
I don't know where I'm going with this as I am probably/clearly nuts as well, but does anyone else agree? This sport is the biggest mind fkkkk on the planet. Fact is basically proven, the bikes and brands aren't what wins races, its the rider.
Signed, a head case fan.
The Shop
But so funny
The diesel would probably win a few motos.
Tomac would not have lasted the entire season at that pace. Something had to give
RV would have done well & and probably won the championship.
Having said that... Dungey is solid. He's a sponsors dream. It cracks me up hearing all the "he doesn't push it" crap. He is just very smooth & smart. Good for him!
That's why Cooper Webb and Filthy Phil by far my favorite riders, dudes tell it like it is.
At the same time- settings and components testing can and does make a huge difference. Otherwise, I guess every factory team in the pits is just a couple semi's full of dumbasses. Also, there are marked differences in tracks across the series that require (sometimes vastly) different settings (think DV's commentary on Villopoto's settings at Qatar). Why would a rider pin it on a bike he doesn't feel fully comfortable on?
I don't understand why the riders are not more closely managed and monitored by the well financed Teams. Protective gear compliance, race results expectations-or you are on the reserve roster. Crash your brains out due to bad decisions frequently, you are on the bench.
If so many guys were not hurt, this year would be much different. Dungey would be chasing the leaders, hanging around in the event of a bad moto by one of the guys ahead in points. THAT IS THE PROBLEM-EVERYONE IS HURT ALL THE FUGGIN TIME.
It worked for Ryan Villopoto when he raced the GP's, didn't it? It must be the rider and not the bike at all.
Also, this may come as a surprise to you but supercross and outdoor tracks are different. They have different jumps, different whoops, different dirt, etc etc. so of course bike setup will change.
You should have signed your post as Dungey Hater because that's really all your post boiled down to, a rant against Dungey.
Pit Row
But damn , I'm getting out of this thread while the gettin' is good!
If you want a better idea of where the production bikes are at right now look back a couple of years at the pro's...takes time for any advancements to 'trickle' down.
As far as supercross, clean up the pits. If the industry or promoters want repeat customers(ticket buyers, cable subscription) make the pits more family friendly. Monster and rockstar need to add a bit more clothing. How about MMI having a bunch of engines dissasembled and get some teenagers that are walking by in the pits to put them back together with the help of MMI. Shop classes are far and few between anymore. I think the kids or even the parents that have had no exposure(other than Tim Taylor) would enjoy putting an engine back together and hearing it run.
The sport is lacking big sponsorship I think do to the badboy, tats and tatoo image.
And last but not least, get the ama out of the sport. Their rules favor a minoriy of companies with the cc disadvantage
of 2 strokes. The best riders will win regardless, so bring back the claiming rule and have classes by cc without reguard to 2 or 4 stroke.
braaap
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Are there still mastadons over there? A certain fat restauraunt chain owner wants to know.
If it was big as NASCAR you couldn't afford to get in the gate.
Be glad it is small.
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