Davalos on a PC bike would be dangerous

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Edited Date/Time 2/2/2012 6:50am
Martin Davalos, gets great starts, looks to me like the bike is the only thing holding him back... Imagine if he was on a PC or Geico bike... Can you say title contender ?
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1/30/2012 12:49pm
I think he has a lot to do with it, not just the bike. Yes he's had a few mechanicals but he throws it away too much and maybe needs more stamina. Cant seem to hold it together pass 6-8 laps!
1/30/2012 12:50pm
He had a PC offer a few years ago and turned it down, at least that is what Matthes is always saying
1/30/2012 12:52pm
motokiwi wrote:
Martin Davalos, gets great starts, looks to me like the bike is the only thing holding him back... Imagine if he was on a PC or...
Martin Davalos, gets great starts, looks to me like the bike is the only thing holding him back... Imagine if he was on a PC or Geico bike... Can you say title contender ?
are you kidding? he has had plenty opportunities on good bikes. If his bike is so bad why is he getting holeshots and then fading back when Anderson is moving forward through the pack? I am not saying his bike is as good as PC or Geico but they are pretty decent.

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1/30/2012 12:55pm
Martin Davalos on a PC bike, will be blazing fast in practise, he'll win a few heats and then fail to produce the goods in the main. He's had so many chances to succeed that it would be silly to expct anything more at this point IMO
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1/30/2012 12:56pm Edited Date/Time 1/30/2012 12:57pm
motokiwi wrote:
Martin Davalos, gets great starts, looks to me like the bike is the only thing holding him back... Imagine if he was on a PC or...
Martin Davalos, gets great starts, looks to me like the bike is the only thing holding him back... Imagine if he was on a PC or Geico bike... Can you say title contender ?
I agree he would be dangerous, he would throw it away at a higher rate of speed.
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1/30/2012 12:59pm
He had a PC offer a few years ago and turned it down, at least that is what Matthes is always saying
...apparently he turned it down because (and I'm paraphrasing here) "if I don't win on a PC, then nobody will ever hire me after that". This--like you said--is what Davalos said to Mitch according to Matthes.
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1/30/2012 1:01pm
He is just fine on his Zook. He is fast on it. Maybe the overall team structure would be good for him but not necessarily the bike. However, I may be wrong.
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1/30/2012 1:01pm
He had a PC offer a few years ago and turned it down, at least that is what Matthes is always saying
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...apparently he turned it down because (and I'm paraphrasing here) "if I don't win on a PC, then nobody will ever hire me after that". This--like...
...apparently he turned it down because (and I'm paraphrasing here) "if I don't win on a PC, then nobody will ever hire me after that". This--like you said--is what Davalos said to Mitch according to Matthes.
If that is correct, there is part of the issue. There is a huge amount of lack of confidence, a mental block!
1/30/2012 1:13pm
Think two seconds about this one : Musquin will be very dangerous on a PC bike...

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1/30/2012 2:48pm
A PC bike won't stop you from randomly crashing every 5 laps...

And Martin turned down a ride from Mitch a while back so he clearly doesn't have the gumption regardless...
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1/30/2012 2:50pm
The bike is clearly not his problem.
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1/30/2012 3:17pm Edited Date/Time 1/30/2012 3:17pm
motokiwi wrote:
Martin Davalos, gets great starts, looks to me like the bike is the only thing holding him back... Imagine if he was on a PC or...
Martin Davalos, gets great starts, looks to me like the bike is the only thing holding him back... Imagine if he was on a PC or Geico bike... Can you say title contender ?
bet he would win if he was on a current model YZ450

that suzuki 250 sucks
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1/30/2012 3:23pm
i get the feeling his heart rate jumps real fast then he peters out by the end of the race.
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1/30/2012 3:29pm
Do PC bikes make you crash less? Seriously though I like Davalos, but i don't think PC is the solution.
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1/30/2012 3:52pm
First of all Devalos is on a great bike. Strouoe was on that bike in 2010 and did well in SX. He was on the pulp show and said it is a great bike. The RMZ250 is a great bike stock. I am sure they only made it better. Devalos has shown great speed. He just can't keep it together. Nothing would change on a PC.

Second. Musquin is on a FACTORY bike and is doing well. PC bikes are good no doubt, but they are not considered a factory bike. Does anyone thing Tickle's PC 450 is better than RV's factory KX450? Both Roczen and Musquin have shown how good those KTM 250s are. Not to mention having Decoster behind the scene. I am sure he has had a say in the devlopment of that bike. It is Musquin's first year in SX, he is doing well and will only improve.
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Suzuki lites team is a factory supported team if you's didnt know.
1/31/2012 8:59am
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Suzuki lites team is a factory supported team if you's didnt know.
I KNOW FOR A FACT THEY ARE NOT A FACTORY TEAM THEY HAVE TO BUY THEIR BIKES AND PARTS. LAST YEAR THEY WERE A FACTORY TEAM BUT WITH THE BUDGET CUTS THEY ARE NOT SUPPORTED ANYMORE. IM SURE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO INFORMATION WORKING WITH THEM. STEVE MATHIS IS A DOUCHE ROCKET FOR BANGIN ON THEM ALL THE TIME.
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I KNOW FOR A FACT THEY ARE NOT A FACTORY TEAM THEY HAVE TO BUY THEIR BIKES AND PARTS. LAST YEAR THEY WERE A FACTORY TEAM...
I KNOW FOR A FACT THEY ARE NOT A FACTORY TEAM THEY HAVE TO BUY THEIR BIKES AND PARTS. LAST YEAR THEY WERE A FACTORY TEAM BUT WITH THE BUDGET CUTS THEY ARE NOT SUPPORTED ANYMORE. IM SURE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO INFORMATION WORKING WITH THEM. STEVE MATHIS IS A DOUCHE ROCKET FOR BANGIN ON THEM ALL THE TIME.
Bro, you left your caps lock on.
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1/31/2012 9:14am
Pro Circuit bike doesn't take away crashes and metal errors.
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I KNOW FOR A FACT THEY ARE NOT A FACTORY TEAM THEY HAVE TO BUY THEIR BIKES AND PARTS. LAST YEAR THEY WERE A FACTORY TEAM...
I KNOW FOR A FACT THEY ARE NOT A FACTORY TEAM THEY HAVE TO BUY THEIR BIKES AND PARTS. LAST YEAR THEY WERE A FACTORY TEAM BUT WITH THE BUDGET CUTS THEY ARE NOT SUPPORTED ANYMORE. IM SURE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO INFORMATION WORKING WITH THEM. STEVE MATHIS IS A DOUCHE ROCKET FOR BANGIN ON THEM ALL THE TIME.
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Bro, you left your caps lock on.
hahhahahahahahahahahaha
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I KNOW FOR A FACT THEY ARE NOT A FACTORY TEAM THEY HAVE TO BUY THEIR BIKES AND PARTS. LAST YEAR THEY WERE A FACTORY TEAM...
I KNOW FOR A FACT THEY ARE NOT A FACTORY TEAM THEY HAVE TO BUY THEIR BIKES AND PARTS. LAST YEAR THEY WERE A FACTORY TEAM BUT WITH THE BUDGET CUTS THEY ARE NOT SUPPORTED ANYMORE. IM SURE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO INFORMATION WORKING WITH THEM. STEVE MATHIS IS A DOUCHE ROCKET FOR BANGIN ON THEM ALL THE TIME.
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1/31/2012 9:33am
Osbourne FTW on the PC bike!!
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jakez704 wrote:
Suzuki lites team is a factory supported team if you's didnt know.
I KNOW FOR A FACT THEY ARE NOT A FACTORY TEAM THEY HAVE TO BUY THEIR BIKES AND PARTS. LAST YEAR THEY WERE A FACTORY TEAM...
I KNOW FOR A FACT THEY ARE NOT A FACTORY TEAM THEY HAVE TO BUY THEIR BIKES AND PARTS. LAST YEAR THEY WERE A FACTORY TEAM BUT WITH THE BUDGET CUTS THEY ARE NOT SUPPORTED ANYMORE. IM SURE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO INFORMATION WORKING WITH THEM. STEVE MATHIS IS A DOUCHE ROCKET FOR BANGIN ON THEM ALL THE TIME.
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1/31/2012 9:56am
I think he's a really good rider, with very good starting skills, and good overall skills. Unfortunately there are a lot of "good" riders that are out there every weekend that can get some starts, win a few heats, and show well for their sponsors. But may never win a SX main or win an overall in an outdoor national. Does not appear to me that his effort is lacking, and I doubt he's being held back by his equipment. Good rider, just not quite good enough to be winning mains. I like the kid.
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1/31/2012 10:38am
Just my opinion but you always hear about the guy who just needed to "win" to get the confidence and confirmation that he belonged at the top level....Martin is "that" guy.
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1/31/2012 10:39am
I love how everyone thinks that Mitch has some special water fountain over at PC that makes average riders great.

Think about this, for ever one champ Mitch produces, he produces three losers. Give me the name of one PC rider that has won that wouldn't have won on another bike.

I'll bet my bottum dollar that the KTM 250 is Evey bit as good as anything that comes out of PC.
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I KNOW FOR A FACT THEY ARE NOT A FACTORY TEAM THEY HAVE TO BUY THEIR BIKES AND PARTS. LAST YEAR THEY WERE A FACTORY TEAM...
I KNOW FOR A FACT THEY ARE NOT A FACTORY TEAM THEY HAVE TO BUY THEIR BIKES AND PARTS. LAST YEAR THEY WERE A FACTORY TEAM BUT WITH THE BUDGET CUTS THEY ARE NOT SUPPORTED ANYMORE. IM SURE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO INFORMATION WORKING WITH THEM. STEVE MATHIS IS A DOUCHE ROCKET FOR BANGIN ON THEM ALL THE TIME.
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1/31/2012 10:58am
jakez704 wrote:
Suzuki lites team is a factory supported team if you's didnt know.
I KNOW FOR A FACT THEY ARE NOT A FACTORY TEAM THEY HAVE TO BUY THEIR BIKES AND PARTS. LAST YEAR THEY WERE A FACTORY TEAM...
I KNOW FOR A FACT THEY ARE NOT A FACTORY TEAM THEY HAVE TO BUY THEIR BIKES AND PARTS. LAST YEAR THEY WERE A FACTORY TEAM BUT WITH THE BUDGET CUTS THEY ARE NOT SUPPORTED ANYMORE. IM SURE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO INFORMATION WORKING WITH THEM. STEVE MATHIS IS A DOUCHE ROCKET FOR BANGIN ON THEM ALL THE TIME.
hate to say it but your wrong..... the lites team has the same support as the factory yoshimura semi does!!! Yes...2 years ago it was out of pocket but last year and this year they are the only FACTORY Suzuki lites team.... so STFU and turn off your caps lock....thanks ;-)
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1/31/2012 11:03am Edited Date/Time 1/31/2012 11:04am
Martin Davalos on a PC bike would be right where he is now........

I feel bad for the guy, he obviously works hard, has speed and skill but just can't seem to keep it together in the Mains.

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