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Haven't heard much lately from the the BBP haters?
Too tall, big, wide, heavy, noisy.....

2022 450 SX, 250 SX .....prob 450 Outdoor too.

450 class better hope ET3 + DF14 knee's are a lil tender for the first few rounds, otherwise it could be large margin Blu Crew wins over the field.
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thatswhathappens 5/16/2022 8:34pm
5/16/2022 8:34pm
So are we burying this “blue pig” thing or not? I thought we collectively decided it was officially dead a couple weeks ago.
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Mit12 5/16/2022 8:46pm
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Now its the orange pig! Lol
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Thisusernameisavailable 5/16/2022 9:39pm
5/16/2022 9:39pm
Once Tomac retires and DF has gone to another team, it’ll be back to ‘pig’ status.

A bit like the RMZ being no good…. Until Suzuki sign a top rider..

#itsnotaboutthebike
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TbonesPop 5/16/2022 10:03pm
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Well between DF winning the outdoors last year on the YZ, Cooper winning SXw lites last year, Colt winning SXe Lites last year, Craig winning SXw Lites this year, and Eli winning SX this year, they've won the vast majority of championships in the US. The only exceptions are Jett winning outdoors last year and SX e lites this year, plus Coop taking SX last year.

So in the last 18 months, they have taken 5 of the 8 titles in the US. That's 63% of the championships going to one team and 1 manufacturer.

Kinda hard to make the case that the bike sucks now days......I'd say its gone
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Dirt.Squirt 5/16/2022 11:43pm
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Mit12 wrote:
Now its the orange pig! Lol
Except it’s not big tall and heavy so we gotta come up with a better name….
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greg570 5/17/2022 2:12am
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Boggins wrote:
Haven't heard much lately from the the BBP haters? Too tall, big, wide, heavy, noisy..... 2022 450 SX, 250 SX .....prob 450 Outdoor too. 450 class...
Haven't heard much lately from the the BBP haters?
Too tall, big, wide, heavy, noisy.....

2022 450 SX, 250 SX .....prob 450 Outdoor too.

450 class better hope ET3 + DF14 knee's are a lil tender for the first few rounds, otherwise it could be large margin Blu Crew wins over the field.
Results or not....it is still big and heavy.......and eating cranks:-p
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davis224 5/17/2022 4:00am
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Mit12 wrote:
Now its the orange pig! Lol
Dirt.Squirt wrote:
Except it’s not big tall and heavy so we gotta come up with a better name….
Long pig? Brokeneck pig?
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Steve125 5/17/2022 4:09am
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Mit12 wrote:
Now its the orange pig! Lol
Dirt.Squirt wrote:
Except it’s not big tall and heavy so we gotta come up with a better name….
Could name it after that 90s band.. Cracking Pumpkins?
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Miezie666 5/17/2022 4:19am
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Mit12 wrote:
Now its the orange pig! Lol
where i live- the garbage trucks are orange... ;-)
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The color no matter for eli. Its whats in his head that matters
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Pakoyz250f 5/17/2022 7:33am
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TbonesPop wrote:
Well between DF winning the outdoors last year on the YZ, Cooper winning SXw lites last year, Colt winning SXe Lites last year, Craig winning SXw...
Well between DF winning the outdoors last year on the YZ, Cooper winning SXw lites last year, Colt winning SXe Lites last year, Craig winning SXw Lites this year, and Eli winning SX this year, they've won the vast majority of championships in the US. The only exceptions are Jett winning outdoors last year and SX e lites this year, plus Coop taking SX last year.

So in the last 18 months, they have taken 5 of the 8 titles in the US. That's 63% of the championships going to one team and 1 manufacturer.

Kinda hard to make the case that the bike sucks now days......I'd say its gone
Also Maxime Renaux winning 2021 MX2 and this year Jago is leading MX2

Yamaha is doing great I love it!
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Zycki11 5/17/2022 9:16am
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Going out on a limb here. But I think we should call them Yamahas
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Leeham 5/17/2022 10:37am
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Boggins wrote:
Haven't heard much lately from the the BBP haters? Too tall, big, wide, heavy, noisy..... 2022 450 SX, 250 SX .....prob 450 Outdoor too. 450 class...
Haven't heard much lately from the the BBP haters?
Too tall, big, wide, heavy, noisy.....

2022 450 SX, 250 SX .....prob 450 Outdoor too.

450 class better hope ET3 + DF14 knee's are a lil tender for the first few rounds, otherwise it could be large margin Blu Crew wins over the field.
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Zachintosh 5/17/2022 10:47am
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The CRF450R has been raced in SX for 20 years now and has yet to win a title.
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Zycki11 5/17/2022 11:09am
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Zachintosh wrote:
The CRF450R has been raced in SX for 20 years now and has yet to win a title.
Yep, but it doesn't hit the vital mx forum with a nickname. Vital members read something from MXA one person comments on it and it becomes the norm. Next thing you know its "true"
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aeffertz 5/17/2022 1:02pm
5/17/2022 1:02pm Edited Date/Time 5/17/2022 1:04pm
Dirt.Squirt wrote:
Except it’s not big tall and heavy so we gotta come up with a better name….
Neither was the Yamaha since Stew quit riding it but that didn’t stop anyone until just a few weeks ago.

Is Barcia really doing any better on GasGas? Did Cooper Webb really look any different this year not training at Aldon’s compared to 2018 on the Yamaha? How did AP’s season go? Put any of these bikes in the hands of the right people and they can win on it.
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Thisusernameisavailable 5/17/2022 2:10pm
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Dirt.Squirt wrote:
Except it’s not big tall and heavy so we gotta come up with a better name….
aeffertz wrote:
Neither was the Yamaha since Stew quit riding it but that didn’t stop anyone until just a few weeks ago. Is Barcia really doing any better...
Neither was the Yamaha since Stew quit riding it but that didn’t stop anyone until just a few weeks ago.

Is Barcia really doing any better on GasGas? Did Cooper Webb really look any different this year not training at Aldon’s compared to 2018 on the Yamaha? How did AP’s season go? Put any of these bikes in the hands of the right people and they can win on it.
Except the Suzuki… that things got a kicker..😏
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Thisusernameisavailable 5/17/2022 2:11pm
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Dirt.Squirt wrote:
Except it’s not big tall and heavy so we gotta come up with a better name….
aeffertz wrote:
Neither was the Yamaha since Stew quit riding it but that didn’t stop anyone until just a few weeks ago. Is Barcia really doing any better...
Neither was the Yamaha since Stew quit riding it but that didn’t stop anyone until just a few weeks ago.

Is Barcia really doing any better on GasGas? Did Cooper Webb really look any different this year not training at Aldon’s compared to 2018 on the Yamaha? How did AP’s season go? Put any of these bikes in the hands of the right people and they can win on it.
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Except the Suzuki… that things got a kicker..😏
And the Honda… as evidenced by the last man to win on the Suzuki..😏
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Mit12 5/17/2022 4:06pm
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Mit12 wrote:
Now its the orange pig! Lol
Dirt.Squirt wrote:
Except it’s not big tall and heavy so we gotta come up with a better name….
My point is how the tide has turned in the key board jockey forms.
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Boggins 5/18/2022 8:17pm
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Anyone have updates on '23 YZ450 updates / changes?
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vincefriese 5/19/2022 9:17am
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Boggins wrote:
Anyone have updates on '23 YZ450 updates / changes?
yes it has AI steering kinda like tesla
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Mr. Afterbar 5/19/2022 9:36am
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Mit12 wrote:
Now its the orange pig! Lol
Dirt.Squirt wrote:
Except it’s not big tall and heavy so we gotta come up with a better name….
K-Mart Trail Machine.
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Zycki11 5/19/2022 9:40am
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Mit12 wrote:
Now its the orange pig! Lol
Dirt.Squirt wrote:
Except it’s not big tall and heavy so we gotta come up with a better name….
Mr. Afterbar wrote:
K-Mart Trail Machine.
We used to call them Kentucky Trash Machines
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DB505 5/19/2022 9:55am
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Any news on 2023 updates??? ML512,????
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GD350 5/19/2022 10:16am
5/19/2022 10:16am Edited Date/Time 5/19/2022 10:20am
Comparing blue bikes with 80K$s in them to your stock pig huh? Well luckily they really listen to their customers and are adding power steering!!
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Dirty Points 5/19/2022 11:06am
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GD350 wrote:
Comparing blue bikes with 80K$s in them to your stock pig huh? Well luckily they really listen to their customers and are adding power steering!!
Well, I guess you could compare customers bikes to the bone stock one (with bars and set up) Chiz qualified straight to an SX main on.
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motomx88 5/19/2022 2:39pm
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Zachintosh wrote:
The CRF450R has been raced in SX for 20 years now and has yet to win a title.
Outdoors also but the bike doesn't get bad press for some reason. I don't get it
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-MAVERICK- 5/19/2022 2:55pm
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Zachintosh wrote:
The CRF450R has been raced in SX for 20 years now and has yet to win a title.
motomx88 wrote:
Outdoors also but the bike doesn't get bad press for some reason. I don't get it
It's been a long time since they grabbed an outdoor 450 title in the US, but the CRF does have one to its name.

RC in 2004.
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motomx88 5/19/2022 3:26pm
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Zachintosh wrote:
The CRF450R has been raced in SX for 20 years now and has yet to win a title.
motomx88 wrote:
Outdoors also but the bike doesn't get bad press for some reason. I don't get it
-MAVERICK- wrote:
It's been a long time since they grabbed an outdoor 450 title in the US, but the CRF does have one to its name. RC in...
It's been a long time since they grabbed an outdoor 450 title in the US, but the CRF does have one to its name.

RC in 2004.
Yep, forgot about that one. I somehow remember KW being on a 4s and RC on a 250. But that must have been the year before.
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