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7/25/2026 2:45pm
KurtJ99 wrote:

Something is still wrong with Tomac. He practically waived Haarup by after a minor bobble. Not able or willing to push. 

Not comfortable on the bike

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7/25/2026 2:46pm
rsd47 wrote:
The gap between the top 4 and everyone else in this class is crazy. I know we're missing a fit Tomac, Sexton etc, but we really...

The gap between the top 4 and everyone else in this class is crazy. I know we're missing a fit Tomac, Sexton etc, but we really could do with an injection of talent in the next year or two 

kbsci wrote:
For real. I don’t understand how everyone except the Lawrences just have nothing for the rookie. But then you look at the field and who else...

For real. I don’t understand how everyone except the Lawrences just have nothing for the rookie. But then you look at the field and who else would it be? I thought Prado would be clearly better than him and that RJ and Plessinger would battle with him. The 250 class doesn’t have anyone who’s going to make it interesting either. 

Lucas may want some of that ass next year

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Deegan dropped another 12 seconds in 2 laps.  Still learning!  

I don't think he'd have have had anything for the brothers this moto and I'm no fan of his but he's quite obviously not been pushing and trying to save enery since getting into 4th

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kiwifan wrote:

Boring ?? Watching those two ride is dam impressive !!! Deegan adds fun factor to see how close he can get 

Their technique is so dam good it’s boring. 2023 mx he was unstoppable, but i damn near had to take a nap after all the motos.

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7/25/2026 2:47pm

Prado’s ego has got to be taking a beating after that one. Right there with the brothers and just got curb stomped. 

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7/25/2026 2:47pm Edited Date/Time 7/25/2026 2:49pm
ohh_454 wrote:

Decosters about to park Tomacs bike if he keeps riding like this lol

plowboy wrote:

Nope

ohh_454 wrote:
Idk, he parked Russel’s bike, told AC he wasn’t doing more than 4 races in ‘22, and told Dungey his results weren’t good enough on his...

Idk, he parked Russel’s bike, told AC he wasn’t doing more than 4 races in ‘22, and told Dungey his results weren’t good enough on his comeback tour in ‘22 lol at minimum, Roger’s not talking to him after these finishes lol Vohland said he’d get a 7th and Roger wouldn’t even look at him 

He's a tough nut...no denieing that but Eli is a good draw and is near the end.  He's a good ROI.

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7/25/2026 2:47pm

They really put 50 seconds on Prado... wtf

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7/25/2026 2:48pm

Deegan dropped another 12 seconds in 2 laps.  Still learning!  

He’s chilling bro. Relax. I’d bet he could have caught prado, but the amount of effort to get there, then to battle him and potentially not even get the position would have left him spent for moto 2. He did the right thing 100%

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7/25/2026 2:48pm
DonJulio wrote:

Didn’t barcia, Ferrandis and I’m sure some others beat deegs at redbud? U know….the guys Jett beta every single moto in 23

Without the brothers, Deegan would have a 27pt lead. 22-0? No. But that’s beating everyone in the class. You’re a bum. Focused more on one rider...

Without the brothers, Deegan would have a 27pt lead. 22-0? No. But that’s beating everyone in the class. You’re a bum. Focused more on one rider than the sport as a whole. 

Who cares about the points idiot. The argument is deegan would be undefeated against the guys Jett races….well no he would because of redbud and thunder valley. 

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7/25/2026 2:48pm
rsd47 wrote:
SURELY Prado considers a move back to the GPs if SX doesn't go well next season. With Coenen coming over and Herlings, Tim, and Romain on...

SURELY Prado considers a move back to the GPs if SX doesn't go well next season. With Coenen coming over and Herlings, Tim, and Romain on the tail end of the career, Jorge has a much better chance of winning titles back in Europe than he does of ever beating the Lawrence bros 

Deegan to GPs... 

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Deegan dropped another 12 seconds in 2 laps.  Still learning!  

rsd47 wrote:
I don't think he'd have have had anything for the brothers this moto and I'm no fan of his but he's quite obviously not been pushing...

I don't think he'd have have had anything for the brothers this moto and I'm no fan of his but he's quite obviously not been pushing and trying to save enery since getting into 4th

The Deegan haters are so funny they know where that kid is at ALL TIMES. Each lap monitored. Every action noted. The MOST talked about ridder for sure and what's crazy, he hasn't even won a 450 race yet. Imagine when he wins!

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Deegan dropped another 12 seconds in 2 laps.  Still learning!  

deadlo wrote:
He’s chilling bro. Relax. I’d bet he could have caught prado, but the amount of effort to get there, then to battle him and potentially not...

He’s chilling bro. Relax. I’d bet he could have caught prado, but the amount of effort to get there, then to battle him and potentially not even get the position would have left him spent for moto 2. He did the right thing 100%

I am sure that's what he will be telling himself more than a full minute back.  Bring on moto 2 and let's see what changes

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7/25/2026 2:50pm
rsd47 wrote:
SURELY Prado considers a move back to the GPs if SX doesn't go well next season. With Coenen coming over and Herlings, Tim, and Romain on...

SURELY Prado considers a move back to the GPs if SX doesn't go well next season. With Coenen coming over and Herlings, Tim, and Romain on the tail end of the career, Jorge has a much better chance of winning titles back in Europe than he does of ever beating the Lawrence bros 

I guess the rest of the class can consider a move to Europe then

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Deegan dropped another 12 seconds in 2 laps.  Still learning!  

rsd47 wrote:
I don't think he'd have have had anything for the brothers this moto and I'm no fan of his but he's quite obviously not been pushing...

I don't think he'd have have had anything for the brothers this moto and I'm no fan of his but he's quite obviously not been pushing and trying to save enery since getting into 4th

JayDeerTay wrote:
The Deegan haters are so funny they know where that kid is at ALL TIMES. Each lap monitored. Every action noted. The MOST talked about ridder...

The Deegan haters are so funny they know where that kid is at ALL TIMES. Each lap monitored. Every action noted. The MOST talked about ridder for sure and what's crazy, he hasn't even won a 450 race yet. Imagine when he wins!

When will that be? Yall said pala his home track, then it was southwick, then it was Millville, now today…..0-15

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7/25/2026 2:51pm

Deegan to GPs... 

The fastest two guys are here (imo) and I’m sure Deegan is motivated to work hard to see if he can get a little crack in the armor somewhere. 

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7/25/2026 2:51pm
rsd47 wrote:
The gap between the top 4 and everyone else in this class is crazy. I know we're missing a fit Tomac, Sexton etc, but we really...

The gap between the top 4 and everyone else in this class is crazy. I know we're missing a fit Tomac, Sexton etc, but we really could do with an injection of talent in the next year or two 

kbsci wrote:
For real. I don’t understand how everyone except the Lawrences just have nothing for the rookie. But then you look at the field and who else...

For real. I don’t understand how everyone except the Lawrences just have nothing for the rookie. But then you look at the field and who else would it be? I thought Prado would be clearly better than him and that RJ and Plessinger would battle with him. The 250 class doesn’t have anyone who’s going to make it interesting either. 

To be honest I though RJ would be better than Deegan (because he's in rookie year) but Deegan has been better than I gave him credit for 

As for Prado he should be top 3 each week, I am interested to see how he goes in moto 2

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7/25/2026 2:52pm
rsd47 wrote:
The gap between the top 4 and everyone else in this class is crazy. I know we're missing a fit Tomac, Sexton etc, but we really...

The gap between the top 4 and everyone else in this class is crazy. I know we're missing a fit Tomac, Sexton etc, but we really could do with an injection of talent in the next year or two 

kbsci wrote:
For real. I don’t understand how everyone except the Lawrences just have nothing for the rookie. But then you look at the field and who else...

For real. I don’t understand how everyone except the Lawrences just have nothing for the rookie. But then you look at the field and who else would it be? I thought Prado would be clearly better than him and that RJ and Plessinger would battle with him. The 250 class doesn’t have anyone who’s going to make it interesting either. 

The US is in a decade long slump..

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7/25/2026 2:53pm

Welp, I guess I’m eating jlaw fangirl 🐦‍⬛….🙄🤣

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“just gonna keep working hard (and pray one of them crash)”

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rsd47 wrote:
SURELY Prado considers a move back to the GPs if SX doesn't go well next season. With Coenen coming over and Herlings, Tim, and Romain on...

SURELY Prado considers a move back to the GPs if SX doesn't go well next season. With Coenen coming over and Herlings, Tim, and Romain on the tail end of the career, Jorge has a much better chance of winning titles back in Europe than he does of ever beating the Lawrence bros 

crusty_xx wrote:

I guess the rest of the class can consider a move to Europe then

The rest of the class after Prado and Deegan wouldn't even be quick enough to get factory rides over there 🤣

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7/25/2026 2:53pm
KurtJ99 wrote:

Something is still wrong with Tomac. He practically waived Haarup by after a minor bobble. Not able or willing to push. 

One thing is for sure, he won't tell us what's wrong.  We will just be left wondering why he is back there with guys showing up...

One thing is for sure, he won't tell us what's wrong.  We will just be left wondering why he is back there with guys showing up in an El Camino and a 3 rail trailer.

Ain't nothing wrong per say... it's just over... it's like watching js7, mc, or pretty much any legend when they didnt retire until they were well past their prime.... rc was different... he was fast at the end.. as were rv and the dunge, who retired while they were still fast.. but for et3 seems hes gonna keep racing until they refuse to pay him anymore.... 

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7/25/2026 2:54pm

Deegan, haha, He is fun to watch come through the field though. 

Tomac, it's retirement time. His last 5-6 races have been disastrous. 

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“We keep getting closer and closer every moto and it was a dog fight to the end.”

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7/25/2026 2:54pm

Jesus Katie Osborne might actually be the worst....

51 moto starts and 69.... motos?

How can you mix up a basic stat as wins vs starts.

Bring back Haley Shanley. Katie just makes the broadcast look like amateur hour.

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Deegan to GPs... 

The fastest two guys are here (imo) and I’m sure Deegan is motivated to work hard to see if he can get a little crack in...

The fastest two guys are here (imo) and I’m sure Deegan is motivated to work hard to see if he can get a little crack in the armor somewhere. 

I see that take over and over again but it really depends. We've seen what Lucas can do at Thunder Valley on a track he saw for the first time. Herlings on some weekends has Lucas covered. Would be really fun if we had those four together in a championship, I think they're the only two in the world that can legitimately beat them straight up on multiple tracks

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7/25/2026 2:55pm Edited Date/Time 7/25/2026 2:56pm
rsd47 wrote:
SURELY Prado considers a move back to the GPs if SX doesn't go well next season. With Coenen coming over and Herlings, Tim, and Romain on...

SURELY Prado considers a move back to the GPs if SX doesn't go well next season. With Coenen coming over and Herlings, Tim, and Romain on the tail end of the career, Jorge has a much better chance of winning titles back in Europe than he does of ever beating the Lawrence bros 

crusty_xx wrote:

I guess the rest of the class can consider a move to Europe then

rsd47 wrote:

The rest of the class after Prado and Deegan wouldn't even be quick enough to get factory rides over there 🤣

And 98% of the GP couldnt get a ride for SX. So the point? 
 

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Deegan dropped another 12 seconds in 2 laps.  Still learning!  

rsd47 wrote:
I don't think he'd have have had anything for the brothers this moto and I'm no fan of his but he's quite obviously not been pushing...

I don't think he'd have have had anything for the brothers this moto and I'm no fan of his but he's quite obviously not been pushing and trying to save enery since getting into 4th

JayDeerTay wrote:
The Deegan haters are so funny they know where that kid is at ALL TIMES. Each lap monitored. Every action noted. The MOST talked about ridder...

The Deegan haters are so funny they know where that kid is at ALL TIMES. Each lap monitored. Every action noted. The MOST talked about ridder for sure and what's crazy, he hasn't even won a 450 race yet. Imagine when he wins!

He will win at some stage (duh not rocket science there) but perhaps not in 2026, in all honesty a few things need to go his way to do that (same with the other 37 riders in the pack)

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rsd47 wrote:
The gap between the top 4 and everyone else in this class is crazy. I know we're missing a fit Tomac, Sexton etc, but we really...

The gap between the top 4 and everyone else in this class is crazy. I know we're missing a fit Tomac, Sexton etc, but we really could do with an injection of talent in the next year or two 

JJO741 wrote:
Might be a while. The current 250 class outside of Davies has no consistency at the moment and will slot right into that just inside the...

Might be a while. The current 250 class outside of Davies has no consistency at the moment and will slot right into that just inside the top 10 spot. 

tuttle425 wrote:

Davis is consistent?

Overall, since jumping to pro in 2025, I’d say yes. He has shown the ability to win in both disciplines in a short amount of time, while showing brilliance in supercross. He is already showing big improvement this year as well. Vets and young guys in the 250 class have been all over the place. Guys like Kitchen, Shimoda, Hymas, Hammaker, etc. have yet to take the next step despite being established in the 250 class. Young guys like Ryder D, Bennick, Beaumer, etc. are very inconsistent. The new guys are also all over the place. There’s a lot of talent, but Davies is the only one in my opinion showing the ability to take the next step to dominance. 

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7/25/2026 2:57pm

Deegan dropped another 12 seconds in 2 laps.  Still learning!  

rsd47 wrote:
I don't think he'd have have had anything for the brothers this moto and I'm no fan of his but he's quite obviously not been pushing...

I don't think he'd have have had anything for the brothers this moto and I'm no fan of his but he's quite obviously not been pushing and trying to save enery since getting into 4th

JayDeerTay wrote:
The Deegan haters are so funny they know where that kid is at ALL TIMES. Each lap monitored. Every action noted. The MOST talked about ridder...

The Deegan haters are so funny they know where that kid is at ALL TIMES. Each lap monitored. Every action noted. The MOST talked about ridder for sure and what's crazy, he hasn't even won a 450 race yet. Imagine when he wins!

Is there an award for "Most talked about rider"? 

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