Quad racer using spectator for traction.

I'm really torn on this. To blatantly blast through people is kind of crazy, on the other hand they are standing in the middle of the race track when the riders have limited visibility and are not surprisingly trying to get from A to B as fast as possible.. 

I hope the girl is OK, but this will only be another reason for GNCC to limit spectator access. 

There is also a video of the quads blasting some people at the start of the race, that was purely accident though. He lost control over a small road drop and shot off to the side. 

I feel like something will come of this. It's a disaster waiting to happen with the people scattered around on the course like that. That girl looked to hit her head pretty badly. I can see the racer's perspective in some way, but pinning the throttle with people under the quad is crazy work. I can't side with him on that. Overall, between that and the one where the quad plowed into people (which was more of a freak accident thing,) that's a bad look. Especially when the promoters are always talking about social media posts directly affecting insurance for the events. If that's true, then I would imagine something happens for that event, in the future, because that video has been circulating quite a bit. I know that area is the allure of the event but my guess is there will be some changes.

Don't be speed bumps children 

People will be drunk idiots and try to blame the guys racing while you stand in the middle of THE FUCKING RACE TRACK 

This is "cultural" and the culture was created by The Blackwater 100, an Enduro event originally planned and promoted by Dave Coombs Sr.  

Route 70 river crossing "mud fleas"  

Thise were good times and I think folks are trying to recreate it, albeit unsuccessfully. 

Good times,  pictured below. 

I’ve heard he’s getting charges pressed on him. Carrie DQ’d him from the event as well. Mind you this guy is John Glauda, a pro XC1 guy. I personally think it’s a bunch of bullshit, especially if he gets charges pressed on him, once that can of warms is open I could see pros not going there next year because this literally happens every single year. 

Ways to fuck your race series 101

Their just trying to bury GNCC

And we wonder why we're struggling to get event insurance. 

What an absolute disaster of a week for MX Sports between this, Archview Regional, and the Flo Sports deal.

Clutching and pinning it on top of them was a bit much...

Want to side with the racer but that’s just crazy you pin it on top of someone. Sorry that’s not ok, no matter how much it’s going to affect your race result. Pretty sure with video evidence the promoter would take into consideration if you stopped and help get the spectator out from under your quad. Just another reason to get rid of quad racing…

Whether the person is in your way or not you cant just run people over. Sickening. Definitely deserved the DQ. Watched some helmet cam from one of the dirtbike guys and in that section people were just all over the fucking place in the way. I get wanting to help someone if given the chance but some situational awareness goes a long way. 

Hit them and knocked them down, rode over them after he knocked them down, and never would have stopped if he didn't get stuck. There's 100% chance that the rider and promoter and everyone else is getting sued on this one. 

No idea on that one, but either way the argument will be that the promoter didn't take adequate steps to prevent the person from being on the race course so it's still on the promoter. 

"This is too easy"- Rich Taylors lawyer.

I am like all of you, I'm 100% against suing tracks, in fact I have never sued anyone in my life.  But at some point, promoters need to be held accountable for gross negligence.  They practically invite spectators onto the track, it has been their culture for many many years. When you combine that with the conditions that some of these tracks have, along with pro racers who are racing for a living to support their families, the outcome is almost guaranteed.

How many videos have we seen like that this year? 

I can see both sides of it. The purposefulness of what he did was bullshit. But at the same time it's not much different than standing on the side of the road during a rally, Baja 1000, or the Isle of man. If you want to be that close to the action there's a chance you get smoked and killed.

I had a rider 20 plus years ago use me as traction in first turn pile up. It was avoidable cause my torso stopped his rear wheel and I had time to think “please don’t pin it”. Then he pins it. I hope the 6th place finish was worth it 😂 

Probably should say stay at least 50ft from the track. While you know people don't use a bit of logic, it should still say that. It wasn't all that many years ago Rudy got taken out at Barona when someone blew a turn and Rudy was on the outside of the turn. The physical damage to him ruined his life. He was a staple in So Cal before that.

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This isn't the first time this mudfest crap has gone on at snowshoe.

In my view this hurts them more than it helps. It might as well say nothing about the issue. Stay off the track, but we don't mark the track because someone might decide to make the track go someplace new that you didn't know was going to become the track. Stay off the track unless you think it's safe to cross, then you can go for it just don't turn your back. But please stay off the track we don't mark. 

Ribbons or something? I think they'd have a hard time arguing that they actually care if people are on the track. I really don't know how the law would look at it, does some ribbon and fine print when you buy your ticket carry more weight than a culture where being on the track is the accepted norm? 

Kind of a bummer but it's like so many other things, 99% of the people use their brain and it works, but the rules end up getting set for the 1%. In this case the fan that got ran over and the rider are in the 1% I think. 

I was going to say when the "rules" were posted above, that is a bit of a gray area. And this is a great example of what I had in mind. I'm not taking sides but it seems the promoters are maybe playing both sides of the fence a bit. Yes there are rules posted but at this particular event, they are also somewhat benefitting from marketing the Mud Fleas and Howards Hole thing, where it's almost promoted to be like old Blackwater. And I'm not pointing fingers, it's unfortunate that it happened, but plenty of blame to go around.

Are you being serious?   This has been going on for many years. Do you see course workers in that video trying to clear the spectators? Have you ever seen course workers trying to clear the track at any of the hundreds of videos online?   how about you tell me what they are doing to prevent this??  And no, putting up a banner and reinforcing no spectators on the track isn't nearly enough. oh yea, they said "never turn your back to oncoming racers".....  well if you wasn't on the track that shouldn't be an issue...

Ill just leave this right here....