Surprised, no one is sayin, Lucas and Sasha's boss has to be pissed...

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AMetts wrote:
Sacha might have made more money for himself with that performance in future money here in America than he will winning that MX2 championship. Bargaining power in...

Sacha might have made more money for himself with that performance in future money here in America than he will winning that MX2 championship. 

Bargaining power in his future US MX deal, he smoked the field he will be racing. Gear companies will throw more money at him because he can win and people over here already love him.

When are the brothers coming over full time?

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When are the brothers coming over full time?

Next year if I’m not mistaken. 

What I’m not sure of is if that includes Supercross or if they’re scheduled to start here when outdoors 2027 starts. Someone here has to know. 

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AMetts wrote:
Sacha might have made more money for himself with that performance in future money here in America than he will winning that MX2 championship. Bargaining power in...

Sacha might have made more money for himself with that performance in future money here in America than he will winning that MX2 championship. 

Bargaining power in his future US MX deal, he smoked the field he will be racing. Gear companies will throw more money at him because he can win and people over here already love him.

JT eluded to this on the Pulp post race show--seems like the bidding wars have already begun, and Fly wouldn't have the budget next year to keep them. So, I think you're spot on.

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If i were their boss Id be pissed. Lucas crash was avoidable. KTM has been so reliable for years & now 2 engine failures this season...

If i were their boss Id be pissed. Lucas crash was avoidable. KTM has been so reliable for years & now 2 engine failures this season is not a good look. As for Sacha, the rumour is the rear shock was heating & contributed. Was it cochranes shock smoking in moto 1? & Vialle & RH complained last year the shock has serious issues.

For Sacha I saw him jump into a hole and g-out - can't rule out a shock problem, but it was sketchy from lap 1. He really out to wear the Magoo butt-patch because he is a clone; fast as hell between crashes. 

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If i were their boss Id be pissed. Lucas crash was avoidable. KTM has been so reliable for years & now 2 engine failures this season...

If i were their boss Id be pissed. Lucas crash was avoidable. KTM has been so reliable for years & now 2 engine failures this season is not a good look. As for Sacha, the rumour is the rear shock was heating & contributed. Was it cochranes shock smoking in moto 1? & Vialle & RH complained last year the shock has serious issues.

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For Sacha I saw him jump into a hole and g-out - can't rule out a shock problem, but it was sketchy from lap 1. He...

For Sacha I saw him jump into a hole and g-out - can't rule out a shock problem, but it was sketchy from lap 1. He really out to wear the Magoo butt-patch because he is a clone; fast as hell between crashes. 

Yes, love it. Magoo Jr. Sacha knows how to win fans! You have to really appreciate someone who rides fearlessly and is willing to send it, even in a race that does not count for his MXGP run. We should all appreciate talent and drive like that. I do.

The kid wants to live life to the fullest and is willing to take the risk. Very admirable. People here who say he is stupid and should slow down just need to be quiet. It's his life and career, not theirs. He can ride however he wants to. 

I bet he doesn't even feel like he is riding 'over his head'. Lewis should ask him that.

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Yes, love it. Magoo Jr. Sacha knows how to win fans! You have to really appreciate someone who rides fearlessly and is willing to send it...

Yes, love it. Magoo Jr. Sacha knows how to win fans! You have to really appreciate someone who rides fearlessly and is willing to send it, even in a race that does not count for his MXGP run. We should all appreciate talent and drive like that. I do.

The kid wants to live life to the fullest and is willing to take the risk. Very admirable. People here who say he is stupid and should slow down just need to be quiet. It's his life and career, not theirs. He can ride however he wants to. 

I bet he doesn't even feel like he is riding 'over his head'. Lewis should ask him that.

Lewis actually alluded to that very thing in the latest post race podcast. He says Sacha can't understand why people think he rides over his head,  because in his own opinion, he's not riding on the edge of his abilities.

The kid is just comfortable being uncomfortable I guess.  A good problem to have in this sport. 

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Yes, love it. Magoo Jr. Sacha knows how to win fans! You have to really appreciate someone who rides fearlessly and is willing to send it...

Yes, love it. Magoo Jr. Sacha knows how to win fans! You have to really appreciate someone who rides fearlessly and is willing to send it, even in a race that does not count for his MXGP run. We should all appreciate talent and drive like that. I do.

The kid wants to live life to the fullest and is willing to take the risk. Very admirable. People here who say he is stupid and should slow down just need to be quiet. It's his life and career, not theirs. He can ride however he wants to. 

I bet he doesn't even feel like he is riding 'over his head'. Lewis should ask him that.

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Lewis actually alluded to that very thing in the latest post race podcast. He says Sacha can't understand why people think he rides over his head...

Lewis actually alluded to that very thing in the latest post race podcast. He says Sacha can't understand why people think he rides over his head,  because in his own opinion, he's not riding on the edge of his abilities.

The kid is just comfortable being uncomfortable I guess.  A good problem to have in this sport. 

I want to know what was going on in Davies head on that 1st lap in Moto 1. He had a front row seat at watching him almost eat it a number of times lol. 

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All I can say is that those brothers are going to be a problem when they get here next year. 

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Yea sacha on the first lap of moto 1 was like holy shit wtf is this! Lol. Was low siding high siding almost crashed 27 times...

Yea sacha on the first lap of moto 1 was like holy shit wtf is this! Lol. Was low siding high siding almost crashed 27 times, it was awesome to watch him save all those. 

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I'm surprised KTM didn't get protested for running that aluminum frame. 

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TalinH112 wrote:

All I can say is that those brothers are going to be a problem when they get here next year. 

Both of the brothers were fun to watch this weekend. The speed out of both of them is super impressive, hope we get to see them in the outdoor natiionals next year. I however also hope that Sacha especially, but both really, do not race supercross. I don't see how Sacha will survive a season of supercross, it's a completely different animal that does not support Sacha's style of riding longterm. I would hate to see either of the brothers careers curtailed due to trying to race supercross. 

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TalinH112 wrote:

All I can say is that those brothers are going to be a problem when they get here next year. 

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Both of the brothers were fun to watch this weekend. The speed out of both of them is super impressive, hope we get to see them...

Both of the brothers were fun to watch this weekend. The speed out of both of them is super impressive, hope we get to see them in the outdoor natiionals next year. I however also hope that Sacha especially, but both really, do not race supercross. I don't see how Sacha will survive a season of supercross, it's a completely different animal that does not support Sacha's style of riding longterm. I would hate to see either of the brothers careers curtailed due to trying to race supercross. 

Agreed! 

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TalinH112 wrote:

All I can say is that those brothers are going to be a problem when they get here next year. 

gantry25 wrote:
Both of the brothers were fun to watch this weekend. The speed out of both of them is super impressive, hope we get to see them...

Both of the brothers were fun to watch this weekend. The speed out of both of them is super impressive, hope we get to see them in the outdoor natiionals next year. I however also hope that Sacha especially, but both really, do not race supercross. I don't see how Sacha will survive a season of supercross, it's a completely different animal that does not support Sacha's style of riding longterm. I would hate to see either of the brothers careers curtailed due to trying to race supercross. 

I don’t think will survive an outdoor season in the US, unless he starts riding smarter.

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Someone at KTM needs to have a talk with Sacha, the kid crasher way too much! If he keeps this he is going to have a very short career and a very painful life to look forward to. The kid is incredible such talent and no one can say he is not tough or committed he just needs to tone it down a little. 

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kpiper wrote:
Yes, love it. Magoo Jr. Sacha knows how to win fans! You have to really appreciate someone who rides fearlessly and is willing to send it...

Yes, love it. Magoo Jr. Sacha knows how to win fans! You have to really appreciate someone who rides fearlessly and is willing to send it, even in a race that does not count for his MXGP run. We should all appreciate talent and drive like that. I do.

The kid wants to live life to the fullest and is willing to take the risk. Very admirable. People here who say he is stupid and should slow down just need to be quiet. It's his life and career, not theirs. He can ride however he wants to. 

I bet he doesn't even feel like he is riding 'over his head'. Lewis should ask him that.

TK40_FC wrote:
Lewis actually alluded to that very thing in the latest post race podcast. He says Sacha can't understand why people think he rides over his head...

Lewis actually alluded to that very thing in the latest post race podcast. He says Sacha can't understand why people think he rides over his head,  because in his own opinion, he's not riding on the edge of his abilities.

The kid is just comfortable being uncomfortable I guess.  A good problem to have in this sport. 

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I want to know what was going on in Davies head on that 1st lap in Moto 1. He had a front row seat at watching...

I want to know what was going on in Davies head on that 1st lap in Moto 1. He had a front row seat at watching him almost eat it a number of times lol. 

I had the same thought during the race like he checked up a little to not get tangled up with him if he crashed right in front of him lol

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Millville would’ve been a much better track for them, but obviously didn’t work for their schedule.

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Mit12 wrote:
Someone at KTM needs to have a talk with Sacha, the kid crasher way too much! If he keeps this he is going to have a...

Someone at KTM needs to have a talk with Sacha, the kid crasher way too much! If he keeps this he is going to have a very short career and a very painful life to look forward to. The kid is incredible such talent and no one can say he is not tough or committed he just needs to tone it down a little. 

Sacha is not an incredible talent.😉

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I think they would’ve loved riding Millville the weekend! And we would’ve loved to see it!!

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Millville would’ve been a much better track for them, but obviously didn’t work for their schedule.

They went 1-1 in qualifying, Sacha went 1-1 and Lucas came from 40 - 4th with time remaining in the first moto. Not sure how it could have been better that southwick 

 

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Them and everyone in their circle knew the risks of racing this schedule. It is what it is, things happen in racing, I’m sure they just deal with it and move on. They both have a long bright future ahead. 

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They went 1-1 in qualifying, Sacha went 1-1 and Lucas came from 40 - 4th with time remaining in the first moto. Not sure how it...

They went 1-1 in qualifying, Sacha went 1-1 and Lucas came from 40 - 4th with time remaining in the first moto. Not sure how it could have been better that southwick 

 

They did, but I disagree that this was the best possible national for them.

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Weege Wednesday just said that Ian said they didn’t find anything wrong with Lucas’s bike…. Is that possible?  

Do we really have the same situation as with Chase at Thunder Valley?

WTH is going on??  

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Weege Wednesday just said that Ian said they didn’t find anything wrong with Lucas’s bike…. Is that possible?  Do we really have the same situation as...

Weege Wednesday just said that Ian said they didn’t find anything wrong with Lucas’s bike…. Is that possible?  

Do we really have the same situation as with Chase at Thunder Valley?

WTH is going on??  

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Nothing to be pissed at. They're still gonna win. 

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Nah, they were there to "learn, have fun and not take any risks".

I don't think Sacha has a clue what "not taking any risks" actually means. 

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Indeed.  Sacha is an absolute joy to watch race.  We haven't seen this type of balls-to-the wall riding since the early Carmichael/Stewart days. 

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Mit12 wrote:
Someone at KTM needs to have a talk with Sacha, the kid crasher way too much! If he keeps this he is going to have a...

Someone at KTM needs to have a talk with Sacha, the kid crasher way too much! If he keeps this he is going to have a very short career and a very painful life to look forward to. The kid is incredible such talent and no one can say he is not tough or committed he just needs to tone it down a little. 

Do you really think nobody tried before ? KTM, De Carli, his friends, his (French) agent... Sacha rides the same and only way he knows since the beginning. He was already the same on 85. The guy just does not accept losing and doesn't even get why everyone is tripping over this. I understand Americans are not used to it yet, but it was just a standard Sacha day saturday, except he avoids injuries most of the time. Sacha has more heart than pretty much everybody in the field. 

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Mit12 wrote:
Someone at KTM needs to have a talk with Sacha, the kid crasher way too much! If he keeps this he is going to have a...

Someone at KTM needs to have a talk with Sacha, the kid crasher way too much! If he keeps this he is going to have a very short career and a very painful life to look forward to. The kid is incredible such talent and no one can say he is not tough or committed he just needs to tone it down a little. 

Rad76 wrote:
Do you really think nobody tried before ? KTM, De Carli, his friends, his (French) agent... Sacha rides the same and only way he knows since...

Do you really think nobody tried before ? KTM, De Carli, his friends, his (French) agent... Sacha rides the same and only way he knows since the beginning. He was already the same on 85. The guy just does not accept losing and doesn't even get why everyone is tripping over this. I understand Americans are not used to it yet, but it was just a standard Sacha day saturday, except he avoids injuries most of the time. Sacha has more heart than pretty much everybody in the field. 

Reminds me a lot of James Stewart, all the speed in the world. Either wins or crashes, there is no in between. Awesome to watch him ride! 

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Press516 wrote:
Weege Wednesday just said that Ian said they didn’t find anything wrong with Lucas’s bike…. Is that possible?  Do we really have the same situation as...

Weege Wednesday just said that Ian said they didn’t find anything wrong with Lucas’s bike…. Is that possible?  

Do we really have the same situation as with Chase at Thunder Valley?

WTH is going on??  

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Lucas's bike was in a panic rev while he was endoing through the air....how is that an engine failure? He hit a soft spot that bucked him over the bars! 

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Press516 wrote:
Weege Wednesday just said that Ian said they didn’t find anything wrong with Lucas’s bike…. Is that possible?  Do we really have the same situation as...

Weege Wednesday just said that Ian said they didn’t find anything wrong with Lucas’s bike…. Is that possible?  

Do we really have the same situation as with Chase at Thunder Valley?

WTH is going on??  

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JF953 wrote:
Lucas's bike was in a panic rev while he was endoing through the air....how is that an engine failure? He hit a soft spot that bucked...

Lucas's bike was in a panic rev while he was endoing through the air....how is that an engine failure? He hit a soft spot that bucked him over the bars! 

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TalinH112 wrote:
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JF953 wrote:
Lucas's bike was in a panic rev while he was endoing through the air....how is that an engine failure? He hit a soft spot that bucked...

Lucas's bike was in a panic rev while he was endoing through the air....how is that an engine failure? He hit a soft spot that bucked him over the bars! 

TalinH112 wrote:

Watch the the clip from the actual race, full panic rev in the air, not locked up like Weege says!

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JF953 wrote:
Lucas's bike was in a panic rev while he was endoing through the air....how is that an engine failure? He hit a soft spot that bucked...

Lucas's bike was in a panic rev while he was endoing through the air....how is that an engine failure? He hit a soft spot that bucked him over the bars! 

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JF953 wrote:

Watch the the clip from the actual race, full panic rev in the air, not locked up like Weege says!

I am not going off what Weege said, Lucas most certainly did not hit a soft spot. I am not some insider or anything but from what I see with my eyes there is no G-out that kicked him into an endo. Which leaves one explanation. 

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