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Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety".
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Thats just a few cops...the data pulled in from flock is available for sale and completely legal by 2nd and third parties....
I wonder what the overlap is between people who are against these but who would defend the right to record police in public? The data being sold on you collected from the thing you're holding in your hands is far more intrusive than public cameras.
I personally have zero expectation of privacy when I'm in public and am not at all bothered by these. Track me all you want. You'll get a lot of data but it will be very boring noise. Come onto my property and it's a different story.
Louisville identified and arrested a guy who fired shots during road rage incident two days ago using these.
What liberty do you feel these are taking from you? I would argue it's one that's probably never existed, legally or ethically.
There’s an app/site that tells you where all the flocks are.
They’re legal, as I understand it, due to the “non-presumption of privacy” when you’re out and about in public.
Still, it reeks of Big Brother.
Ya know, a guy could get a plate from one of the “less cooperative” states.
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Data mining has become a 24/7 reality these days.
From inside your home, through your phone, computer, streaming service, and cable boxes.
Cameras are everywhere outside, recording you're every move.
Traffic cams, parking lots, in store, self checkouts, all record flow, and facial recognition.
Even out here in the rural areas. Cams mounted atop utility poles recording you coming into, and out of oue nearby town.
Even boat ramps.
And our local, and notoriously corrupt, sheriff's department are well known for following behind, reading license plates.
Ranger's in the GSMNP patrol parking areas reading plates, and notifying local LEO's if there's a vehicle in any kind of violation.
Cameras in their lots too. And flying drones with infrared, looking for pirate camping outside of the sites you have to pay for.
(Especially along the AT during the thru hiker push)
And it seems newer cars will have monitoring devices.
And look how they're trying their best to do away with our cash society.
We're well past the big brother aspect of it all.
We have them all over where I live. I'm not sure how I feel about them. They are too Big Brother to me, but on the other hand they have helped catch some bad guys. I'll just keep paying my big taxes and keep quiet. 😒
I’m concerned about where it stops. Cars will be used for road user taxes soon; have commercials on screen before you can drive, and monitor distracting driving. Joking sort of cause I’ve heard all these ideas thrown out. I see a 72 ford pickup and flip phone in my near future 🙂
you'll figure out how you feel about them real quick when you're at the police station defending yourself against a fucking privately owned AI driven camera company accusing you of a crime you did not commit.
party of "small government" loves these things because they think they will hurt other people. turns out AI doesn't discriminate the way they do.
There are states that still have dealer paper plates when you leave with your new car…
I'm pretty firmly planted in the FUCK THOSE THINGS camp. And fuck the guys who think they need to see / monitor every square of inch of the globe. What's next ? Speeding tickets for going 2mph over the limit ? Auto withdrawal from your bank account ?
Attn. Mr. Wheeler, $475.00 has been deducted from your account ending in 12345 for driving 67 mph on 6-7-26. The posted limit is 65 MPH. If you wish to dispute this citation, send a detailed letter explaining why you belief this was an error. After a review you will be contacted with a court date. Typically 18-24 months. Thank you for your attention regarding this matter.
Then, the third party you’re talking to about your claim doesn’t speak English.
Bill probably isn't too far off the mark, actually.
Pretty much everything customer service related will be AI, so it will speak whatever language you do.
Goes back to my previous comment about getting us away from a cash society.
Police are public servants and need to be held accountable to different standards as such. I am not. Additionally, regardless of that status it is not the same as someone recording me on their cell phone, and you know these are not equivalents.
On the general privacy invasion "of that thing I hold in my hands", yes cell phones are a nightmare for privacy, and it could be different. Lets not use one terrible action to justify another. Also, you opt in to cell phone use, and what level you want of it.. I am not opting in to flock cameras, nor do I have the ability to opt out.
Pit Row
You opt into flock cameras and your car being searched etc etc etc every time you choose to drive on public roads. You absolutely have the ability to opt out of doing so. Something something about liberty or comfort in exchange for safety...... we all make the trade, it's just a matter of where you draw the line. I'm confident you haven't avoided going somewhere based on the knowledge that a camera is present.
I think that's really at the root of what bothers a lot of people.... the surveillance makes them uncomfortable, but not enough to change behavior, so we want someone else to do something about it so we don't have to.
Unfortunately we're already seeing early stages of on-screen ads playing out.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/stellantis-is-spamming-owners-screens-with-pop-up-ads-for-new-car-discounts
"the owner says it covers the “entire screen … every time you stop, even if you hit OK.” It also gives the option to make a Bluetooth call, which likely connects you to a rep who can walk you through the sign-up process if you so choose."
I agree with some of that, but the 'agree to your car being searched' is a little bit iffy due to that dang 4th amendment though.
What you’re describing works great in controlled environments where people actually have viable alternatives. Real life isn’t a lab maze.
In the U.S., the overwhelming majority of people commute by car, not because they love traffic, but because they don’t have realistic options. Public transit coverage is limited, biking distance is often impractical, and jobs aren’t evenly distributed near where people live.
So ‘just change behavior’ isn’t like choosing a different route in a maze. For a lot of people it means changing jobs, moving homes, or taking a pay cut—things that carry real financial consequences and aren’t reversible overnight.
Behavior follows structure. If the system doesn’t give people alternatives, you don’t get behavior change you just get people absorbing the cost.
I don't care if this stops every criminal that drives by one, if the rights of one single person is violated, they ALL need to go and the company needs sued into oblivion. It just absolutely blows me away that any free American could possibly justify the existence of these.
I'm working with my local commissioners to get an ordinance that bans these abominations.
Deflock.me is the website, I've added probably 50 cameras in my county.
I had heard rumblings 😣
In my city there are drones that fly at a high altitude and just watch large areas. They can zoom in when they want to. They can watch you in your own backyard and you won’t even know it. Seems like an invasion of privacy to me.
Johnny B just did another vid on Tuesday, lol...
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