Canadian 2 stroke rules changes

I don't see an issue with that. The rule was designed for privateers not the top 5 guys. I don't agree with only Canadians can ride them. What if an American privateer is trying to race there and can't afford to race every round on a 4 stroke? Sucks for the American privateer and the Nationals lose out on a race entry fee. I guess they aren't too worried about it?

9) Any rider that had an overall series finish in the top five in the MX2 class at the CMRC Pro Nationals within the last three years is not eligible to compete on a two-stroke.

10) Only riders that have a Canadian citizenship are permitted to compete on a two-stroke.

11) Top five finishers of the MX1 class in the 2016 Nationals and beyond will not be eligible to compete in the MX2 class for the following three years.



what in the fuckity fuck

More Benoit rules.

The part about only being able to ride a 2-stroke if your Canadian is stupid.

My god I could go off on a big rant right now , but I don't have the energy. That is some strait up bullshit. Jesus Christ....if you have ever even been within the top 5 of the points in the past 3yrs , you're not " eligible " to ride a 2 stroke! AND.....only Canadian's can ride them.....anybody from outside Canada has to ride a 4 stroke......WHAT....THE...EFF??


"The intention of allowing 250 two-strokes to compete in the MX2 class was to allow Canadian privateers an affordable way to compete in regional, provincial and national level events. That has been achieved in all regions of the country, apparent by the growing number of 250 two-strokes that line up every weekend to race. However, at the Pro Nationals where a substantial investment is made by all manufacturers to compete at the front of the pack, which is where all of the attention and publicity is gained, the set rules and eligibility guidelines have created concern among the manufacturers that do not produce and retail a 250 two-stroke.

Rather than jeopardize having 250 two-strokes eliminated completely from the MX2 class, there have been additional eligibility rules established that limit certain riders that will be competing for a championship. The new limitations insure that the original intention of the rule is maintained and the overwhelming majority of riders that compete on a 250 two-stroke will not be affected. Therefore, beginning at the 2016 Rockstar Energy Drink Motocross Nationals, 250 two-strokes can be used for competition by Canadians only. Additionally, riders that had an overall finish in the top five at the National series in the MX2 class within the last three years will not be eligible to compete on a 250 two-stroke.

The MX2 ProAm class has always been considered to be a developmental class for up and coming riders, and not one for established, top level Pros. To insure this mandate is withheld, as of 2016, any rider that finishes in the top 5 in the MX1 class will not be eligible to compete in the MX2 class for the following three years.

Much thought and discussion has taken place to establish fair, clear cut rules that leave no grey area. These new eligibility guidelines are well defined, satisfy the manufacturers and will be well received by privateers throughout the country.

For the 2016 CMRC Rockstar Energy Drink MX Nationals, the following rules will apply to 250 two-stroke motorcycles in order to be eligible for competition:

1) The bike must remain in stock form from the intake manifold to the exhaust port, and all engine parts between those two points. All engine parts (ie. cylinder, cylinder head, piston, rings, rod, etc.) must be OEM for that year model.

2) Intake manifold is defined from the rubber boot clamps to the carburetor. No porting or headwork allowed.

3) There are no restrictions on pipes or mufflers other than the fact that they must meet the sound rules.

4) CMRC will conduct random engine checks throughout the series if necessary. CMRC will have a cylinder, cylinder head and piston from each manufacturer for comparison.

5) Any bikes found to be modified will be excluded from the results of the day’s competition.

6) Aftermarket pistons, rings and crankshafts are permitted providing they have the stock OEM specifications.

7) Additionally, a rider may not switch from a two-stroke to a four-stroke or visa-versa. The type of machine on which a rider begins the series is to be used to the completion (ie. Start on a two-stroke, finish on a two-stroke).

8) Modifications or replacement parts will be deemed illegal if they are not listed above.

9) Any rider that had an overall series finish in the top five in the MX2 class at the CMRC Pro Nationals within the last three years is not eligible to compete on a two-stroke.

10) Only riders that have a Canadian citizenship are permitted to compete on a two-stroke.

11) Top five finishers of the MX1 class in the 2016 Nationals and beyond will not be eligible to compete in the MX2 class for the following three years.
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Coming for 2017, you can ride a 2-stroke IF:


You weigh over 250lb

Next thing you know they will require all 250 two strokes to run super moto tires and a potato for an air filter....

The fact that only Canadians can ride 2 strokes is.... well i don't know what i should call it.

The whole Canadian series just fell down like a rock. What an absolute joke of a series after those rules.

I stopped reading after "250 two-strokes can be used for competition by Canadians only". Maybe I'll try again later.... Maybe not.

The Finnish fella' sums it up. What a joke of a series.

I guess the Canadians have enough paupers competing in their series without importing foreign ones. At least that my reading of the situation.

That is some serious bullshit right there. Could the promoters get any further up the manufacturers asses? There was a time when racing was for racers, now it's just a show so somebody who doesn't care about the sport can line their and their friends pockets. WTF?!

The only reason 4 strokes are better are rules are made for them to be an advantage over two strokes and tracks are built to suit them.

Why don't they just have two classes a premier class 450 4 stroke only. And a open class 300cc and down.

Could not agree with you more.

I'v been saying this for fucking years. If a person is going to buy an brand new 2 stroke. For the love of moto don't buy a Japanese(Yamaha). KTM, Husqvarna and TM are the only ones that spend R&D in the 2 stroke segment(in motocross).

Another rule brought on by the 4 stroke only manufacturers who are trying to get rid of the 2 strokes. (eehhem..honda).

They probably cried to the CMRC and told them they were going home if anymore 2 strokes won a race.
Little bitches.

I don't know why you all are bitching, this basically says all canadien kids can race competitive motorcycles against Canada's best & Americas elite privateers. It washes away the has beens taking away the kids chances while also eliminating the Canadiens who want to race a bike they can easily win on (aka Kavin "goon" Benoit &andbro)!

this is a good change. I bet in the next year u see a lot of preliminary guys become has beens, without stipulation the real talent will shine.

WHY NOT JUST MAKE A RULE SAYING THAT "ONLY CANUCKS CAN RACE HERE"/ OR CAN SCORE POINTS''

so stupid. honestly this is no different than trying to put Ryan Dungey on a 250 against 450s. "wah, The fastest are too fast so we have to slow them down WAHWAH"

not too mention that by keeping a TEAM from using a 2 stroke it means their costs go up and could shorten the teams lifespan

"... the set rules and eligibility guidelines have created concern among the manufacturers that do not produce and retail a 250 two-stroke."

I wonder which manufacturer moaned the loudest?

But this is the ultimate result of the Japanese brands stupid power in the sport. Thank god for the EMX125 and EMX300 series.

huh?

A " good change "?........I think this is the furthest from a good change you could possibly have. It boils down to that Honda , Kawasaki and Suzuki don't want their high dollar / race prepped 250F's getting beat by a stock 250 2 stroke. It's embarrassing.

You know what they say?...." If you don't win , change the rules and keep changing them until you do "

What a joke!!! I've heard how good the weed is in Canada, and they must have smoked a bunch of it when they came up with these stupid rules.

If you would like to express your comment or ask if you too can have a hit from their bong, you can contact them here http://www.mxnationals.ca/about-us/

Pussification of the sport.

I like the idea of of top 5 guys sandbagging on the 2-strokes, to a certain point...However, Canadians only? That's pretty shitty.

Funny stuff. Jeff Alessi calling Kavin Benoit, not Kevin Benoit a goon.

But I thought 2 strokes weren't competitive .... ha ha . cc for cc it's a superior motocross powerplant.

I'm going to let this post topic grow for awhile then send them a link to this forum post and hopefully they see how stupid their decision is.

http://www.mxnationals.ca/about-us/

Amen brother!

Just when you think their was a hint of intelligence in the Pro MX community, this comes along and reaffirms that there is not much.

Yamaha and KTM are the only two major OEM's making two strokes........the KTM 250F and Yamaha 250F are the two fastest production 250cc lawnmowers, they are the two OEM's that continue to improve while Honda, Kawasaki and Suzuki just legislate to make their bikes stand a chance of winning.

I can understand the CMRC struggling to find the correct balance between 2-stroke and 4-stroke. I cannot however wrap my head around the Canadian only thing. The only possible explanation I can think of is it was an (entirely unnecessary) attempt to keep top U.S. guys from coming to Canada on a 2-stroke and blowing the doors off of everybody. It would never happen, but they want to cover their bases. If that was the intention, why not make it the same as they did for the Canadian's where if you are in the Top "X" in AMA points, you cannot ride one?

I am baffled no-American's on 2-strokes thing, and have a feeling that they will change their minds as quick as Stewart on racing the Aussie SX. I hope so anyways.

Comparing Yamaha 2 stroke development to what KTM, Husqvarna and TM is not very accurate.

All Yamaha has done since 06 is updating the plastics.