Trump says "Iran agreed to everything"

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As if liberals don’t have a playbook….😆😆😆😆😆🤦‍♂️

JerryVan wrote:

True, but at least it’s a bit more nuanced than the same old whataboutisms

Oh man! Not it’s not…..😆

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JerryVan wrote:
I was wondering how long it would take for this thread to break down into “Yeah but what about the LGBBQTI2FMA loving DUMBOCRATS HARHARHAR YOU TRIGGERED...

I was wondering how long it would take for this thread to break down into “Yeah but what about the LGBBQTI2FMA loving DUMBOCRATS HARHARHAR YOU TRIGGERED LIBTARD”. I’m surprised it took this long. Less so about who resorted to it…

M8 wrote:

If you’re against Trumps corruption, you’re instantly labelled Trans.

How convenient.

Oh no! You’re labeled trans when support their twisted agenda or actually are a tranny.💯

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JerryVan wrote:
I was wondering how long it would take for this thread to break down into “Yeah but what about the LGBBQTI2FMA loving DUMBOCRATS HARHARHAR YOU TRIGGERED...

I was wondering how long it would take for this thread to break down into “Yeah but what about the LGBBQTI2FMA loving DUMBOCRATS HARHARHAR YOU TRIGGERED LIBTARD”. I’m surprised it took this long. Less so about who resorted to it…

M8 wrote:

If you’re against Trumps corruption, you’re instantly labelled Trans.

How convenient.

Oh no! You’re labeled trans when support their twisted agenda or actually are a tranny.💯

Well,  people who don’t support Trump are labeled “libs”, and by default, “trans”. The idea that one can be conservative AND against Trump escapes some folks’ comprehension. 

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M8 wrote:

If you’re against Trumps corruption, you’re instantly labelled Trans.

How convenient.

Oh no! You’re labeled trans when support their twisted agenda or actually are a tranny.💯

LoudLove wrote:
Well,  people who don’t support Trump are labeled “libs”, and by default, “trans”. The idea that one can be conservative AND against Trump escapes some folks’...

Well,  people who don’t support Trump are labeled “libs”, and by default, “trans”. The idea that one can be conservative AND against Trump escapes some folks’ comprehension. 

 That is one of the things that has fascinated me about the hard core supporters.   They think  You are either a Trump supporter 100%, or a  Democrat.  

I think with Trump, that's how he sees people, You either support him totally or he wants nothing to do with you. 

It's very interesting to me.   I think that is a big part  of why his supporters are so loyal. If they truly believe there is no middle ground. They can't  be against anything or they become the evil they are fighting against .  

   

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Oh no! You’re labeled trans when support their twisted agenda or actually are a tranny.💯

LoudLove wrote:
Well,  people who don’t support Trump are labeled “libs”, and by default, “trans”. The idea that one can be conservative AND against Trump escapes some folks’...

Well,  people who don’t support Trump are labeled “libs”, and by default, “trans”. The idea that one can be conservative AND against Trump escapes some folks’ comprehension. 

 That is one of the things that has fascinated me about the hard core supporters.   They think  You are either a Trump supporter 100%, or...

 That is one of the things that has fascinated me about the hard core supporters.   They think  You are either a Trump supporter 100%, or a  Democrat.  

I think with Trump, that's how he sees people, You either support him totally or he wants nothing to do with you. 

It's very interesting to me.   I think that is a big part  of why his supporters are so loyal. If they truly believe there is no middle ground. They can't  be against anything or they become the evil they are fighting against .  

   

Notice when you point out facts and logic all the Trumpets just thumbs down. If they can’t call you a libtard they have nothing. 

I just don’t understand the hive mind mentality. I use to have hope we could come together as Americans. That hope is now lost, sadly. 

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6/22/2026 4:18pm

But posts which talk smack about maga and then immediately talk about coming together as Americans will get a down vote nine times out of ten. Its not so different from objecting to something from a mid-level friend, there's a tact required. A proper homie you can call an asshole or dipshit or whatever,  butt less than that and thing change quite a bit.

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byke wrote:
But posts which talk smack about maga and then immediately talk about coming together as Americans will get a down vote nine times out of ten...

But posts which talk smack about maga and then immediately talk about coming together as Americans will get a down vote nine times out of ten. Its not so different from objecting to something from a mid-level friend, there's a tact required. A proper homie you can call an asshole or dipshit or whatever,  butt less than that and thing change quite a bit.

Fair enough. 

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6/22/2026 4:51pm

Oh man! Not it’s not…..😆

Let’s agree to disagree and get back to the main topic. What’s your take on the MOU?

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LoudLove wrote:
Well,  people who don’t support Trump are labeled “libs”, and by default, “trans”. The idea that one can be conservative AND against Trump escapes some folks’...

Well,  people who don’t support Trump are labeled “libs”, and by default, “trans”. The idea that one can be conservative AND against Trump escapes some folks’ comprehension. 

 That is one of the things that has fascinated me about the hard core supporters.   They think  You are either a Trump supporter 100%, or...

 That is one of the things that has fascinated me about the hard core supporters.   They think  You are either a Trump supporter 100%, or a  Democrat.  

I think with Trump, that's how he sees people, You either support him totally or he wants nothing to do with you. 

It's very interesting to me.   I think that is a big part  of why his supporters are so loyal. If they truly believe there is no middle ground. They can't  be against anything or they become the evil they are fighting against .  

   

joshd wrote:
Notice when you point out facts and logic all the Trumpets just thumbs down. If they can’t call you a libtard they have nothing. I just don’t...

Notice when you point out facts and logic all the Trumpets just thumbs down. If they can’t call you a libtard they have nothing. 

I just don’t understand the hive mind mentality. I use to have hope we could come together as Americans. That hope is now lost, sadly. 

It is annoying , but often predictable that is so often the reply.  

 I still have hope.  Every so often I'll see a glimmer of hope here and there.  

 

Other than my older sister, I never talk politics outside of this site.  I had hoped the bond of Moto could help bridge the divide of politics a little bit better than it has. I had hoped people would come into any conversation knowing we shared the bond of moto and that it could help make things not go the way they always do in the regular world. In the real world You have no idea who  somebody is before You know them, but if You talk to somebody who rides moto You know that You already have a lot in common.   When I first started to race, I was blown away by all the different types of people I became friends with through moto.   Dr.'s, Roofers, A commercial pilot, a Marine special forces sniper, Investment bankers , a member of the band Godsmack, framers, landscapers ,  very rich and not so rich .  People who would never have anything to do with each other were brought together by the love of one thing. And that's one of the most amazing things about motocross. 

 

I refuse to totally give up hope of people coming together on the bigger things. And being less divisive, get back to being more respectful of others . I know there will always be opposing viewpoints. But I do hope that we can get back to a point where the majority of people can agree on what the facts are even when they do not like them.  This period of "alternative facts" is not a good time for the country.  

 

 I have given up caring too much about getting a decent reply on here though.  That I have given up hope on.

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6/22/2026 4:53pm

Oh no! You’re labeled trans when support their twisted agenda or actually are a tranny.💯

LoudLove wrote:
Well,  people who don’t support Trump are labeled “libs”, and by default, “trans”. The idea that one can be conservative AND against Trump escapes some folks’...

Well,  people who don’t support Trump are labeled “libs”, and by default, “trans”. The idea that one can be conservative AND against Trump escapes some folks’ comprehension. 

 That is one of the things that has fascinated me about the hard core supporters.   They think  You are either a Trump supporter 100%, or...

 That is one of the things that has fascinated me about the hard core supporters.   They think  You are either a Trump supporter 100%, or a  Democrat.  

I think with Trump, that's how he sees people, You either support him totally or he wants nothing to do with you. 

It's very interesting to me.   I think that is a big part  of why his supporters are so loyal. If they truly believe there is no middle ground. They can't  be against anything or they become the evil they are fighting against .  

   

Isn't it fascinating that people hate Trump soo much they'd rather see criminal illegals on the street than admit it's good for the country to deport them? Or they will side with violent gang members because they hate Trump soo much. It would be great if they actually wanted a better America than just hate Trump. Sure would be nice to come together on some real issues. Sadly the hate dominates their world. Look at how they fought cleaning up Washington DC. They can't even acknowledge that so many black people are getting shot every weekend in Chicago because that would mean getting help from Trump, but "Black Lives Matter" unless they are shot by other black people I guess. So they will let black people get shot and die rather than let Trump help. Mind boggling isn't it? You don't have to support Trump 100% or even 70% to just see that some people would rather support criminals because of the hate in their heart.

TM

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LoudLove wrote:
Well,  people who don’t support Trump are labeled “libs”, and by default, “trans”. The idea that one can be conservative AND against Trump escapes some folks’...

Well,  people who don’t support Trump are labeled “libs”, and by default, “trans”. The idea that one can be conservative AND against Trump escapes some folks’ comprehension. 

 That is one of the things that has fascinated me about the hard core supporters.   They think  You are either a Trump supporter 100%, or...

 That is one of the things that has fascinated me about the hard core supporters.   They think  You are either a Trump supporter 100%, or a  Democrat.  

I think with Trump, that's how he sees people, You either support him totally or he wants nothing to do with you. 

It's very interesting to me.   I think that is a big part  of why his supporters are so loyal. If they truly believe there is no middle ground. They can't  be against anything or they become the evil they are fighting against .  

   

joshd wrote:
Notice when you point out facts and logic all the Trumpets just thumbs down. If they can’t call you a libtard they have nothing. I just don’t...

Notice when you point out facts and logic all the Trumpets just thumbs down. If they can’t call you a libtard they have nothing. 

I just don’t understand the hive mind mentality. I use to have hope we could come together as Americans. That hope is now lost, sadly. 

I’ve always said, if you want to argue, get into politics. 
The thing I’ve noticed is a lot of guys getting the thumbs down on both sides are actually decent AF in other parts of the forum and, that’s were decency is usually reciprocated. In non political threads. 

 

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6/22/2026 5:21pm

Oh man! Not it’s not…..😆

JerryVan wrote:

Let’s agree to disagree and get back to the main topic. What’s your take on the MOU?

Trump surrendered.

Global oil reserves around the world were reaching a crunch point, that would have seen sky rocketing oil prices, and crashed the stock market.

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LoudLove wrote:
Well,  people who don’t support Trump are labeled “libs”, and by default, “trans”. The idea that one can be conservative AND against Trump escapes some folks’...

Well,  people who don’t support Trump are labeled “libs”, and by default, “trans”. The idea that one can be conservative AND against Trump escapes some folks’ comprehension. 

 That is one of the things that has fascinated me about the hard core supporters.   They think  You are either a Trump supporter 100%, or...

 That is one of the things that has fascinated me about the hard core supporters.   They think  You are either a Trump supporter 100%, or a  Democrat.  

I think with Trump, that's how he sees people, You either support him totally or he wants nothing to do with you. 

It's very interesting to me.   I think that is a big part  of why his supporters are so loyal. If they truly believe there is no middle ground. They can't  be against anything or they become the evil they are fighting against .  

   

ToolMaker wrote:
Isn't it fascinating that people hate Trump soo much they'd rather see criminal illegals on the street than admit it's good for the country to deport...

Isn't it fascinating that people hate Trump soo much they'd rather see criminal illegals on the street than admit it's good for the country to deport them? Or they will side with violent gang members because they hate Trump soo much. It would be great if they actually wanted a better America than just hate Trump. Sure would be nice to come together on some real issues. Sadly the hate dominates their world. Look at how they fought cleaning up Washington DC. They can't even acknowledge that so many black people are getting shot every weekend in Chicago because that would mean getting help from Trump, but "Black Lives Matter" unless they are shot by other black people I guess. So they will let black people get shot and die rather than let Trump help. Mind boggling isn't it? You don't have to support Trump 100% or even 70% to just see that some people would rather support criminals because of the hate in their heart.

TM

I don’t hate Trump. I actually think he can be funny af. I hate his Jewish handlers. 

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LoudLove wrote:
Well,  people who don’t support Trump are labeled “libs”, and by default, “trans”. The idea that one can be conservative AND against Trump escapes some folks’...

Well,  people who don’t support Trump are labeled “libs”, and by default, “trans”. The idea that one can be conservative AND against Trump escapes some folks’ comprehension. 

 That is one of the things that has fascinated me about the hard core supporters.   They think  You are either a Trump supporter 100%, or...

 That is one of the things that has fascinated me about the hard core supporters.   They think  You are either a Trump supporter 100%, or a  Democrat.  

I think with Trump, that's how he sees people, You either support him totally or he wants nothing to do with you. 

It's very interesting to me.   I think that is a big part  of why his supporters are so loyal. If they truly believe there is no middle ground. They can't  be against anything or they become the evil they are fighting against .  

   

ToolMaker wrote:
Isn't it fascinating that people hate Trump soo much they'd rather see criminal illegals on the street than admit it's good for the country to deport...

Isn't it fascinating that people hate Trump soo much they'd rather see criminal illegals on the street than admit it's good for the country to deport them? Or they will side with violent gang members because they hate Trump soo much. It would be great if they actually wanted a better America than just hate Trump. Sure would be nice to come together on some real issues. Sadly the hate dominates their world. Look at how they fought cleaning up Washington DC. They can't even acknowledge that so many black people are getting shot every weekend in Chicago because that would mean getting help from Trump, but "Black Lives Matter" unless they are shot by other black people I guess. So they will let black people get shot and die rather than let Trump help. Mind boggling isn't it? You don't have to support Trump 100% or even 70% to just see that some people would rather support criminals because of the hate in their heart.

TM

Not even close on why people had a problem with ICE. and the way they were enforcing immigration.  But You knew that. Have You ever thought that perhaps the reasons that   Democrat  leaders gave are the real reasons  they were so upset with Immigration enforcement ?  

 

Have You ever asked Yourself , Why would people have such a blind hate for somebody they don't know? That makes no sense, its crazy talk and that's how they get You to believe it. They convince you the other side is irrational. And twist the way  everything's reported to frame the other side as crazy as possible while framing their side as the good, rational side.  They discredit other news and tell You you can only trust them.  Trump started it, but it's being done by both major parties now to a degree.    

  I know I don't hate him, I just dislike the way he's doing the things I've expressed my opinions on.   I would totally go to a comedy show if he quit and became a comedian, he can be really funny sometimes. He's an excellent marketer. 

 

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Has everyone forgotten about the Epstein files yet? I'm pretty sure that's why we went into this none-war war. 

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matt.3150 wrote:
I haven’t gone on here saying anything about what I have or what I have done to try and one up anyone.  And I quote TMIn the...

I haven’t gone on here saying anything about what I have or what I have done to try and one up anyone. 
 


And I quote TM

In the meantime, I’ll keep my place “down at the beach”, since you guys haven’t fully wrecked The OC, yet…And I’ll take all my retirement, corporate, real state and other income with me.

That’s a pissing contest! 

🤦
 

If you're going to claim to quote me, you probably should use words that I wrote and not someone else.

TM

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 That is one of the things that has fascinated me about the hard core supporters.   They think  You are either a Trump supporter 100%, or...

 That is one of the things that has fascinated me about the hard core supporters.   They think  You are either a Trump supporter 100%, or a  Democrat.  

I think with Trump, that's how he sees people, You either support him totally or he wants nothing to do with you. 

It's very interesting to me.   I think that is a big part  of why his supporters are so loyal. If they truly believe there is no middle ground. They can't  be against anything or they become the evil they are fighting against .  

   

ToolMaker wrote:
Isn't it fascinating that people hate Trump soo much they'd rather see criminal illegals on the street than admit it's good for the country to deport...

Isn't it fascinating that people hate Trump soo much they'd rather see criminal illegals on the street than admit it's good for the country to deport them? Or they will side with violent gang members because they hate Trump soo much. It would be great if they actually wanted a better America than just hate Trump. Sure would be nice to come together on some real issues. Sadly the hate dominates their world. Look at how they fought cleaning up Washington DC. They can't even acknowledge that so many black people are getting shot every weekend in Chicago because that would mean getting help from Trump, but "Black Lives Matter" unless they are shot by other black people I guess. So they will let black people get shot and die rather than let Trump help. Mind boggling isn't it? You don't have to support Trump 100% or even 70% to just see that some people would rather support criminals because of the hate in their heart.

TM

Not even close on why people had a problem with ICE. and the way they were enforcing immigration.  But You knew that. Have You ever thought...

Not even close on why people had a problem with ICE. and the way they were enforcing immigration.  But You knew that. Have You ever thought that perhaps the reasons that   Democrat  leaders gave are the real reasons  they were so upset with Immigration enforcement ?  

 

Have You ever asked Yourself , Why would people have such a blind hate for somebody they don't know? That makes no sense, its crazy talk and that's how they get You to believe it. They convince you the other side is irrational. And twist the way  everything's reported to frame the other side as crazy as possible while framing their side as the good, rational side.  They discredit other news and tell You you can only trust them.  Trump started it, but it's being done by both major parties now to a degree.    

  I know I don't hate him, I just dislike the way he's doing the things I've expressed my opinions on.   I would totally go to a comedy show if he quit and became a comedian, he can be really funny sometimes. He's an excellent marketer. 

 

"Have You ever asked Yourself , Why would people have such a blind hate for somebody they don't know? That makes no sense, its crazy talk and that's how they get You to believe it."

Since I'm pretty sure you don't know President Trump, that's a great question.

TM

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Timo wrote:

Has everyone forgotten about the Epstein files yet? I'm pretty sure that's why we went into this none-war war. 

The world is full of Epstein's,

Getting rid of them is up to all of us.

Instead of putting our heads in the sand

See something, Hear something Do something is up to you. 

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ToolMaker wrote:
Isn't it fascinating that people hate Trump soo much they'd rather see criminal illegals on the street than admit it's good for the country to deport...

Isn't it fascinating that people hate Trump soo much they'd rather see criminal illegals on the street than admit it's good for the country to deport them? Or they will side with violent gang members because they hate Trump soo much. It would be great if they actually wanted a better America than just hate Trump. Sure would be nice to come together on some real issues. Sadly the hate dominates their world. Look at how they fought cleaning up Washington DC. They can't even acknowledge that so many black people are getting shot every weekend in Chicago because that would mean getting help from Trump, but "Black Lives Matter" unless they are shot by other black people I guess. So they will let black people get shot and die rather than let Trump help. Mind boggling isn't it? You don't have to support Trump 100% or even 70% to just see that some people would rather support criminals because of the hate in their heart.

TM

Not even close on why people had a problem with ICE. and the way they were enforcing immigration.  But You knew that. Have You ever thought...

Not even close on why people had a problem with ICE. and the way they were enforcing immigration.  But You knew that. Have You ever thought that perhaps the reasons that   Democrat  leaders gave are the real reasons  they were so upset with Immigration enforcement ?  

 

Have You ever asked Yourself , Why would people have such a blind hate for somebody they don't know? That makes no sense, its crazy talk and that's how they get You to believe it. They convince you the other side is irrational. And twist the way  everything's reported to frame the other side as crazy as possible while framing their side as the good, rational side.  They discredit other news and tell You you can only trust them.  Trump started it, but it's being done by both major parties now to a degree.    

  I know I don't hate him, I just dislike the way he's doing the things I've expressed my opinions on.   I would totally go to a comedy show if he quit and became a comedian, he can be really funny sometimes. He's an excellent marketer. 

 

ToolMaker wrote:
"Have You ever asked Yourself , Why would people have such a blind hate for somebody they don't know? That makes no sense, its crazy talk...

"Have You ever asked Yourself , Why would people have such a blind hate for somebody they don't know? That makes no sense, its crazy talk and that's how they get You to believe it."

Since I'm pretty sure you don't know President Trump, that's a great question.

TM

Donald Trump is a bonafide sociopathic fucking lunatic.

You can take that to the bank.

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ToolMaker wrote:
Isn't it fascinating that people hate Trump soo much they'd rather see criminal illegals on the street than admit it's good for the country to deport...

Isn't it fascinating that people hate Trump soo much they'd rather see criminal illegals on the street than admit it's good for the country to deport them? Or they will side with violent gang members because they hate Trump soo much. It would be great if they actually wanted a better America than just hate Trump. Sure would be nice to come together on some real issues. Sadly the hate dominates their world. Look at how they fought cleaning up Washington DC. They can't even acknowledge that so many black people are getting shot every weekend in Chicago because that would mean getting help from Trump, but "Black Lives Matter" unless they are shot by other black people I guess. So they will let black people get shot and die rather than let Trump help. Mind boggling isn't it? You don't have to support Trump 100% or even 70% to just see that some people would rather support criminals because of the hate in their heart.

TM

Not even close on why people had a problem with ICE. and the way they were enforcing immigration.  But You knew that. Have You ever thought...

Not even close on why people had a problem with ICE. and the way they were enforcing immigration.  But You knew that. Have You ever thought that perhaps the reasons that   Democrat  leaders gave are the real reasons  they were so upset with Immigration enforcement ?  

 

Have You ever asked Yourself , Why would people have such a blind hate for somebody they don't know? That makes no sense, its crazy talk and that's how they get You to believe it. They convince you the other side is irrational. And twist the way  everything's reported to frame the other side as crazy as possible while framing their side as the good, rational side.  They discredit other news and tell You you can only trust them.  Trump started it, but it's being done by both major parties now to a degree.    

  I know I don't hate him, I just dislike the way he's doing the things I've expressed my opinions on.   I would totally go to a comedy show if he quit and became a comedian, he can be really funny sometimes. He's an excellent marketer. 

 

ToolMaker wrote:
"Have You ever asked Yourself , Why would people have such a blind hate for somebody they don't know? That makes no sense, its crazy talk...

"Have You ever asked Yourself , Why would people have such a blind hate for somebody they don't know? That makes no sense, its crazy talk and that's how they get You to believe it."

Since I'm pretty sure you don't know President Trump, that's a great question.

TM

Do you think the Epstein files were fake?

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LoudLove wrote:
Well,  people who don’t support Trump are labeled “libs”, and by default, “trans”. The idea that one can be conservative AND against Trump escapes some folks’...

Well,  people who don’t support Trump are labeled “libs”, and by default, “trans”. The idea that one can be conservative AND against Trump escapes some folks’ comprehension. 

 That is one of the things that has fascinated me about the hard core supporters.   They think  You are either a Trump supporter 100%, or...

 That is one of the things that has fascinated me about the hard core supporters.   They think  You are either a Trump supporter 100%, or a  Democrat.  

I think with Trump, that's how he sees people, You either support him totally or he wants nothing to do with you. 

It's very interesting to me.   I think that is a big part  of why his supporters are so loyal. If they truly believe there is no middle ground. They can't  be against anything or they become the evil they are fighting against .  

   

ToolMaker wrote:
Isn't it fascinating that people hate Trump soo much they'd rather see criminal illegals on the street than admit it's good for the country to deport...

Isn't it fascinating that people hate Trump soo much they'd rather see criminal illegals on the street than admit it's good for the country to deport them? Or they will side with violent gang members because they hate Trump soo much. It would be great if they actually wanted a better America than just hate Trump. Sure would be nice to come together on some real issues. Sadly the hate dominates their world. Look at how they fought cleaning up Washington DC. They can't even acknowledge that so many black people are getting shot every weekend in Chicago because that would mean getting help from Trump, but "Black Lives Matter" unless they are shot by other black people I guess. So they will let black people get shot and die rather than let Trump help. Mind boggling isn't it? You don't have to support Trump 100% or even 70% to just see that some people would rather support criminals because of the hate in their heart.

TM

Most of us don’t “hate” Trump or disagree with most overarching policies. It’s a lack of clearly defined goals and mismanaged implementations that create concerns.  Immigration reform and corralling Iran’s nuclear program are worthy endeavors tackled in ramshackle fashion. ICE became more of a problem for Trump than a solution, and Iran proved to be problematic.  It’s these ham-fisted approaches that leave us lifelong conservatives shaking our heads. 

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LoudLove wrote:
How ‘bout we have a truce?  No more attacking the opposition, just defending the position. Whining about liberal cities has zero to do with Iran. Just...

How ‘bout we have a truce?  No more attacking the opposition, just defending the position. Whining about liberal cities has zero to do with Iran. Just stick to the subject matter. 

Pssssst.

Maybe read what had been posted here-in and by whom?

There was a discussion and commentary on what Democrats have/don’t have a monopoly on. I reflected and posted from my own experience and I took into consideration who posts what in regards to that.

Meanwhile, and this is obvious, I’ve seen some of the most ridiculously false and outright ignorant insanity posted about “the subject matter”.

People drag all sorts of stupid shit into all these threads: from their hate for Israel to their support for the craziness befalling the democrat party in the guise of Leninism and let’s not forget the obvious serious cases of TDS.

But, I digress. Y’all can have at it. As you’ve probably noticed, we’ve got some 8-12 Rainbow Flag Waving Pronoun Obsessed Leftist in here that are too nutty to worry about; so, I’ve been leaving them to their own devices…not unlike my point made about letting them have at it in Big City America. 

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6/23/2026 8:55am
Not even close on why people had a problem with ICE. and the way they were enforcing immigration.  But You knew that. Have You ever thought...

Not even close on why people had a problem with ICE. and the way they were enforcing immigration.  But You knew that. Have You ever thought that perhaps the reasons that   Democrat  leaders gave are the real reasons  they were so upset with Immigration enforcement ?  

 

Have You ever asked Yourself , Why would people have such a blind hate for somebody they don't know? That makes no sense, its crazy talk and that's how they get You to believe it. They convince you the other side is irrational. And twist the way  everything's reported to frame the other side as crazy as possible while framing their side as the good, rational side.  They discredit other news and tell You you can only trust them.  Trump started it, but it's being done by both major parties now to a degree.    

  I know I don't hate him, I just dislike the way he's doing the things I've expressed my opinions on.   I would totally go to a comedy show if he quit and became a comedian, he can be really funny sometimes. He's an excellent marketer. 

 

ToolMaker wrote:
"Have You ever asked Yourself , Why would people have such a blind hate for somebody they don't know? That makes no sense, its crazy talk...

"Have You ever asked Yourself , Why would people have such a blind hate for somebody they don't know? That makes no sense, its crazy talk and that's how they get You to believe it."

Since I'm pretty sure you don't know President Trump, that's a great question.

TM

Donald Trump is a bonafide sociopathic fucking lunatic.

You can take that to the bank.

There you go Squatch,

Point proven, another person that does no know Trump, has a very strong opinion.

TM

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6/23/2026 8:57am
Not even close on why people had a problem with ICE. and the way they were enforcing immigration.  But You knew that. Have You ever thought...

Not even close on why people had a problem with ICE. and the way they were enforcing immigration.  But You knew that. Have You ever thought that perhaps the reasons that   Democrat  leaders gave are the real reasons  they were so upset with Immigration enforcement ?  

 

Have You ever asked Yourself , Why would people have such a blind hate for somebody they don't know? That makes no sense, its crazy talk and that's how they get You to believe it. They convince you the other side is irrational. And twist the way  everything's reported to frame the other side as crazy as possible while framing their side as the good, rational side.  They discredit other news and tell You you can only trust them.  Trump started it, but it's being done by both major parties now to a degree.    

  I know I don't hate him, I just dislike the way he's doing the things I've expressed my opinions on.   I would totally go to a comedy show if he quit and became a comedian, he can be really funny sometimes. He's an excellent marketer. 

 

ToolMaker wrote:
"Have You ever asked Yourself , Why would people have such a blind hate for somebody they don't know? That makes no sense, its crazy talk...

"Have You ever asked Yourself , Why would people have such a blind hate for somebody they don't know? That makes no sense, its crazy talk and that's how they get You to believe it."

Since I'm pretty sure you don't know President Trump, that's a great question.

TM

joshd wrote:

Do you think the Epstein files were fake?

Is that your fall back position, when people stop listening to you, bring up the Epstein files? C'mon man

TM

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6/23/2026 8:57am Edited Date/Time 6/23/2026 8:58am
joshd wrote:
As Charlie Kirk before he was killed. Jewish Donors are the number one cause of all this mess. (Gay, trans, white hate, toxic masculinity, open boarders...

As Charlie Kirk before he was killed. Jewish Donors are the number one cause of all this mess. (Gay, trans, white hate, toxic masculinity, open boarders. The list goes on and on. Why do you think they killed him? 

Our politicians are just puppets controlled and blackmailed by Israel. Both sides. This why nothing will ever change. 

”We will chop up America and sell it off piece by piece until there is nothing left but the world’s largest welfare state. This is what we do to countries we hate.” Some big eared guy named Ben. 

They will keep on until the youth revolts and it’s going to be ugly. Very ugly. But keep thinking it’s the Democrats, they suck just as bad as the republicans. 

I’m 37 and was fortunate enough to get in a house and have my shit straight coming out of college. I’m doing well for now and have a leg up, but I’m also not arrogant or stupid enough to believe that I’m special. I just got lucky. These kids I talk to coming out of college now have no hope. When young men have no hope at raising a family, they revolt. Your generation could do a lot more listening and learning and help the younger generation, instead you kick them while they are down. 
 

soggy wrote:

This post should get more attention. 

joshd wrote:
Boomers can’t handle someone talking bad about their precious chosen ones. The only reason they arnt bombing us like they are everyone else bc they know we...

Boomers can’t handle someone talking bad about their precious chosen ones. 

The only reason they arnt bombing us like they are everyone else bc they know we can whoop em, for now. 

Bwaaaahaaaaaahaaaaaaaaa

Hey, dearest ageist lil’ boy or whatever you identify as…

We aren’t resulting to violence. The left is...has…and, let’s be clear…your post lets us know who you are and how you think. Oooops! 

You can’t and haven’t “whooped” anything or anyone. So, you just keep tapping away on mom’s keyboard and let’s see how this all plays out.

I love this stuff. They just throw their hate and ignorance down…right out in the open. 

Hilarious…”we can whoop ‘em”.

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6/23/2026 9:06am
 That is one of the things that has fascinated me about the hard core supporters.   They think  You are either a Trump supporter 100%, or...

 That is one of the things that has fascinated me about the hard core supporters.   They think  You are either a Trump supporter 100%, or a  Democrat.  

I think with Trump, that's how he sees people, You either support him totally or he wants nothing to do with you. 

It's very interesting to me.   I think that is a big part  of why his supporters are so loyal. If they truly believe there is no middle ground. They can't  be against anything or they become the evil they are fighting against .  

   

ToolMaker wrote:
Isn't it fascinating that people hate Trump soo much they'd rather see criminal illegals on the street than admit it's good for the country to deport...

Isn't it fascinating that people hate Trump soo much they'd rather see criminal illegals on the street than admit it's good for the country to deport them? Or they will side with violent gang members because they hate Trump soo much. It would be great if they actually wanted a better America than just hate Trump. Sure would be nice to come together on some real issues. Sadly the hate dominates their world. Look at how they fought cleaning up Washington DC. They can't even acknowledge that so many black people are getting shot every weekend in Chicago because that would mean getting help from Trump, but "Black Lives Matter" unless they are shot by other black people I guess. So they will let black people get shot and die rather than let Trump help. Mind boggling isn't it? You don't have to support Trump 100% or even 70% to just see that some people would rather support criminals because of the hate in their heart.

TM

LoudLove wrote:
Most of us don’t “hate” Trump or disagree with most overarching policies. It’s a lack of clearly defined goals and mismanaged implementations that create concerns.  Immigration...

Most of us don’t “hate” Trump or disagree with most overarching policies. It’s a lack of clearly defined goals and mismanaged implementations that create concerns.  Immigration reform and corralling Iran’s nuclear program are worthy endeavors tackled in ramshackle fashion. ICE became more of a problem for Trump than a solution, and Iran proved to be problematic.  It’s these ham-fisted approaches that leave us lifelong conservatives shaking our heads. 

Let's be clear, many of us ARE conservatives which comes from those wanting to "conserve" the good. You're so bent about the process that you fail to acknowledge we are both conservative. But your sacred "methods" have gotten us into such a quagmire by surrendering our power to the liberal democrats that the things we want to conserve have eroded away. You may not like the heavy hand of action but your sacred methods have lost me many of the things that were good in life. Like the ability to walk the streets in the evening (or even day time) without confrontation. The ability to start a business without a government official walking in every week to inspect some bullshit regulation. So while Trump's methods may be over the top on some issues, your way has proven a disaster. That being said, I wish you'd consider new ways to conserve the things that we grew up with that are good.

TM

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6/23/2026 9:06am
soggy wrote:

This post should get more attention. 

joshd wrote:
Boomers can’t handle someone talking bad about their precious chosen ones. The only reason they arnt bombing us like they are everyone else bc they know we...

Boomers can’t handle someone talking bad about their precious chosen ones. 

The only reason they arnt bombing us like they are everyone else bc they know we can whoop em, for now. 

TeamGreen wrote:
BwaaaahaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaHey, dearest ageist lil’ boy or whatever you identify as…We aren’t resulting to violence. The left is...has…and, let’s be clear…your post lets us know who you...

Bwaaaahaaaaaahaaaaaaaaa

Hey, dearest ageist lil’ boy or whatever you identify as…

We aren’t resulting to violence. The left is...has…and, let’s be clear…your post lets us know who you are and how you think. Oooops! 

You can’t and haven’t “whooped” anything or anyone. So, you just keep tapping away on mom’s keyboard and let’s see how this all plays out.

I love this stuff. They just throw their hate and ignorance down…right out in the open. 

Hilarious…”we can whoop ‘em”.

I meant whoop Isreal, as in America can whoop Isreal. Not the left whoop the right. I see the problem now though reading comprehension and cognitive decline is going on here. 

 

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6/23/2026 9:13am
matt.3150 wrote:
I haven’t gone on here saying anything about what I have or what I have done to try and one up anyone.  And I quote TMIn the...

I haven’t gone on here saying anything about what I have or what I have done to try and one up anyone. 
 


And I quote TM

In the meantime, I’ll keep my place “down at the beach”, since you guys haven’t fully wrecked The OC, yet…And I’ll take all my retirement, corporate, real state and other income with me.

That’s a pissing contest! 

🤦
 

ToolMaker wrote:

If you're going to claim to quote me, you probably should use words that I wrote and not someone else.

TM

I actually copied and pasted your words! So sorry

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6/23/2026 9:17am
ToolMaker wrote:
Isn't it fascinating that people hate Trump soo much they'd rather see criminal illegals on the street than admit it's good for the country to deport...

Isn't it fascinating that people hate Trump soo much they'd rather see criminal illegals on the street than admit it's good for the country to deport them? Or they will side with violent gang members because they hate Trump soo much. It would be great if they actually wanted a better America than just hate Trump. Sure would be nice to come together on some real issues. Sadly the hate dominates their world. Look at how they fought cleaning up Washington DC. They can't even acknowledge that so many black people are getting shot every weekend in Chicago because that would mean getting help from Trump, but "Black Lives Matter" unless they are shot by other black people I guess. So they will let black people get shot and die rather than let Trump help. Mind boggling isn't it? You don't have to support Trump 100% or even 70% to just see that some people would rather support criminals because of the hate in their heart.

TM

LoudLove wrote:
Most of us don’t “hate” Trump or disagree with most overarching policies. It’s a lack of clearly defined goals and mismanaged implementations that create concerns.  Immigration...

Most of us don’t “hate” Trump or disagree with most overarching policies. It’s a lack of clearly defined goals and mismanaged implementations that create concerns.  Immigration reform and corralling Iran’s nuclear program are worthy endeavors tackled in ramshackle fashion. ICE became more of a problem for Trump than a solution, and Iran proved to be problematic.  It’s these ham-fisted approaches that leave us lifelong conservatives shaking our heads. 

ToolMaker wrote:
Let's be clear, many of us ARE conservatives which comes from those wanting to "conserve" the good. You're so bent about the process that you fail...

Let's be clear, many of us ARE conservatives which comes from those wanting to "conserve" the good. You're so bent about the process that you fail to acknowledge we are both conservative. But your sacred "methods" have gotten us into such a quagmire by surrendering our power to the liberal democrats that the things we want to conserve have eroded away. You may not like the heavy hand of action but your sacred methods have lost me many of the things that were good in life. Like the ability to walk the streets in the evening (or even day time) without confrontation. The ability to start a business without a government official walking in every week to inspect some bullshit regulation. So while Trump's methods may be over the top on some issues, your way has proven a disaster. That being said, I wish you'd consider new ways to conserve the things that we grew up with that are good.

TM

For me the most frustrating thing is the lack of anyone being able to say No to Donald and have him listen them. He unequivocally thinks he knows everything. 

Good governance comes with checks and balances. Right now Trump is running unchecked and the damage it’s doing to our democracy will be felt for decades to come. 

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