AMA - MXGP Inter series win Bonus

Edited Date/Time 6/10/2026 4:11am

I read on here recently some folks are getting fed up of long series with a rider seemingly wrapping things up early, dropping rounds to make thing stay interesting etc 

But how about creating a further champion within the 2 series?

A big brand like monster, red bull, etc could offer up a win purse for any rider who can get 2 or maybe 3 overall wins in their opposite series. 

Pay a certain amount to win the round, then an extra incentive to go 1-1 

Perhaps a super mega cross title could be thought of for the achievement by the FIM.

At the end of the day our sport is weird in the way that the best don't race the best, which is why you all gets so excited with a top GP rider comes over, I think if we wanted to grow the elite level of this sport we should aim to get the best to race the best more often. 

 

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Monster Energy Supercross is not sanctioned by the FIM.   Feld chose not to renew that in 2021. 

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Monster Energy Supercross is not sanctioned by the FIM.   Feld chose not to renew that in 2021. 

Not sanctioned as a world championship.  I assume still sanctioned under the AMA?

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The best outdoors racers already race the best outdoors racers, it is called the AMA Nationals and happens most Saturdays in the Summer months of the USA! 

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The best outdoors racers already race the best outdoors racers, it is called the AMA Nationals and happens most Saturdays in the Summer months of the...

The best outdoors racers already race the best outdoors racers, it is called the AMA Nationals and happens most Saturdays in the Summer months of the USA! 

How many of them are going to beat Lucas this wk end then ? 

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Why do we need that? The GP champions keep coming here.

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The best outdoors racers already race the best outdoors racers, it is called the AMA Nationals and happens most Saturdays in the Summer months of the...

The best outdoors racers already race the best outdoors racers, it is called the AMA Nationals and happens most Saturdays in the Summer months of the USA! 

Wrong. 

It is called the Motocross des Nations and it happens at the end of the season.

 

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The best outdoors racers already race the best outdoors racers, it is called the AMA Nationals and happens most Saturdays in the Summer months of the...

The best outdoors racers already race the best outdoors racers, it is called the AMA Nationals and happens most Saturdays in the Summer months of the USA! 

ksithumper wrote:

Wrong. 

It is called the Motocross des Nations and it happens at the end of the season.

 

Glad to see trolling is still a thing and works. Do all of the riders ride in the des nations? I read the Lawrences are not going this year so this year will not be all the best, just some of the willing, like every year. 
 

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How many of them are going to beat Lucas this wk end then ? 

Oh maybe one or two, maybe none or a few. Can’t wait to watch the race!

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Why do we need that? The GP champions keep coming here.

I have a feeling if Deegan gets to dominating in AMA, he might have a go in Europe. 

I think you cant overstate the level of interest a US rider would get if they came to Lommel & handed it too all the euros on their own turf. 

I think the issue is the US riders dont think they can win in europe, the Gp riders on the other hand fancy their chances much more.

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kage173 wrote:

Why do we need that? The GP champions keep coming here.

I have a feeling if Deegan gets to dominating in AMA, he might have a go in Europe. I think you cant overstate the level of interest...

I have a feeling if Deegan gets to dominating in AMA, he might have a go in Europe. 

I think you cant overstate the level of interest a US rider would get if they came to Lommel & handed it too all the euros on their own turf. 

I think the issue is the US riders dont think they can win in europe, the Gp riders on the other hand fancy their chances much more.

There might be GP tracks that a top US rider would do well at but Lommel ain’t one of them.

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There might be GP tracks that a top US rider would do well at but Lommel ain’t one of them.

That's exactly why it should be targeted. 

RC was a legend for many reasons, but beating Everts at his home nations, in a deep sand track was a huge statement IMO.

I'm not suggesting top us riders should necessarily want to switch series, SX would always prevent that, but to cherry pick a few to either make a statement, or for some incentive would be pretty cool. 

 

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The best outdoors racers already race the best outdoors racers, it is called the AMA Nationals and happens most Saturdays in the Summer months of the...

The best outdoors racers already race the best outdoors racers, it is called the AMA Nationals and happens most Saturdays in the Summer months of the USA! 

This is patently false. If Coenen, Herlings, and perhaps Gaiser or Febvre were racing the top AMA guys then you're statement would be true. If you mean the best rider in the world races in the USA - then you're correct. 

At any rate the best riders in the world are no longer Americans. 

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kage173 wrote:

Why do we need that? The GP champions keep coming here.

I have a feeling if Deegan gets to dominating in AMA, he might have a go in Europe. I think you cant overstate the level of interest...

I have a feeling if Deegan gets to dominating in AMA, he might have a go in Europe. 

I think you cant overstate the level of interest a US rider would get if they came to Lommel & handed it too all the euros on their own turf. 

I think the issue is the US riders dont think they can win in europe, the Gp riders on the other hand fancy their chances much more.

The chances of Deegan dominating the AMA series when the Lawrences are around are pretty low. The chances of him going to MXGP are even lower. And finally the chances of Deegan beating the top Euros in Lommel are even lower again.

As for the point about US riders in general, the issue is not that they think they can't win. It's more that they can't race SX in Europe, they will earn less money, they won't be able to live in mint compounds, and finally...they don't really care. 

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I read on here recently some folks are getting fed up of long series with a rider seemingly wrapping things up early, dropping rounds to make...

I read on here recently some folks are getting fed up of long series with a rider seemingly wrapping things up early, dropping rounds to make thing stay interesting etc 

But how about creating a further champion within the 2 series?

A big brand like monster, red bull, etc could offer up a win purse for any rider who can get 2 or maybe 3 overall wins in their opposite series. 

Pay a certain amount to win the round, then an extra incentive to go 1-1 

Perhaps a super mega cross title could be thought of for the achievement by the FIM.

At the end of the day our sport is weird in the way that the best don't race the best, which is why you all gets so excited with a top GP rider comes over, I think if we wanted to grow the elite level of this sport we should aim to get the best to race the best more often. 

 

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honda341 wrote:
The best outdoors racers already race the best outdoors racers, it is called the AMA Nationals and happens most Saturdays in the Summer months of the...

The best outdoors racers already race the best outdoors racers, it is called the AMA Nationals and happens most Saturdays in the Summer months of the USA! 

ksithumper wrote:

Wrong. 

It is called the Motocross des Nations and it happens at the end of the season.

 

honda341 wrote:
Glad to see trolling is still a thing and works. Do all of the riders ride in the des nations? I read the Lawrences are not...

Glad to see trolling is still a thing and works. Do all of the riders ride in the des nations? I read the Lawrences are not going this year so this year will not be all the best, just some of the willing, like every year. 
 

This will be Deegan's chance!

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I read on here recently some folks are getting fed up of long series with a rider seemingly wrapping things up early, dropping rounds to make...

I read on here recently some folks are getting fed up of long series with a rider seemingly wrapping things up early, dropping rounds to make thing stay interesting etc 

But how about creating a further champion within the 2 series?

A big brand like monster, red bull, etc could offer up a win purse for any rider who can get 2 or maybe 3 overall wins in their opposite series. 

Pay a certain amount to win the round, then an extra incentive to go 1-1 

Perhaps a super mega cross title could be thought of for the achievement by the FIM.

At the end of the day our sport is weird in the way that the best don't race the best, which is why you all gets so excited with a top GP rider comes over, I think if we wanted to grow the elite level of this sport we should aim to get the best to race the best more often. 

 

Back in 2022 at the Red Bud MXDN the AMA came to a vocal agreement with FIM to have a USGP/AMA National combined event. This would have been a huge concession by the AMA to lose a ton of money and hurt the privateers who race the whole AMA Outdoor series. But they wanted it. And it would have been massive and a huge boost for MXGP in the US. But FIM being the way they are if they are not getting 100% of everything, they lose interest and they never moved forward. It's such a friggen shame. They could have had a massive event and even do a Canadian GP to make this a cost affective trip. FIM doesn't care about the future of the sport at the highest level. Such a shame

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Back in 2022 at the Red Bud MXDN the AMA came to a vocal agreement with FIM to have a USGP/AMA National combined event. This would...

Back in 2022 at the Red Bud MXDN the AMA came to a vocal agreement with FIM to have a USGP/AMA National combined event. This would have been a huge concession by the AMA to lose a ton of money and hurt the privateers who race the whole AMA Outdoor series. But they wanted it. And it would have been massive and a huge boost for MXGP in the US. But FIM being the way they are if they are not getting 100% of everything, they lose interest and they never moved forward. It's such a friggen shame. They could have had a massive event and even do a Canadian GP to make this a cost affective trip. FIM doesn't care about the future of the sport at the highest level. Such a shame

I remember reading an article few years back about this. Apparently there was some enthusiasm for it, but for some reason it cant happen. 

I'd imagine there would be all sorts of corporate deals that would conflict, plus Tv etc

If they could figure out a combined GP - AMA each side of the pond that would be the holy grail, can you imagine the hype !

 

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6/10/2026 4:16am
The chances of Deegan dominating the AMA series when the Lawrences are around are pretty low. The chances of him going to MXGP are even lower...

The chances of Deegan dominating the AMA series when the Lawrences are around are pretty low. The chances of him going to MXGP are even lower. And finally the chances of Deegan beating the top Euros in Lommel are even lower again.

As for the point about US riders in general, the issue is not that they think they can't win. It's more that they can't race SX in Europe, they will earn less money, they won't be able to live in mint compounds, and finally...they don't really care. 

You've missed the point. 

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This is patently false. If Coenen, Herlings, and perhaps Gaiser or Febvre were racing the top AMA guys then you're statement would be true. If you...

This is patently false. If Coenen, Herlings, and perhaps Gaiser or Febvre were racing the top AMA guys then you're statement would be true. If you mean the best rider in the world races in the USA - then you're correct. 

At any rate the best riders in the world are no longer Americans. 

I’m going to use the last results from an international contest, 2025 des nations’ last race, 1, 2, & 3 were AMA riders soooo  patently CORRECT hahaha. Your stated riders, except Herlings was not chosen by his team, were in that race. It’s fun to belittle some posts about des nations and then use des nations as proving point of others haha 

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The chances of Deegan dominating the AMA series when the Lawrences are around are pretty low. The chances of him going to MXGP are even lower...

The chances of Deegan dominating the AMA series when the Lawrences are around are pretty low. The chances of him going to MXGP are even lower. And finally the chances of Deegan beating the top Euros in Lommel are even lower again.

As for the point about US riders in general, the issue is not that they think they can't win. It's more that they can't race SX in Europe, they will earn less money, they won't be able to live in mint compounds, and finally...they don't really care. 

You've missed the point. 

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kage173 wrote:

Why do we need that? The GP champions keep coming here.

I have a feeling if Deegan gets to dominating in AMA, he might have a go in Europe. I think you cant overstate the level of interest...

I have a feeling if Deegan gets to dominating in AMA, he might have a go in Europe. 

I think you cant overstate the level of interest a US rider would get if they came to Lommel & handed it too all the euros on their own turf. 

I think the issue is the US riders dont think they can win in europe, the Gp riders on the other hand fancy their chances much more.

The real issue is money…they simply can make more money racing in the US than GP’s if it were the other way around you would begin to see more US riders giving the GP’s a try and fewer GP riders willing to race in the US….

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DonM wrote:
The real issue is money…they simply can make more money racing in the US than GP’s if it were the other way around you would begin...

The real issue is money…they simply can make more money racing in the US than GP’s if it were the other way around you would begin to see more US riders giving the GP’s a try and fewer GP riders willing to race in the US….

Yes that's true. 

I'm trying to imagine a way that riders could have the best of all worlds. No need to quit any series, just add in a a couple races or maybe just one in your opposing series, go 1-1 like Herlings did & be rewarding in some way which makes it worth while.

Herling's got huge respect when he did it, Id like to see a US rider pull it off in Europe, even if it was just for one round. 

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I have a feeling if Deegan gets to dominating in AMA, he might have a go in Europe. I think you cant overstate the level of interest...

I have a feeling if Deegan gets to dominating in AMA, he might have a go in Europe. 

I think you cant overstate the level of interest a US rider would get if they came to Lommel & handed it too all the euros on their own turf. 

I think the issue is the US riders dont think they can win in europe, the Gp riders on the other hand fancy their chances much more.

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kage173 wrote:

Why do we need that? The GP champions keep coming here.

I have a feeling if Deegan gets to dominating in AMA, he might have a go in Europe. I think you cant overstate the level of interest...

I have a feeling if Deegan gets to dominating in AMA, he might have a go in Europe. 

I think you cant overstate the level of interest a US rider would get if they came to Lommel & handed it too all the euros on their own turf. 

I think the issue is the US riders dont think they can win in europe, the Gp riders on the other hand fancy their chances much more.

DonM wrote:
The real issue is money…they simply can make more money racing in the US than GP’s if it were the other way around you would begin...

The real issue is money…they simply can make more money racing in the US than GP’s if it were the other way around you would begin to see more US riders giving the GP’s a try and fewer GP riders willing to race in the US….

I believe that was one of my points...

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Just because you wouldn't have the balls to do it doesn't mean others wont. 

Deegan literally just said it himself when asked what he thought about the Coenen's coming over. 

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