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The peaceful transfer of power is the Inauguration Day. Jan 6th is the day they certify the vote in congress. 2 separate things.
This is correct.💯
Bullshit
It's unflattering no matter how it's painted. If the people that were charged were actually Dems, then Trump is setting up a taxpayer slush fund for Dems. If Dems somehow tricked J6 Reps into committing crimes, then J6 Reps are low IQ soulless tofu mind slaves that are easily manipulated like a child into being criminals.
If J6 Reps did commit these crimes and the other observing Reps are doing whatever mental gymnastics to excuse it, then the J6'er moral bankruptcy has turned into the moral bankruptcy of the Rep observer. The only win for any outside observer is to admonish the crimes of those manipulated by the president into committing crimes to satisfy the president's moral bankruptcy. That's all there is to it.
Same as how it would have been done fifty years ago. This is why conservatives and Republicans could not be further apart today. The former served a nation and the conservative ideologies, the latter simply serves and extremely flawed human. Extremely flawed.
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So how do you explain allot of the J6th insurrectionist that plead guilty? Then even if you believe that Bidens DOJ was wrongfully prosecuted them, how do you get a grand jury to indict first and then a jury of there priors that there own defense team approved to convict them? Trumps DOJ can’t get many indicts let alone a conviction? How does that conspiracy theory work?
Surely you're aware of our mafia style plea system...? There's nothing unique going on there. It's why they overcharge everyone by default, because that's the setup for a plea deal. You're forced to choose, either you take something small'ish right now, or you roll the dice on another outcome that could either be total freedom, or the rest of your life in prison. Nobody cared about that mafia bs when it was happening to tweekers and crackheads.
Well ok, I get that but that doesn’t answer the second half though.
The things that Trump tells his DOJ to investigate fizzle out because the legal footing isn't that great. Even you and I can kick off an investigation into any regular person, but if there's nothing actionable, then there's nothing actionable. Hanlon's Razor, as boring as it may be, wins out far more often than not. Faaaaaaar more often than not. But, the National Enquirer has sold billions of copies for a reason, because people often choose to live in a world of entertaining lies over the boring truth.
We all need to have a duality within ourselves which allows a lot more room between what we want to happen versus what the information points to happening. For some reason everyone is failing at that today. Not just the right, we saw it heavily from the left when it came to Biden's cognition, or even recently with Maya Wiley a black civil rights activist that couldn't denounce nazi shit when it came to a Dem. Everyone is insanely disingenuous today.
Literally nothing will be addressed in government until people are honest and demand honesty from others. It's just not possible to fix anything when all the symptoms we're being told, are lies. Whenever you see nothing change, especially debt and fiscal responsibility because that public theft has infected both parties, then you know that everyone is full of shit and so are the collective masses for allowing it. None of us need to argue about it, just look at numbers and there's nothing to discuss. The left and right are much closer to being on the same side than our government would have us believe, we've just allowed our anger to blind us to reason, which is precisely the plan so the theft can continue.
P.S. I gave you a thumbs up to show that I wasn't the whiner that gave you the thumbs down. I hate the "I just don't like this guy" types of thumbs down, way too clique, which is part of our problem.
^ This
No shit.
You should be attempting to school ns503 about the power transfer process. He's the one who doesn't seem to have a handle on the process.
Your post sounded like Jan 6th was not an important day as if it made no difference.
The entire point of Jan 6th insurrectionist was to pressure Mike Pence into saying Trump had more electoral college delegate than Biden which was false.
Well just because the Jan 6th attempt failed doesn’t mean it didn’t change a thing.
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Is it coming out on some right wing podcasts! What I find really laughable is how Trump and his cronies say Bidens FBI infiltrated the Jan 6th insurrection and were the reason for it. Trump was the president at the time! 🤦🤣
Yep.
It was an obvious insurrection. Most serious political coups are as super well-orchestrated by a group of unarmed hillbillies as this one was.
How many days/weeks did it take to certify the 2020 election? Must have taken forever.
So in your mind since it only delayed the verification of the election by about 13 hours, killed one officer and hurt 140 others, plus the $30 million in damages to the capitol it was all ok! I guess in your world then if you commit a crime it’s only a crime if you’re successful! 🤔
I think we have a disagreement here about how people define ‘peaceful transfer of power’.
To most constitutional scholars, the peaceful transfer of power isn’t just the inauguration on January 20th. It’s the entire constitutional process that starts after the election and ends with the new president taking office.
The certification of electoral votes by Congress is one of the required steps in that process. If someone attempts to stop or disrupt that step outside the legal process, they’re interfering with the transfer of power, even if they ultimately fail and the inauguration still happens.
Saying “the transfer of power happened anyway” seems similar to saying an attempted bank robbery doesn’t count because the robber got caught before leaving with the money. The fact that the attempt failed doesn’t mean there wasn’t an attempt.
No officer was killed and you inflated the damage by 27 to 28.5 million. Were you on the J6th committee ? Ashli Babbitt was killed. Shot in the head by a DC officer.
When you're breaking through glass with an angry mob and a cop is pointing a gun at you telling you to stop, you should probably stop. America used to know that.
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Yes an officer died! The overall numbers are around $30 million including some security upgrades. Ashli was killed while trying to climb through a window to get into the house speaker lobby area.
You’re wasting your time. They’re too dug in. Best to spend time on more productive endeavors.
You’re absolutely right about that.
No cop was killed on Jan 6th. Not even a debate. As for the killing of Babbitt goes, I can’t say if it was justified or not. If she wasn’t there it wouldn’t have happened that’s for sure. Just like Pretti and Good being killed in Minnesota. Sometimes you FAFO.
Yes the broken glass and mob part referring to Babbit. It was certainly justified, but whether or not she deserved it is a moral rabbit hole. I don't particularly like the idea of killing people for breaking into a building, but the angry mob part complicates things. I don't doubt that the cop was scared shitless, but if he had his wits about him, obviously there were more people than there were rounds in his magazine, so killing her was increasing the risk for his own life.
The general rule is, don't put armed people into dangerous situations where they have to act perfectly in order for you to survive.
No reason to shoot an unarmed woman in the head.
She was no threat
Ok the cop didn’t not die on Jan 6th is technically correct, but the officer died from his injuries that occurred on Jan 6th. It’s still the same thing. Give me a break.
Neither Pretti or Good were being offensive they were retreating and on public ground unlike Babbit.
No he didn’t! He died of natural causes, having a stroke. That would indicate high blood pressure that more than likely rose higher from stress of everything.
Events the paper said played a roll.
If a mob was breaking into your house, would you defend your family?
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