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3/21/2011 9:12pm
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Dungey will be champ if the other guys crash out while racing for the win. If they don't crash out, Dungey won't win. He could pull...
Dungey will be champ if the other guys crash out while racing for the win. If they don't crash out, Dungey won't win. He could pull it off and prove to be some kind of turtle genuis, or it could turn out to be a dull champion defence. With Stewart and RV potentially wounded, now would be a great time to stamp out some wins.
I like Dungey but your "turtle genius" line is gold!
Vazscep wrote:
No it's not "gold". It's rude and Dungey is every bit as fast as the other riders (mind you Stewart is faster than everyone). What title...
No it's not "gold". It's rude and Dungey is every bit as fast as the other riders (mind you Stewart is faster than everyone). What title did RV or Stewart win in their second year in the 450's? Thought so, dicklicker.
Hahahahaha take it easy Vascep. Dungey is my favorite rider but I'm not such a fanboy that I can't appreciate some comedy. It's good to defend your rider, but it's a certified fanboy like yourself that gives others more reason to spew unflattering comments about Dungey.
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3/21/2011 10:08pm
is this the "OFFICIAL" get on or get off the dungey bandwagon thread?

he's taken a lot of heat this year. i say either get your dungey ticket punched now or stick with villo or reedy.

in fact, one could start a whole nother thread right now where we all get on board once and for all with who we think is going to win the title.
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3/21/2011 10:10pm Edited Date/Time 3/21/2011 10:17pm
burnside wrote:
Dungey will be champ if the other guys crash out while racing for the win. If they don't crash out, Dungey won't win. He could pull...
Dungey will be champ if the other guys crash out while racing for the win. If they don't crash out, Dungey won't win. He could pull it off and prove to be some kind of turtle genuis, or it could turn out to be a dull champion defence. With Stewart and RV potentially wounded, now would be a great time to stamp out some wins.
all true.

but i dont think theres anything that dungey can do at this point to shake the haters if he doesnt rip off a couple wins with the entire fab 5 in attendance.
3/21/2011 11:20pm
burnside wrote:
Dungey will be champ if the other guys crash out while racing for the win. If they don't crash out, Dungey won't win. He could pull...
Dungey will be champ if the other guys crash out while racing for the win. If they don't crash out, Dungey won't win. He could pull it off and prove to be some kind of turtle genuis, or it could turn out to be a dull champion defence. With Stewart and RV potentially wounded, now would be a great time to stamp out some wins.
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all true. but i dont think theres anything that dungey can do at this point to shake the haters if he doesnt rip off a couple...
all true.

but i dont think theres anything that dungey can do at this point to shake the haters if he doesnt rip off a couple wins with the entire fab 5 in attendance.
haters gonna hate even if he smokes 'em all this week.

it'll go like this

"Stewart was busted up"
"Villopoto was busted up"
"Reeds bike is not factory and he is still cramping"
"Trey doesnt have a toronto set up."

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3/21/2011 11:31pm
Vazscep wrote:
Who gives a crap about what an Aussie thinks? You guys ever won any wars and conquered the world, pussies?
I would suggest you back it down a gear chief. No, we haven't conquered the world, but we've done our bit to give the allies a hand.

Maybe you should do some reading regarding the roles Aussies have played in the wars over the last 100 years or so and you may change your opinion regarding the pussies comment.

More than likely not being the ignorant ass that you come across as.


Fuckwit.

GO REEDY.
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3/21/2011 11:59pm
The thing with the consistency strategy is that you HAVE to be on the box EVERY week, without fail, to stay up there in the points. You can't afford even one DNF because you have no catch up ability.

Look at how Reed did it in 2006 and 2009. Only one or two rounds off the podium the whole season, nothing worse than 4th, and no DNF's. At the end he was only 2 points and 4 points off the title respectively.

Dungey's biggest problem right now is that there are three riders who are consistently faster than him - RV, JS and CR - and another who is occasionally faster than him (TC).
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3/22/2011 7:58am
It's weird because people say he's not as fast as the others when often times in timed practice he'll be 2nd fastest to Stewart and sometimes 1st even. That doesn't equal race wins though, he needs to get his starts dialed and pick up the intensity just a tad so he can reel people in and be in the battle instead of cruising to a podium, although his pass from 4th to second was brilliant when Reed and JS were going at it a few rounds back. Hoping to see him take a win soon.
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3/22/2011 8:09am
Ryan has what everyone else wants. Two red #1 plates for 2011.

What ever the opinions are, he earned them and is racing hard to keep them. Just as the people that earned them before, and will after this season.

From the DeCoster interview at MXA, it appears he's earned the respect of another older and wiser RD in the moto world.

Things that any rider would cherish, championships and respect of "The Man".
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3/22/2011 8:11am
Dungey= Great rider..."good" racer.

Not hating, I really like the kid. He's shown he can turn lap times as fast as the top-3 guys, he simply does not seem to have the ability to "quickly" pass slower riders. I don't know if its an aggressiveness issue, or if he lacks the "race-smarts" to get it done. There just doesn't seem to be any "urgency" in his riding style. With his terrible starts this season, this has absolutely killed the guy. Hopefully, he'll see last week's events as "new life", and pick it up the rest of the season.
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3/22/2011 8:21am Edited Date/Time 3/22/2011 8:21am
That red background will be gone after Hangtown
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3/22/2011 8:26am Edited Date/Time 3/22/2011 8:28am
This is in effect Dungey's rookie year IMO. Last year everything ran smoothly which is very unnatural for a guy in his first year in the big class. This year he has had team personnel changes, poor starts, new competition, and pressure from last years success. As others have pointed out his speed is there in qualifying but main event issues have held him back a bit. What he is going through and learning this year will make him stronger in the future.
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3/22/2011 8:30am
ando wrote:
The thing with the consistency strategy is that you HAVE to be on the box EVERY week, without fail, to stay up there in the points...
The thing with the consistency strategy is that you HAVE to be on the box EVERY week, without fail, to stay up there in the points. You can't afford even one DNF because you have no catch up ability.

Look at how Reed did it in 2006 and 2009. Only one or two rounds off the podium the whole season, nothing worse than 4th, and no DNF's. At the end he was only 2 points and 4 points off the title respectively.

Dungey's biggest problem right now is that there are three riders who are consistently faster than him - RV, JS and CR - and another who is occasionally faster than him (TC).
Sorry dude, I'm picky about stats. They're so easy to look up. Why fabricate them.
Reed had a 7th in 2009 and two 5ths in 2006.
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3/22/2011 8:33am
VoR wrote:
That red background will be gone after Hangtown
Not convinced...yet
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3/22/2011 8:38am
Dungey is fine. The kid just needs to toughen up and and start pushing people around.
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3/22/2011 8:43am
RMZ819 wrote:
Dungey is fine. The kid just needs to toughen up and and start pushing people around.
he wasn't really close to reed and canard last week, so there goes your theory of being tougher and pushing people around.

not saying he isn't fast, because obviously he is, but he's gonna need more than a big bicep to grab that win.
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3/22/2011 8:54am
I personally believe that Dungey doesn't have the drive to win because he is very unhappy with his team this year. He definitely doesn't have that go now urgency that these top guys need to gain the slight edge over each other. I would love to see him come out on fire and blast a few guys to make it known that he wants this as bad as anyone. I'm still pulling for Dungey.
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3/22/2011 8:58am
He's not winning because apparently he's still riding a 2008 bike.
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3/22/2011 9:00am
RMZ819 wrote:
Dungey is fine. The kid just needs to toughen up and and start pushing people around.
peelout wrote:
he wasn't really close to reed and canard last week, so there goes your theory of being tougher and pushing people around. not saying he isn't...
he wasn't really close to reed and canard last week, so there goes your theory of being tougher and pushing people around.

not saying he isn't fast, because obviously he is, but he's gonna need more than a big bicep to grab that win.
Last week, you're right, he did not get close enough to get tough but in several past races he has worked himself into a position to win if he would have taken a chance and throw a block pass, close but no cigar! I think he wants to stay clean and make no enemies and also does not want to go down in a futile attempt at a pass like others have done. I do think that two weeks ago he was so much faster than Reed and may have been able to run down RV if he would have put a hard pass on Reed early on in the main. I think Reed would have expected it and been fine with it.

As to passing through the pack, i watch him closely now that so many say he cannot pass from a bad start or has no race craft. Go back and watch all the races and in the last 4 or so races he does pass quickly but when he gets to the other fast guys, they are another kettle of fish and cannot be passed so easily! I think overall he is doing good considering two mechanicals and the number of great riders he is competing against. Also, most of the time he is on pace with anyone on the track but when they all are going fast, on pace with a bad start does not equal victory.. With his starts he needs to be even faster then them not "just as fast".

I was surprised that he did not run Reed and Canard down last weekend considering he was .155 off JS's pace after they changed the track in practice and that he won his qualifier. Sometimes things just don't work out and for RD things are not working out for one reason or another but its not speed and its not desire. To put is simply it seems as though its all about the starts, but that's nothing new in racing!

Go RD!
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3/22/2011 9:03am
don't get me wrong raddad, i definitely think he can win, no doubt. but i also believe there are 4 other guys out there that are faster.

2 of them weren't in the main event and he still wasn't able to get it done. i hope for his sake he makes it happen, otherwise it will have been a less than stellar championship defense from him this season.
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3/22/2011 9:15am
VoR wrote:
That red background will be gone after Hangtown
That red background is something everyone wants, but for now only one has..
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3/22/2011 9:23am
humm, 18 points down with 6 races to go?

HE CAN WIN THIS THING !
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3/22/2011 9:39am
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Dungey is 4th best, maybe 3rd best.

On a side note. How long has it been since Gossler has lost a Championship?
3rd or 4th best is good enough for a championship, especially when the the two fastest guys bomb out like they've both done recently. Haven't you...
3rd or 4th best is good enough for a championship, especially when the the two fastest guys bomb out like they've both done recently. Haven't you ever heard "the fastest guy does not always win?"

Dungey is there, so is Reed, it's anyone's title at this point. If Dungey's chain didn't break where would he be in points??
bomb out? they had a bad week... One bad week.. RV came off a 3 race win streak.. and JS just mad a few mistakes... hardly "BOMBING OUT"..
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3/22/2011 10:22am
nytsmaC wrote:
He's not winning because apparently he's still riding a 2008 bike.
yup, it was proven (someone on vital reported it).
3/22/2011 10:26am Edited Date/Time 3/22/2011 10:29am
motosmith wrote:
Dungey is 4th best, maybe 3rd best.

On a side note. How long has it been since Gossler has lost a Championship?
3rd or 4th best is good enough for a championship, especially when the the two fastest guys bomb out like they've both done recently. Haven't you...
3rd or 4th best is good enough for a championship, especially when the the two fastest guys bomb out like they've both done recently. Haven't you ever heard "the fastest guy does not always win?"

Dungey is there, so is Reed, it's anyone's title at this point. If Dungey's chain didn't break where would he be in points??
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bomb out? they had a bad week... One bad week.. RV came off a 3 race win streak.. and JS just mad a few mistakes... hardly...
bomb out? they had a bad week... One bad week.. RV came off a 3 race win streak.. and JS just mad a few mistakes... hardly "BOMBING OUT"..
When racing for a championship a DNQ with ZERO points (or DNF 2pts for James?) is "bombing out" dude, sorry. A "bad week" is more like Daytona for Stewart when he still got the checker, but finished 9th...I'm an RV fan and yes, he bombed out whether it was his fault or not. Now the pressure is on, and I wouldn't be surprised if the pressure gets to him...Reed smells the blood.
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3/22/2011 11:57am Edited Date/Time 3/22/2011 11:58am
When racing for a championship a DNQ with ZERO points (or DNF 2pts for James?) is "bombing out" dude, sorry. A "bad week" is more like...
When racing for a championship a DNQ with ZERO points (or DNF 2pts for James?) is "bombing out" dude, sorry. A "bad week" is more like Daytona for Stewart when he still got the checker, but finished 9th...I'm an RV fan and yes, he bombed out whether it was his fault or not. Now the pressure is on, and I wouldn't be surprised if the pressure gets to him...Reed smells the blood.
my chick bombed out the bathroom yesterday. i had to drive 15 miles to my parents house to drop off the kids at their pool. she has one foul turd cutter
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3/22/2011 2:35pm
ando wrote:
The thing with the consistency strategy is that you HAVE to be on the box EVERY week, without fail, to stay up there in the points...
The thing with the consistency strategy is that you HAVE to be on the box EVERY week, without fail, to stay up there in the points. You can't afford even one DNF because you have no catch up ability.

Look at how Reed did it in 2006 and 2009. Only one or two rounds off the podium the whole season, nothing worse than 4th, and no DNF's. At the end he was only 2 points and 4 points off the title respectively.

Dungey's biggest problem right now is that there are three riders who are consistently faster than him - RV, JS and CR - and another who is occasionally faster than him (TC).
toroP wrote:
Sorry dude, I'm picky about stats. They're so easy to look up. Why fabricate them.
Reed had a 7th in 2009 and two 5ths in 2006.
Sorry, I was going off memory, and you are right. Nonetheless, my point still stands - if you are going to run consistently 2/3/4 you can potentially win the title, but you can't afford a DNF or a really bad round.

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