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Hope so, don't want to listen to him gloat over the entire summer
I can't see him being top 5 with Hunter , Jett , Eli , Prado and Sexton being ahead of him
Alessi coming out of amateurs versus a 2x National champ and a 2x 250 Supercross champ, arent really comparable.
The hype is real and it’s gonna be a rough 10 years if you don’t think this kid will be on the box regularly indoors and out. 🤷♂️
I’m here for it, Whatever “it” is. Love when we have more questions and unknowns than anything. Looking forward to the series
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#1 all time in combined sx/mx/smx wins on a 250f (32) and only rider in 250 class history to never miss a gate drop (4yrs, 73 starts). He’s easily top 3 all time in 125/250 and arguably the best ever on a 250f.
See sx/mx stat comparisons below 👇
No point in debating how Deegan will do we can find out in a week+ some. Your comment about the 450 riders being more consistent did crack me up a ton. Chase sexton won a 450 Supercross title because the entire class was injured. The next season a lone Cooper Webb took it from a disgruntled Chase sexton with half of the class being out. Jett’s perfect season the only competition was a disgruntled Chase sexton. The only consistent thing in the 450 class is a disguntled Chase sexton being in the mix.
U don’t think him having 20+ more starts than Jett means anything? lol you are part of the problem my friend.
I don't understand why people think pointing out his history in the 250 class shows he's going to do well on a 450, but others pointing out his history of avoiding des Nations doesn't show he'll probably do it again (based on downvotes of the quoted post)...
20 more starts is lala land
That’s a bold statement cotton
Coming from the guy who was comparing Haiden's points to the 450 class and using that as a ploy to say he was better than them. You're delusional if you think an extra 20 starts doesn't have any implications to any kind of win/loss ratio.
I didn’t do that? And also where does Deegs have 20 more starts than Jett? At Lorrettas?
Yes, 22 races, zero wins.
Oh, I'm dreadfully sorry Karen. I'll make sure to proofread my posts next time...
Win percentage:
Jett Lawrence: 45 per cent - 60 starts combined in SX and MX
Donger: 38 per cent - 73 starts combined in SX and MX
James Stewart: 82 per cent - 56 starts combined in SX and MX (note: this is in 125/250 changeover era)
Conclusion: Donger greatest 250 rider of all time? Horseshit.
38 may find himself on his head trying to stay with the top 5 guys on the 450. 30+2 x 2 on the 45 will test him.
RE: this thread. Correction, it wasn't points but it was race overalls in the 250 class compared to the 450s.
I decided to do my own research and find out how many starts Haiden and Jett have in 250SX.
According to the Racer X Vault;
-Haiden raced a total of 39 career 250SX starts, accumulating 14 wins in 250SX
-Jett raced a total of 31 career 250SX starts (technically 32 but for some reason his Indy 2 DNS is credited), accumulating 13 wins in 250SX
Credit where it's due, Haiden killed it, but with an extra 8 starts he's only managed to squeeze one win over Jett. All you've done for the past 3 months is passive aggressively make noise over Jett not having Haiden's win streak, yet Jett has a higher rate (41.9%) than Haiden (35.9%) in 250SX.
But Deegs has the better win percentage in 250 outdoor mx which is supposed to be Jett’s specialty.
Deegs 14 wins in 30 starts = 46.7%
Jett 14 wins in 33 starts = 42.4%
With an extra 3 starts Jett only managed to tie Deegs for 14 wins. Jett also won fewer individual motos and podiumed only 19 times compared to Deegs’ 25 times. 😈
Pit Row
I suppose you won't count the race where Deegan was docked (though everyone knows he crossed the line first and the penalty was bs), or point out that of those 8 less starts, 4 of them were in in Jett's rookie season where Jett had an average finish of 7th place. Do you think Jett would have won those 4 races in his rookie season? I don't. Three more of Jett's starts were in his second and third season where he won less races than in his final season in 250 sx, much like Haiden won more in his final season. So again, do you think Jett would have won those races as well?
You can make statistics say anything you want. But when you are honest and not hell bent on negative everything Deegan like most of your posts are, they are about even as far as 250 sx stats are concerned. You are using statistics to cushion a weak argument because you are not considering all of the variables. You are only considering what favors your outcome.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics".
If Deegan goes 22-0 I'll live stream myself eating my own shit, I'll stream the entire thing, taking the shit and then eating, no tricks no Chris Angel Mind Freak stuff...legit eat my own shit.
It’s not that deep.
I actually really enjoy that you just dug up a post from two years ago, I post a a lot. Lmao that had to take you a while, and you weren’t even right
Also I still have no idea what this 20 extra starts are
And for the record I don’t think Deegs is the best 250 rider of all time, I think he slots in right next to/behind RV but ahead of Jett.
Stew, RC, and Barnett are the greatest small bore riders of all time, in that order.
OK Now I'm rooting for Deegan.
"avoiding" he wasnt invited the first year, STAR confirmed this even if there were rumors of him going, it wasnt up to him. the second two years he had injuries requiring surgery. ANYONE else skips MXoN to have surgery and focus on the real home championships and theyd get a pass. 38 has to get screws taken out of his wrist and he's scared😂
he has 10 more starts then him, and if you take away SMX starts(6) which jett wasnt eligible for because it didnt exist, then he has 4....cope harder
*Four years in the regional class
Same as Jettson…which is why they are slightly below RV/Stew/RC in my eyes
Also I like to remind everyone every so often that James Stewart raced 31 125 nationals and won 28 of them. All three losses were mechanical DNFs. No “moving up” hype will ever surpass James’.
Great catch.
And all but the last one was on a 125 2 stroke as well.
And how can you forget how fast he was on that 250f debut at GH!!!
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