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Your first statement im fine with for congress.President not so much at all.Also quit the bullshit on trumps losing his mind. I have way to many first...

Your first statement im fine with for congress.

President not so much at all.

Also quit the bullshit on trumps losing his mind. 

I have way to many first hand accounts of how hard working he was the first term and even this term. I can tell you point blank from my buddy who was secret service for him first term now in the doh and still has to be out at the WH regularly that man is still busting ass at all hours of the day.

I get tired of the bullshit of hes got early dementia ect ect. I hope everyone of those fucktard has a loved one that gets it at least as bad a dementia joe so they can see forst hand how fucked up what they said was.

I've had 3 close family memebers with it from 55 years old to 73. Plus a few exes with family memebers with it. Its not a joke and its old hearing it just like hes a nazi. 

 

Welp according to that genius the Islamic Japanese have shot 111 missiles an hour at one of our aircraft carriers in the Straight if Hormuz. He is very on top of shit . 
And Zelenskyy‘s nickname must be Putin? 

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Your first statement im fine with for congress.President not so much at all.Also quit the bullshit on trumps losing his mind. I have way to many first...

Your first statement im fine with for congress.

President not so much at all.

Also quit the bullshit on trumps losing his mind. 

I have way to many first hand accounts of how hard working he was the first term and even this term. I can tell you point blank from my buddy who was secret service for him first term now in the doh and still has to be out at the WH regularly that man is still busting ass at all hours of the day.

I get tired of the bullshit of hes got early dementia ect ect. I hope everyone of those fucktard has a loved one that gets it at least as bad a dementia joe so they can see forst hand how fucked up what they said was.

I've had 3 close family memebers with it from 55 years old to 73. Plus a few exes with family memebers with it. Its not a joke and its old hearing it just like hes a nazi. 

 

regularly posting rants on social media at 3 am = busting one's ass?

Listen, I voted for the guy. but I am not and have never been a trump stumper.

I hate the options that we had in the last 3 presidential elections.

He was the lesser of two evils and has been a true disappointment in this second term.

No 80 year old has any business being president of this country or legislating.

It should be the same age limit as airline pilots.

If you can't be trusted to fly a jet full of people you certainly should not be running a country.

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Our votes don’t matter anyway. 

Crazy thing is most folks still believe they actually count the votes….. 🤣🤣.   And, how about those nutty Brits who have ‘snap elections’ every three weeks. 😑

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Your first statement im fine with for congress.President not so much at all.Also quit the bullshit on trumps losing his mind. I have way to many first...

Your first statement im fine with for congress.

President not so much at all.

Also quit the bullshit on trumps losing his mind. 

I have way to many first hand accounts of how hard working he was the first term and even this term. I can tell you point blank from my buddy who was secret service for him first term now in the doh and still has to be out at the WH regularly that man is still busting ass at all hours of the day.

I get tired of the bullshit of hes got early dementia ect ect. I hope everyone of those fucktard has a loved one that gets it at least as bad a dementia joe so they can see forst hand how fucked up what they said was.

I've had 3 close family memebers with it from 55 years old to 73. Plus a few exes with family memebers with it. Its not a joke and its old hearing it just like hes a nazi. 

 

JustMX wrote:
regularly posting rants on social media at 3 am = busting one's ass?Listen, I voted for the guy. but I am not and have never been...

regularly posting rants on social media at 3 am = busting one's ass?

Listen, I voted for the guy. but I am not and have never been a trump stumper.

I hate the options that we had in the last 3 presidential elections.

He was the lesser of two evils and has been a true disappointment in this second term.

No 80 year old has any business being president of this country or legislating.

It should be the same age limit as airline pilots.

If you can't be trusted to fly a jet full of people you certainly should not be running a country.

I know many 80 year old folk that would put just about any board member here to shame. I also know a lot of 40 year olds that would make us all look like geniuses. It's not the age!

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joshd wrote:

Our votes don’t matter anyway. 

El Capitan wrote:
Crazy thing is most folks still believe they actually count the votes….. 🤣🤣.   And, how about those nutty Brits who have ‘snap elections’ every three...

Crazy thing is most folks still believe they actually count the votes….. 🤣🤣.   And, how about those nutty Brits who have ‘snap elections’ every three weeks. 😑

If they were in CA they'd have to wait longer for results than the next election 🤣🤣🤣

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So, what’s the deal…is Mitch’s wife a ChiCom or what? 

Well, she was born in Taiwan to parents who fled China to get away from the ChiComs, wasn’t she?  I can’t say that I’m completely informed on her early life or what her parents did to make money. 

My son married a wonderful young woman whose parents were both from Taiwan and the parents were each brought to the US as children.  My daughter in law’s grandparents also fled during the Chinese revolution. I don’t think I know people who are more opposed to the ‘ChiComs’ than they (the whole family) are……

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TeamGreen wrote:

So, what’s the deal…is Mitch’s wife a ChiCom or what? 

APLMAN99 wrote:
Well, she was born in Taiwan to parents who fled China to get away from the ChiComs, wasn’t she?  I can’t say that I’m completely informed...

Well, she was born in Taiwan to parents who fled China to get away from the ChiComs, wasn’t she?  I can’t say that I’m completely informed on her early life or what her parents did to make money. 

My son married a wonderful young woman whose parents were both from Taiwan and the parents were each brought to the US as children.  My daughter in law’s grandparents also fled during the Chinese revolution. I don’t think I know people who are more opposed to the ‘ChiComs’ than they (the whole family) are……

Is her “Family Owned” shipping company Chinese or Taiwanese? Does she fly back to Taiwan or China for these high-level meetings with government officials…while her husband is in the hospital…?

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TeamGreen wrote:

So, what’s the deal…is Mitch’s wife a ChiCom or what? 

APLMAN99 wrote:
Well, she was born in Taiwan to parents who fled China to get away from the ChiComs, wasn’t she?  I can’t say that I’m completely informed...

Well, she was born in Taiwan to parents who fled China to get away from the ChiComs, wasn’t she?  I can’t say that I’m completely informed on her early life or what her parents did to make money. 

My son married a wonderful young woman whose parents were both from Taiwan and the parents were each brought to the US as children.  My daughter in law’s grandparents also fled during the Chinese revolution. I don’t think I know people who are more opposed to the ‘ChiComs’ than they (the whole family) are……

TeamGreen wrote:
Is her “Family Owned” shipping company Chinese or Taiwanese? Does she fly back to Taiwan or China for these high-level meetings with government officials…while her husband...

Is her “Family Owned” shipping company Chinese or Taiwanese? Does she fly back to Taiwan or China for these high-level meetings with government officials…while her husband is in the hospital…?

Foremost isn’t a Chinese or Taiwanese company. It’s an American company headquartered in New York that’s owned by an American family. Doing business in China is not the same as being Chinese any more than Apple or Boeing are Chinese because they do business there.

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Well, she was born in Taiwan to parents who fled China to get away from the ChiComs, wasn’t she?  I can’t say that I’m completely informed...

Well, she was born in Taiwan to parents who fled China to get away from the ChiComs, wasn’t she?  I can’t say that I’m completely informed on her early life or what her parents did to make money. 

My son married a wonderful young woman whose parents were both from Taiwan and the parents were each brought to the US as children.  My daughter in law’s grandparents also fled during the Chinese revolution. I don’t think I know people who are more opposed to the ‘ChiComs’ than they (the whole family) are……

TeamGreen wrote:
Is her “Family Owned” shipping company Chinese or Taiwanese? Does she fly back to Taiwan or China for these high-level meetings with government officials…while her husband...

Is her “Family Owned” shipping company Chinese or Taiwanese? Does she fly back to Taiwan or China for these high-level meetings with government officials…while her husband is in the hospital…?

APLMAN99 wrote:
Foremost isn’t a Chinese or Taiwanese company. It’s an American company headquartered in New York that’s owned by an American family. Doing business in China is...

Foremost isn’t a Chinese or Taiwanese company. It’s an American company headquartered in New York that’s owned by an American family. Doing business in China is not the same as being Chinese any more than Apple or Boeing are Chinese because they do business there.

Oh, you mean that company founded and owned by the Chao family?

The Chinese Chaos? As in immigrated from CHINA via TAIWAN?

That company?

Where are their major shipping contracts from…who are they with?

 

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Well the narrative has spoken.

SMFH.

She immediately bails, heads to china, with I'm sure nothing more than American/Formosa interests as the priority. 

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TeamGreen wrote:
Is her “Family Owned” shipping company Chinese or Taiwanese? Does she fly back to Taiwan or China for these high-level meetings with government officials…while her husband...

Is her “Family Owned” shipping company Chinese or Taiwanese? Does she fly back to Taiwan or China for these high-level meetings with government officials…while her husband is in the hospital…?

APLMAN99 wrote:
Foremost isn’t a Chinese or Taiwanese company. It’s an American company headquartered in New York that’s owned by an American family. Doing business in China is...

Foremost isn’t a Chinese or Taiwanese company. It’s an American company headquartered in New York that’s owned by an American family. Doing business in China is not the same as being Chinese any more than Apple or Boeing are Chinese because they do business there.

TeamGreen wrote:
Oh, you mean that company founded and owned by the Chao family?The Chinese Chaos? As in immigrated from CHINA via TAIWAN?That company?Where are their major shipping...

Oh, you mean that company founded and owned by the Chao family?

The Chinese Chaos? As in immigrated from CHINA via TAIWAN?

That company?

Where are their major shipping contracts from…who are they with?

 

So let me make sure I understand your standard.

Trump-branded merchandise was manufactured in China. Ivanka's business relied heavily on Chinese factories. Trump repeatedly praised Xi Jinping when it served his interests.

Are the Trumps 'ChiComs' too?

Or is that label reserved for Americans of Chinese ancestry/ethnicity whose families actually fled the Communist regime?

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APLMAN99 wrote:
Foremost isn’t a Chinese or Taiwanese company. It’s an American company headquartered in New York that’s owned by an American family. Doing business in China is...

Foremost isn’t a Chinese or Taiwanese company. It’s an American company headquartered in New York that’s owned by an American family. Doing business in China is not the same as being Chinese any more than Apple or Boeing are Chinese because they do business there.

TeamGreen wrote:
Oh, you mean that company founded and owned by the Chao family?The Chinese Chaos? As in immigrated from CHINA via TAIWAN?That company?Where are their major shipping...

Oh, you mean that company founded and owned by the Chao family?

The Chinese Chaos? As in immigrated from CHINA via TAIWAN?

That company?

Where are their major shipping contracts from…who are they with?

 

APLMAN99 wrote:
So let me make sure I understand your standard.Trump-branded merchandise was manufactured in China. Ivanka's business relied heavily on Chinese factories. Trump repeatedly praised Xi Jinping...

So let me make sure I understand your standard.

Trump-branded merchandise was manufactured in China. Ivanka's business relied heavily on Chinese factories. Trump repeatedly praised Xi Jinping when it served his interests.

Are the Trumps 'ChiComs' too?

Or is that label reserved for Americans of Chinese ancestry/ethnicity whose families actually fled the Communist regime?

The actual issue at hand…aside from your “spin”…aside from your attempts at misdirection…

Elaine Chao, senior government official in Raegan-Bush-Trump admins…with a family owned mega-shipping company…a company that makes its money due to very accommodating Chinese contracts…flies off to CHINA for some serious hi-level mtgs…in CHINA…not Taiwan…

While Mitch is in the hospital with some very serious health issues. Huh. 

It’s almost as if you don’t know who we’re talking about…here…

Are you aware of who she is? Her various cabinet and hi-level posts…over the last…what…?

FORTY YEARS?

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TeamGreen wrote:
Oh, you mean that company founded and owned by the Chao family?The Chinese Chaos? As in immigrated from CHINA via TAIWAN?That company?Where are their major shipping...

Oh, you mean that company founded and owned by the Chao family?

The Chinese Chaos? As in immigrated from CHINA via TAIWAN?

That company?

Where are their major shipping contracts from…who are they with?

 

APLMAN99 wrote:
So let me make sure I understand your standard.Trump-branded merchandise was manufactured in China. Ivanka's business relied heavily on Chinese factories. Trump repeatedly praised Xi Jinping...

So let me make sure I understand your standard.

Trump-branded merchandise was manufactured in China. Ivanka's business relied heavily on Chinese factories. Trump repeatedly praised Xi Jinping when it served his interests.

Are the Trumps 'ChiComs' too?

Or is that label reserved for Americans of Chinese ancestry/ethnicity whose families actually fled the Communist regime?

TeamGreen wrote:
The actual issue at hand…aside from your “spin”…aside from your attempts at misdirection…Elaine Chao, senior government official in Raegan-Bush-Trump admins…with a family owned mega-shipping company…a company...

The actual issue at hand…aside from your “spin”…aside from your attempts at misdirection…

Elaine Chao, senior government official in Raegan-Bush-Trump admins…with a family owned mega-shipping company…a company that makes its money due to very accommodating Chinese contracts…flies off to CHINA for some serious hi-level mtgs…in CHINA…not Taiwan…

While Mitch is in the hospital with some very serious health issues. Huh. 

It’s almost as if you don’t know who we’re talking about…here…

Are you aware of who she is? Her various cabinet and hi-level posts…over the last…what…?

FORTY YEARS?

You know what really stands out here?

We are constantly lectured by people that American citizens should just be 'American' instead of 'African-American', 'Asian-American', or any other label.

Yet the moment someone's last name is Chao, they suddenly become 'the Chinese Chaos'.

Not 'the American family'.  Not 'the New York shipping company',  Not 'the family that fled Communist China'.  Just 'the Chinese Chaos'.

That's the same mentality that led people to scream "Go back to China" at Asian-Americans during COVID, people who were just as American as you or me. My own daughter-in-law, whose family fled the Communists also, was told in a Costco to "go home and take your China virus with you" because of that type of prejudice.  

You're doing the same thing here. You're treating ethnicity as evidence of divided loyalty.  If Elaine Chao violated ethics rules, present the evidence. If she committed a crime, I'm all for her being prosecuted.  I'm not defending her as a businessperson or saying she is an ethical saint, but just calling out the bullshit of inferring she is an agent of the CCP because of her ethnicity.  

If your strongest argument is that she's ethnically Chinese, her family has Chinese roots, and therefore she must be a 'ChiCom', that's not evidence. That's prejudice.

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No one would be suspicious of anything if she did not fly off to China while her husband is on his deathbed. Makes some people wonder where her priorities are. Does that make sense?

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No one would be suspicious of anything if she did not fly off to China while her husband is on his deathbed. Makes some people wonder...

No one would be suspicious of anything if she did not fly off to China while her husband is on his deathbed. Makes some people wonder where her priorities are. Does that make sense?

She just flew off for a relaxing jaunt along the great wall.

Any thoughts to the contrary, gets you labeled as, "prejudiced".

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In regard to his wife, mighty suspicious on timing IF he’s as bad off as they say. Really no surprise, some congressional representatives are essentially organized crime, they just control the laws that would make it illegal. Average joes would be fired pulling half the crap they pull. 

Really no surprise to me, I highly doubt Hillary and Bill are married although their certificate still says so 🙂

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R66 wrote:
No one would be suspicious of anything if she did not fly off to China while her husband is on his deathbed. Makes some people wonder...

No one would be suspicious of anything if she did not fly off to China while her husband is on his deathbed. Makes some people wonder where her priorities are. Does that make sense?

Questioning whether or not she is a selfish, money driven person who would rather make money than be by the side of her husband is fine.  And it might very well be true.  

Calling her and her family 'ChiComs' and relying on ethnic tropes is a different thing entirely.  

I am not defending any of Chao's actions, nor McConnell's.  

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R66 wrote:
No one would be suspicious of anything if she did not fly off to China while her husband is on his deathbed. Makes some people wonder...

No one would be suspicious of anything if she did not fly off to China while her husband is on his deathbed. Makes some people wonder where her priorities are. Does that make sense?

APLMAN99 wrote:
Questioning whether or not she is a selfish, money driven person who would rather make money than be by the side of her husband is fine...

Questioning whether or not she is a selfish, money driven person who would rather make money than be by the side of her husband is fine.  And it might very well be true.  

Calling her and her family 'ChiComs' and relying on ethnic tropes is a different thing entirely.  

I am not defending any of Chao's actions, nor McConnell's.  

So you agree being suspicious is justified. Maybe for the reasons you stated but maybe for some other reason. 

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R66 wrote:
No one would be suspicious of anything if she did not fly off to China while her husband is on his deathbed. Makes some people wonder...

No one would be suspicious of anything if she did not fly off to China while her husband is on his deathbed. Makes some people wonder where her priorities are. Does that make sense?

APLMAN99 wrote:
Questioning whether or not she is a selfish, money driven person who would rather make money than be by the side of her husband is fine...

Questioning whether or not she is a selfish, money driven person who would rather make money than be by the side of her husband is fine.  And it might very well be true.  

Calling her and her family 'ChiComs' and relying on ethnic tropes is a different thing entirely.  

I am not defending any of Chao's actions, nor McConnell's.  

R66 wrote:

So you agree being suspicious is justified. Maybe for the reasons you stated but maybe for some other reason. 

Depends on what you are referring to.  Suspicious that she might put greed over family?  Probably.  And that also probably be said for a lot of people not only in business, but government and even everyday folks.  

Suspicious that she's a ChiCom because of her ethnicity?  No.  

 

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How anybody can defend these folks anymore, no matter which side of the aisle, is beyond me. 

Paid political influence. Sure, everything could just be pure coincidence. Something about quacking ducks comes to mind.

I mean maybe the kinda hot, extremely rich, Chinese lady just loved ol’ Mitch for his personality. Or his simple Appalachian ways……….

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So let me make sure I understand your standard.Trump-branded merchandise was manufactured in China. Ivanka's business relied heavily on Chinese factories. Trump repeatedly praised Xi Jinping...

So let me make sure I understand your standard.

Trump-branded merchandise was manufactured in China. Ivanka's business relied heavily on Chinese factories. Trump repeatedly praised Xi Jinping when it served his interests.

Are the Trumps 'ChiComs' too?

Or is that label reserved for Americans of Chinese ancestry/ethnicity whose families actually fled the Communist regime?

TeamGreen wrote:
The actual issue at hand…aside from your “spin”…aside from your attempts at misdirection…Elaine Chao, senior government official in Raegan-Bush-Trump admins…with a family owned mega-shipping company…a company...

The actual issue at hand…aside from your “spin”…aside from your attempts at misdirection…

Elaine Chao, senior government official in Raegan-Bush-Trump admins…with a family owned mega-shipping company…a company that makes its money due to very accommodating Chinese contracts…flies off to CHINA for some serious hi-level mtgs…in CHINA…not Taiwan…

While Mitch is in the hospital with some very serious health issues. Huh. 

It’s almost as if you don’t know who we’re talking about…here…

Are you aware of who she is? Her various cabinet and hi-level posts…over the last…what…?

FORTY YEARS?

APLMAN99 wrote:
You know what really stands out here?We are constantly lectured by people that American citizens should just be 'American' instead of 'African-American', 'Asian-American', or any other...

You know what really stands out here?

We are constantly lectured by people that American citizens should just be 'American' instead of 'African-American', 'Asian-American', or any other label.

Yet the moment someone's last name is Chao, they suddenly become 'the Chinese Chaos'.

Not 'the American family'.  Not 'the New York shipping company',  Not 'the family that fled Communist China'.  Just 'the Chinese Chaos'.

That's the same mentality that led people to scream "Go back to China" at Asian-Americans during COVID, people who were just as American as you or me. My own daughter-in-law, whose family fled the Communists also, was told in a Costco to "go home and take your China virus with you" because of that type of prejudice.  

You're doing the same thing here. You're treating ethnicity as evidence of divided loyalty.  If Elaine Chao violated ethics rules, present the evidence. If she committed a crime, I'm all for her being prosecuted.  I'm not defending her as a businessperson or saying she is an ethical saint, but just calling out the bullshit of inferring she is an agent of the CCP because of her ethnicity.  

If your strongest argument is that she's ethnically Chinese, her family has Chinese roots, and therefore she must be a 'ChiCom', that's not evidence. That's prejudice.

The places you go to try to change the actual situation are typical of “the victim class”. Dude, that’s just embarrassing. Portland come Seattle in the house. 🤣

Again, HERE IS situation from where this ALL originated before you went all MSNOW with it…

She went to China…met with…well…here…

“Just days after Sen. Mitch McConnell was rushed to a Washington hospital, his wife, former Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao, was thousands of miles away in Beijing for a high-level meeting with China’s vice president.”

Who’d she meet with? Oh, shit! China’s VP?

So, hey, guess what? I’ll ask it again…she’s in all the right rolls at all the right times. She’s got extremely profitable deals…IN TRANSPORTATION…from Powerful Chinese Power Brokers…and, yet…you can’t see the reasoning behind the original question? 

Go figure. 

Oh, and, good luck with your futile attempts at victimization. 

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Term limits, and cleaning up inside trading is what Congress needs. Pelosi and McConnell are just two examples. 

His last act was to destroy CBD industry. 

What it needs is 1 million Real fkn Americans and a big line of wood chippers... there, fixed it for ya.. #fktheepsteinclass

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TeamGreen wrote:
The actual issue at hand…aside from your “spin”…aside from your attempts at misdirection…Elaine Chao, senior government official in Raegan-Bush-Trump admins…with a family owned mega-shipping company…a company...

The actual issue at hand…aside from your “spin”…aside from your attempts at misdirection…

Elaine Chao, senior government official in Raegan-Bush-Trump admins…with a family owned mega-shipping company…a company that makes its money due to very accommodating Chinese contracts…flies off to CHINA for some serious hi-level mtgs…in CHINA…not Taiwan…

While Mitch is in the hospital with some very serious health issues. Huh. 

It’s almost as if you don’t know who we’re talking about…here…

Are you aware of who she is? Her various cabinet and hi-level posts…over the last…what…?

FORTY YEARS?

APLMAN99 wrote:
You know what really stands out here?We are constantly lectured by people that American citizens should just be 'American' instead of 'African-American', 'Asian-American', or any other...

You know what really stands out here?

We are constantly lectured by people that American citizens should just be 'American' instead of 'African-American', 'Asian-American', or any other label.

Yet the moment someone's last name is Chao, they suddenly become 'the Chinese Chaos'.

Not 'the American family'.  Not 'the New York shipping company',  Not 'the family that fled Communist China'.  Just 'the Chinese Chaos'.

That's the same mentality that led people to scream "Go back to China" at Asian-Americans during COVID, people who were just as American as you or me. My own daughter-in-law, whose family fled the Communists also, was told in a Costco to "go home and take your China virus with you" because of that type of prejudice.  

You're doing the same thing here. You're treating ethnicity as evidence of divided loyalty.  If Elaine Chao violated ethics rules, present the evidence. If she committed a crime, I'm all for her being prosecuted.  I'm not defending her as a businessperson or saying she is an ethical saint, but just calling out the bullshit of inferring she is an agent of the CCP because of her ethnicity.  

If your strongest argument is that she's ethnically Chinese, her family has Chinese roots, and therefore she must be a 'ChiCom', that's not evidence. That's prejudice.

TeamGreen wrote:
The places you go to try to change the actual situation are typical of “the victim class”. Dude, that’s just embarrassing. Portland come Seattle in the...

The places you go to try to change the actual situation are typical of “the victim class”. Dude, that’s just embarrassing. Portland come Seattle in the house. 🤣

Again, HERE IS situation from where this ALL originated before you went all MSNOW with it…

She went to China…met with…well…here…

“Just days after Sen. Mitch McConnell was rushed to a Washington hospital, his wife, former Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao, was thousands of miles away in Beijing for a high-level meeting with China’s vice president.”

Who’d she meet with? Oh, shit! China’s VP?

So, hey, guess what? I’ll ask it again…she’s in all the right rolls at all the right times. She’s got extremely profitable deals…IN TRANSPORTATION…from Powerful Chinese Power Brokers…and, yet…you can’t see the reasoning behind the original question? 

Go figure. 

Oh, and, good luck with your futile attempts at victimization. 

Jesus, Manny...just own it.

You didn't ask whether Elaine Chao had a potential ethics conflict.  You asked,  ‘Is Mitch's wife a ChiCom or what?’

Those are not remotely the same thing.

Instead of saying, ‘Yeah, that was a dumb way to put it’, you've spent the last half dozen posts desperately trying to retrofit an ethics argument onto an ethnic slur.  That's why you keep changing the subject from "ChiCom" to shipping contracts to cabinet positions to meetings in Beijing.

You don't have the intellectual honesty to admit your original comment was stupid.

You saw a woman of Chinese ancestry and immediately questioned her loyalty. Everything since then has just been an attempt to justify that knee-jerk reaction after the fact.

The hardest words in the English language for some people are "Yeah, I worded that badly”.

Instead of simply admitting that asking whether an American whose family fled the Communists is a "ChiCom" was a stupid comment, you've spent an entire thread trying to invent a different argument than the one you actually made.  That's not conviction. That's ego.

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TeamGreen wrote:
Oh, you mean that company founded and owned by the Chao family?The Chinese Chaos? As in immigrated from CHINA via TAIWAN?That company?Where are their major shipping...

Oh, you mean that company founded and owned by the Chao family?

The Chinese Chaos? As in immigrated from CHINA via TAIWAN?

That company?

Where are their major shipping contracts from…who are they with?

 

APLMAN99 wrote:
So let me make sure I understand your standard.Trump-branded merchandise was manufactured in China. Ivanka's business relied heavily on Chinese factories. Trump repeatedly praised Xi Jinping...

So let me make sure I understand your standard.

Trump-branded merchandise was manufactured in China. Ivanka's business relied heavily on Chinese factories. Trump repeatedly praised Xi Jinping when it served his interests.

Are the Trumps 'ChiComs' too?

Or is that label reserved for Americans of Chinese ancestry/ethnicity whose families actually fled the Communist regime?

TeamGreen wrote:
The actual issue at hand…aside from your “spin”…aside from your attempts at misdirection…Elaine Chao, senior government official in Raegan-Bush-Trump admins…with a family owned mega-shipping company…a company...

The actual issue at hand…aside from your “spin”…aside from your attempts at misdirection…

Elaine Chao, senior government official in Raegan-Bush-Trump admins…with a family owned mega-shipping company…a company that makes its money due to very accommodating Chinese contracts…flies off to CHINA for some serious hi-level mtgs…in CHINA…not Taiwan…

While Mitch is in the hospital with some very serious health issues. Huh. 

It’s almost as if you don’t know who we’re talking about…here…

Are you aware of who she is? Her various cabinet and hi-level posts…over the last…what…?

FORTY YEARS?

My understanding is most of her ships and financing come from China, the very same company that builds the Chinese military ships.

TM

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APLMAN99 wrote:
So let me make sure I understand your standard.Trump-branded merchandise was manufactured in China. Ivanka's business relied heavily on Chinese factories. Trump repeatedly praised Xi Jinping...

So let me make sure I understand your standard.

Trump-branded merchandise was manufactured in China. Ivanka's business relied heavily on Chinese factories. Trump repeatedly praised Xi Jinping when it served his interests.

Are the Trumps 'ChiComs' too?

Or is that label reserved for Americans of Chinese ancestry/ethnicity whose families actually fled the Communist regime?

TeamGreen wrote:
The actual issue at hand…aside from your “spin”…aside from your attempts at misdirection…Elaine Chao, senior government official in Raegan-Bush-Trump admins…with a family owned mega-shipping company…a company...

The actual issue at hand…aside from your “spin”…aside from your attempts at misdirection…

Elaine Chao, senior government official in Raegan-Bush-Trump admins…with a family owned mega-shipping company…a company that makes its money due to very accommodating Chinese contracts…flies off to CHINA for some serious hi-level mtgs…in CHINA…not Taiwan…

While Mitch is in the hospital with some very serious health issues. Huh. 

It’s almost as if you don’t know who we’re talking about…here…

Are you aware of who she is? Her various cabinet and hi-level posts…over the last…what…?

FORTY YEARS?

ToolMaker wrote:

My understanding is most of her ships and financing come from China, the very same company that builds the Chinese military ships.

TM

Oh, sure, you had to go there. Didn’t you?!

Dats Raciss!!!

Just own it!

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Damn the evidence, full speed ahead!!! 😂🤦

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TeamGreen wrote:
The actual issue at hand…aside from your “spin”…aside from your attempts at misdirection…Elaine Chao, senior government official in Raegan-Bush-Trump admins…with a family owned mega-shipping company…a company...

The actual issue at hand…aside from your “spin”…aside from your attempts at misdirection…

Elaine Chao, senior government official in Raegan-Bush-Trump admins…with a family owned mega-shipping company…a company that makes its money due to very accommodating Chinese contracts…flies off to CHINA for some serious hi-level mtgs…in CHINA…not Taiwan…

While Mitch is in the hospital with some very serious health issues. Huh. 

It’s almost as if you don’t know who we’re talking about…here…

Are you aware of who she is? Her various cabinet and hi-level posts…over the last…what…?

FORTY YEARS?

APLMAN99 wrote:
You know what really stands out here?We are constantly lectured by people that American citizens should just be 'American' instead of 'African-American', 'Asian-American', or any other...

You know what really stands out here?

We are constantly lectured by people that American citizens should just be 'American' instead of 'African-American', 'Asian-American', or any other label.

Yet the moment someone's last name is Chao, they suddenly become 'the Chinese Chaos'.

Not 'the American family'.  Not 'the New York shipping company',  Not 'the family that fled Communist China'.  Just 'the Chinese Chaos'.

That's the same mentality that led people to scream "Go back to China" at Asian-Americans during COVID, people who were just as American as you or me. My own daughter-in-law, whose family fled the Communists also, was told in a Costco to "go home and take your China virus with you" because of that type of prejudice.  

You're doing the same thing here. You're treating ethnicity as evidence of divided loyalty.  If Elaine Chao violated ethics rules, present the evidence. If she committed a crime, I'm all for her being prosecuted.  I'm not defending her as a businessperson or saying she is an ethical saint, but just calling out the bullshit of inferring she is an agent of the CCP because of her ethnicity.  

If your strongest argument is that she's ethnically Chinese, her family has Chinese roots, and therefore she must be a 'ChiCom', that's not evidence. That's prejudice.

TeamGreen wrote:
The places you go to try to change the actual situation are typical of “the victim class”. Dude, that’s just embarrassing. Portland come Seattle in the...

The places you go to try to change the actual situation are typical of “the victim class”. Dude, that’s just embarrassing. Portland come Seattle in the house. 🤣

Again, HERE IS situation from where this ALL originated before you went all MSNOW with it…

She went to China…met with…well…here…

“Just days after Sen. Mitch McConnell was rushed to a Washington hospital, his wife, former Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao, was thousands of miles away in Beijing for a high-level meeting with China’s vice president.”

Who’d she meet with? Oh, shit! China’s VP?

So, hey, guess what? I’ll ask it again…she’s in all the right rolls at all the right times. She’s got extremely profitable deals…IN TRANSPORTATION…from Powerful Chinese Power Brokers…and, yet…you can’t see the reasoning behind the original question? 

Go figure. 

Oh, and, good luck with your futile attempts at victimization. 

Yeah, he's a real piece of work. 

Anyone claiming that anything you've said about her has any kind of racial, or prejudicial overtones...

Well, it says more about him than anything else. 

Bunch of long winded posts trying to justify what's obviously suspicious behavior to say the very least. 

And finally culminating by insinuating...

Well you know.

Typical behavior these days.

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Circumstantial evidence is still evidence. 

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