Interesting MXDN news from Matthes

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8/29/2026 6:26am
CPR wrote:

Genuine question: does Feld or MX Sports cover travel costs for anyone racing AMA races?

That is not at all the same thing and you know it. The AMA and Feld pay purses for race wins and championships and it is certainly enough to cover expenses to get from race to race  If Feld said they would no longer pay the riders the series would collapse. No professional is going to race for free. Why are so many willing to accept this money grab from MXGP. It doesn't make any sense. This is looking more and more like trying to make America look like the villain's as so many do. The real villain is MXGP and it's obvious.

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8/29/2026 6:38am
CPR wrote:

Genuine question: does Feld or MX Sports cover travel costs for anyone racing AMA races?

gantry25 wrote:
That is not at all the same thing and you know it. The AMA and Feld pay purses for race wins and championships and it is...

That is not at all the same thing and you know it. The AMA and Feld pay purses for race wins and championships and it is certainly enough to cover expenses to get from race to race  If Feld said they would no longer pay the riders the series would collapse. No professional is going to race for free. Why are so many willing to accept this money grab from MXGP. It doesn't make any sense. This is looking more and more like trying to make America look like the villain's as so many do. The real villain is MXGP and it's obvious.

"That is not at all the same thing and you know it."

You ignored the question, the AMA and Feld does not pay all the professional riders, most privateers are out of pocket.

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8/29/2026 6:43am
CPR wrote:

Genuine question: does Feld or MX Sports cover travel costs for anyone racing AMA races?

gantry25 wrote:
That is not at all the same thing and you know it. The AMA and Feld pay purses for race wins and championships and it is...

That is not at all the same thing and you know it. The AMA and Feld pay purses for race wins and championships and it is certainly enough to cover expenses to get from race to race  If Feld said they would no longer pay the riders the series would collapse. No professional is going to race for free. Why are so many willing to accept this money grab from MXGP. It doesn't make any sense. This is looking more and more like trying to make America look like the villain's as so many do. The real villain is MXGP and it's obvious.

Professionals race for free(meaning no purse money) in MXGP and F1 every weekend. 

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Some of you should go back 10-15 years and read what was being said when guys like Eli didn’t want to go. 

He was honest about it when he'd rather wanted to go elk hunting instead of racing. Fair enough, do what you like. But at least he came forward and didn't make his team cover for him.

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8/29/2026 6:56am
soggy wrote:

Some of you should go back 10-15 years and read what was being said when guys like Eli didn’t want to go. 

DeStouwer wrote:
He was honest about it when he'd rather wanted to go elk hunting instead of racing. Fair enough, do what you like. But at least he...

He was honest about it when he'd rather wanted to go elk hunting instead of racing. Fair enough, do what you like. But at least he came forward and didn't make his team cover for him.

I certainly recall some backlash in Eli’s direction for not wanting to go is all I was getting at. 

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8/29/2026 7:15am

I can’t wait for next years excuse from Deegan because let’s be honest he’s going to get eaten alive at assen!

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8/29/2026 7:20am Edited Date/Time 8/29/2026 7:21am
soggy wrote:

Some of you should go back 10-15 years and read what was being said when guys like Eli didn’t want to go. 

DeStouwer wrote:
He was honest about it when he'd rather wanted to go elk hunting instead of racing. Fair enough, do what you like. But at least he...

He was honest about it when he'd rather wanted to go elk hunting instead of racing. Fair enough, do what you like. But at least he came forward and didn't make his team cover for him.

There is a huge difference when you have raced it several several years in a row, just switched teams, or coming back from injury. Like the Lawrence’s this year, nobody says a word when you want a year off. 

verses 

NEVER attended, flash enormous wealth 5 times a day via social media, make BS claims about representing your country, race plenty of other off season overseas races, and claim to be the fastest..but again dodge it year after year. 

 

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8/29/2026 7:57am
CPR wrote:

Genuine question: does Feld or MX Sports cover travel costs for anyone racing AMA races?

gantry25 wrote:
That is not at all the same thing and you know it. The AMA and Feld pay purses for race wins and championships and it is...

That is not at all the same thing and you know it. The AMA and Feld pay purses for race wins and championships and it is certainly enough to cover expenses to get from race to race  If Feld said they would no longer pay the riders the series would collapse. No professional is going to race for free. Why are so many willing to accept this money grab from MXGP. It doesn't make any sense. This is looking more and more like trying to make America look like the villain's as so many do. The real villain is MXGP and it's obvious.

soggy wrote:

Professionals race for free(meaning no purse money) in MXGP and F1 every weekend. 

F1 doesn't have a race representing each country like MXDN. Their pay structure and overall  compensation is so overwhelming to compare to even AMA supercross, never mind MXGP is ridiculous. MXGP can't even fill it's own gates, I don't think I would use that as an example. This is an MXGP race, I am sure some pressure is put on the riders by the FIM to participate in their own series, FIM cannot do this to the US riders and teams.. 

On the Other hand AMA supercross is the big dog. Motocross popularity has declined in America and now with SMX it will become more difficult to field a team from America. Kawasaki's take on it is quite interesting. They stated they would go if it were better organized in the USA. They also stated that the cost to attend the event is at least 75,000 and can be as much as 100,000.00.and that most teams cannot afford it. They also stated there are 31 races they attend in America which means MXDN can only be as important as 32. So there it is, the MXDN is not as important to at least one manufacturer as the other 31 races they run. They said several other things of interest, you should read the article on the front page of Vital. 

Without some changes being made the MXDN will continue to decline. More manufacturers will bow out.

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gantry25 wrote:
That is not at all the same thing and you know it. The AMA and Feld pay purses for race wins and championships and it is...

That is not at all the same thing and you know it. The AMA and Feld pay purses for race wins and championships and it is certainly enough to cover expenses to get from race to race  If Feld said they would no longer pay the riders the series would collapse. No professional is going to race for free. Why are so many willing to accept this money grab from MXGP. It doesn't make any sense. This is looking more and more like trying to make America look like the villain's as so many do. The real villain is MXGP and it's obvious.

soggy wrote:

Professionals race for free(meaning no purse money) in MXGP and F1 every weekend. 

gantry25 wrote:
F1 doesn't have a race representing each country like MXDN. Their pay structure and overall  compensation is so overwhelming to compare to even AMA supercross, never...

F1 doesn't have a race representing each country like MXDN. Their pay structure and overall  compensation is so overwhelming to compare to even AMA supercross, never mind MXGP is ridiculous. MXGP can't even fill it's own gates, I don't think I would use that as an example. This is an MXGP race, I am sure some pressure is put on the riders by the FIM to participate in their own series, FIM cannot do this to the US riders and teams.. 

On the Other hand AMA supercross is the big dog. Motocross popularity has declined in America and now with SMX it will become more difficult to field a team from America. Kawasaki's take on it is quite interesting. They stated they would go if it were better organized in the USA. They also stated that the cost to attend the event is at least 75,000 and can be as much as 100,000.00.and that most teams cannot afford it. They also stated there are 31 races they attend in America which means MXDN can only be as important as 32. So there it is, the MXDN is not as important to at least one manufacturer as the other 31 races they run. They said several other things of interest, you should read the article on the front page of Vital. 

Without some changes being made the MXDN will continue to decline. More manufacturers will bow out.

MXGP doesn’t need full gates and IMO we need to take from them in this aspect. I believe Luongo has even said there goal isn’t to have full gates.
MXGP feels like a professional race series with exclusivity. 

USA feels like any tom dick or harry can race in it. Which is cool sometimes but IMO it drags the product down. 

We could cut the last 10 guys out of the field for moto and it would lead to better racing. We’d have less crashes on the starts, and far less lappers to deal with. 

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8/29/2026 8:30am
DeStouwer wrote:
He was honest about it when he'd rather wanted to go elk hunting instead of racing. Fair enough, do what you like. But at least he...

He was honest about it when he'd rather wanted to go elk hunting instead of racing. Fair enough, do what you like. But at least he came forward and didn't make his team cover for him.

At some point Eli was actually taking heat for Kawasaki’s decision to not let him go, which is why they ended up putting out a press release about not going in 2019 when both Tomac and AC won the motocross titles. The case with Deegan is kind of the exact opposite.

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8/29/2026 8:52am
DeStouwer wrote:
He was honest about it when he'd rather wanted to go elk hunting instead of racing. Fair enough, do what you like. But at least he...

He was honest about it when he'd rather wanted to go elk hunting instead of racing. Fair enough, do what you like. But at least he came forward and didn't make his team cover for him.

At some point Eli was actually taking heat for Kawasaki’s decision to not let him go, which is why they ended up putting out a press...

At some point Eli was actually taking heat for Kawasaki’s decision to not let him go, which is why they ended up putting out a press release about not going in 2019 when both Tomac and AC won the motocross titles. The case with Deegan is kind of the exact opposite.

My discussion about the MXDN has nothing to do with Deegan but everything to do with the money grab by the MXGP. I couldn't care less what Deegan does, I'm not a fan of the guy.

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8/29/2026 8:58am
h20 wrote:

DAMMIT.

This was their redemption to participate in MXON in my opinion!  

Bad look after Prado & Sexton situations!  Damn.  

OH! EXACTELY!They could have . in one SIMPLE MOVE erased years of bad will against Kawi US by just supporting ONE RIDER in Marchbanks at this...

OH! EXACTELY!

They could have . in one SIMPLE MOVE erased years of bad will against Kawi US by just supporting ONE RIDER in Marchbanks at this years MXdN!

Gone!!! is the memory of not allowing Tomac and Cinciarulo to race MXdN....Gone!!! is the Prado and Sexton fiasco!

Americans are forgiving! Just support Garret! and it would have erased years off the bad image for Kawasaki USA. 

But no!!!  Stuborness shale prevail! Damn reading the room for social media ques! We will continue to do the wrong thing at Kawasaki USA forever!!!!

h20 wrote:

Have many MXON have Team USA won without Kawasaki? 

​Out of Team USA’s 23 total MXoN victories, 3 of those winning rosters were formed entirely without a Kawasaki machine 

According to AI

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soggy wrote:

Professionals race for free(meaning no purse money) in MXGP and F1 every weekend. 

gantry25 wrote:
F1 doesn't have a race representing each country like MXDN. Their pay structure and overall  compensation is so overwhelming to compare to even AMA supercross, never...

F1 doesn't have a race representing each country like MXDN. Their pay structure and overall  compensation is so overwhelming to compare to even AMA supercross, never mind MXGP is ridiculous. MXGP can't even fill it's own gates, I don't think I would use that as an example. This is an MXGP race, I am sure some pressure is put on the riders by the FIM to participate in their own series, FIM cannot do this to the US riders and teams.. 

On the Other hand AMA supercross is the big dog. Motocross popularity has declined in America and now with SMX it will become more difficult to field a team from America. Kawasaki's take on it is quite interesting. They stated they would go if it were better organized in the USA. They also stated that the cost to attend the event is at least 75,000 and can be as much as 100,000.00.and that most teams cannot afford it. They also stated there are 31 races they attend in America which means MXDN can only be as important as 32. So there it is, the MXDN is not as important to at least one manufacturer as the other 31 races they run. They said several other things of interest, you should read the article on the front page of Vital. 

Without some changes being made the MXDN will continue to decline. More manufacturers will bow out.

soggy wrote:
MXGP doesn’t need full gates and IMO we need to take from them in this aspect. I believe Luongo has even said there goal isn’t to...

MXGP doesn’t need full gates and IMO we need to take from them in this aspect. I believe Luongo has even said there goal isn’t to have full gates.
MXGP feels like a professional race series with exclusivity. 

USA feels like any tom dick or harry can race in it. Which is cool sometimes but IMO it drags the product down. 

We could cut the last 10 guys out of the field for moto and it would lead to better racing. We’d have less crashes on the starts, and far less lappers to deal with. 

It's exclusive because so few want to race it. They don't want to pay the large entry fee to allow them to race. The whole MXGP structure sucks. The cost to race is nearly 4 times as much as an AMA motocross or supercross race. AMA supercross certainly has the look of a professional race series with enough exclusivity. The look of a half empty gate does not look professional at all. 

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8/29/2026 10:58am
gantry25 wrote:
F1 doesn't have a race representing each country like MXDN. Their pay structure and overall  compensation is so overwhelming to compare to even AMA supercross, never...

F1 doesn't have a race representing each country like MXDN. Their pay structure and overall  compensation is so overwhelming to compare to even AMA supercross, never mind MXGP is ridiculous. MXGP can't even fill it's own gates, I don't think I would use that as an example. This is an MXGP race, I am sure some pressure is put on the riders by the FIM to participate in their own series, FIM cannot do this to the US riders and teams.. 

On the Other hand AMA supercross is the big dog. Motocross popularity has declined in America and now with SMX it will become more difficult to field a team from America. Kawasaki's take on it is quite interesting. They stated they would go if it were better organized in the USA. They also stated that the cost to attend the event is at least 75,000 and can be as much as 100,000.00.and that most teams cannot afford it. They also stated there are 31 races they attend in America which means MXDN can only be as important as 32. So there it is, the MXDN is not as important to at least one manufacturer as the other 31 races they run. They said several other things of interest, you should read the article on the front page of Vital. 

Without some changes being made the MXDN will continue to decline. More manufacturers will bow out.

soggy wrote:
MXGP doesn’t need full gates and IMO we need to take from them in this aspect. I believe Luongo has even said there goal isn’t to...

MXGP doesn’t need full gates and IMO we need to take from them in this aspect. I believe Luongo has even said there goal isn’t to have full gates.
MXGP feels like a professional race series with exclusivity. 

USA feels like any tom dick or harry can race in it. Which is cool sometimes but IMO it drags the product down. 

We could cut the last 10 guys out of the field for moto and it would lead to better racing. We’d have less crashes on the starts, and far less lappers to deal with. 

gantry25 wrote:
It's exclusive because so few want to race it. They don't want to pay the large entry fee to allow them to race. The whole MXGP...

It's exclusive because so few want to race it. They don't want to pay the large entry fee to allow them to race. The whole MXGP structure sucks. The cost to race is nearly 4 times as much as an AMA motocross or supercross race. AMA supercross certainly has the look of a professional race series with enough exclusivity. The look of a half empty gate does not look professional at all. 

AMA Motocross has the look and feel of an MXGP race in China, where the Chinese locals rock up and are rolling around 20 seconds slower than the leaders halfway through the moto. Except, there isn't just a few of them in the AMA, there's often 10. They need to reduce the gates, and get rid of these rolling roadblocks!

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8/29/2026 11:03am
soggy wrote:
MXGP doesn’t need full gates and IMO we need to take from them in this aspect. I believe Luongo has even said there goal isn’t to...

MXGP doesn’t need full gates and IMO we need to take from them in this aspect. I believe Luongo has even said there goal isn’t to have full gates.
MXGP feels like a professional race series with exclusivity. 

USA feels like any tom dick or harry can race in it. Which is cool sometimes but IMO it drags the product down. 

We could cut the last 10 guys out of the field for moto and it would lead to better racing. We’d have less crashes on the starts, and far less lappers to deal with. 

gantry25 wrote:
It's exclusive because so few want to race it. They don't want to pay the large entry fee to allow them to race. The whole MXGP...

It's exclusive because so few want to race it. They don't want to pay the large entry fee to allow them to race. The whole MXGP structure sucks. The cost to race is nearly 4 times as much as an AMA motocross or supercross race. AMA supercross certainly has the look of a professional race series with enough exclusivity. The look of a half empty gate does not look professional at all. 

AMA Motocross has the look and feel of an MXGP race in China, where the Chinese locals rock up and are rolling around 20 seconds slower...

AMA Motocross has the look and feel of an MXGP race in China, where the Chinese locals rock up and are rolling around 20 seconds slower than the leaders halfway through the moto. Except, there isn't just a few of them in the AMA, there's often 10. They need to reduce the gates, and get rid of these rolling roadblocks!

Try 15-20…

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8/29/2026 11:03am
soggy wrote:
MXGP doesn’t need full gates and IMO we need to take from them in this aspect. I believe Luongo has even said there goal isn’t to...

MXGP doesn’t need full gates and IMO we need to take from them in this aspect. I believe Luongo has even said there goal isn’t to have full gates.
MXGP feels like a professional race series with exclusivity. 

USA feels like any tom dick or harry can race in it. Which is cool sometimes but IMO it drags the product down. 

We could cut the last 10 guys out of the field for moto and it would lead to better racing. We’d have less crashes on the starts, and far less lappers to deal with. 

gantry25 wrote:
It's exclusive because so few want to race it. They don't want to pay the large entry fee to allow them to race. The whole MXGP...

It's exclusive because so few want to race it. They don't want to pay the large entry fee to allow them to race. The whole MXGP structure sucks. The cost to race is nearly 4 times as much as an AMA motocross or supercross race. AMA supercross certainly has the look of a professional race series with enough exclusivity. The look of a half empty gate does not look professional at all. 

AMA Motocross has the look and feel of an MXGP race in China, where the Chinese locals rock up and are rolling around 20 seconds slower...

AMA Motocross has the look and feel of an MXGP race in China, where the Chinese locals rock up and are rolling around 20 seconds slower than the leaders halfway through the moto. Except, there isn't just a few of them in the AMA, there's often 10. They need to reduce the gates, and get rid of these rolling roadblocks!

Yelp, No doubt about it AMA motocross sucks! LOL.

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8/29/2026 3:04pm

I would drop Kitchen and promote Eli, I don't think Levi is in the right head space to perform under that much pressure right now. Eli proved today he still has it

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