We have so much oil

4/19/2026 7:29pm
TeamGreen wrote:

You gotta love what an “Intellectual Fail” some of these angry hater threads are 🤣

ToolMaker wrote:

The thread got much better when we squirreled off in the direction of surfing. Hell, I even interjected an oil story. 🤣

Rawly wrote:
Grew up surfing Manhattan / El Porto next to the big oil storage tanks in El Segundo where the tankers loaded and unloaded oil and its...

Grew up surfing Manhattan / El Porto next to the big oil storage tanks in El Segundo where the tankers loaded and unloaded oil and its byproducts . Nothing like getting tar on your feet then the transfer of it to your wax and then to your front side. 
   Cant mention El Segundo without bringing up Redd Foxx. He liked to say that’s where he’d take her when his lady wanted him to do her where it stinks 🤣 

Now that made me lol

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I was born in Redondo and lived there until I was 13. Cleaning tar off your feet with lighter fluid was just a regular part of going to the beach.  

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Economics 101

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Self inflicted gunshot to the face. To the entire planet. Hold him accountable. 

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Is everyone happy?

Say one day you get told that your best friend is going to die, but they can't tell you when. 

Then they tell you that they have a solution, kind of...

This solution is to poison the body to near death to save you. Maybe. 

 

I can't imagine being in a more terrible  position. 

Yet here I sit.

 

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4/24/2026 6:48am
sumdood wrote:
I was born in Redondo and lived there until I was 13. Cleaning tar off your feet with lighter fluid was just a regular part of...

I was born in Redondo and lived there until I was 13. Cleaning tar off your feet with lighter fluid was just a regular part of going to the beach.  

so...for someone that never lived west of Dallas, where did the tar balls come from?

Contamination from tankers loading and unloading?

Is there a hot tar spring somewhere underwater that gets washed up unto beach?

Spill the details please.......

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4/24/2026 7:01am Edited Date/Time 4/24/2026 7:02am
sumdood wrote:
I was born in Redondo and lived there until I was 13. Cleaning tar off your feet with lighter fluid was just a regular part of...

I was born in Redondo and lived there until I was 13. Cleaning tar off your feet with lighter fluid was just a regular part of going to the beach.  

JustMX wrote:
so...for someone that never lived west of Dallas, where did the tar balls come from?Contamination from tankers loading and unloading?Is there a hot tar spring somewhere...

so...for someone that never lived west of Dallas, where did the tar balls come from?

Contamination from tankers loading and unloading?

Is there a hot tar spring somewhere underwater that gets washed up unto beach?

Spill the details please.......

I remember lots of tar at the Corpus Christi beaches I use to go to when I was a kid. No tar here at all where I live now in San Diego.  No off shore drilling here. 

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4/24/2026 7:11am
OriginMX wrote:

Self inflicted gunshot to the face. To the entire planet. Hold him accountable. 

I'm worried for your family (I'd also be worried for your friends, but they probably keep a safe distance from you already). 

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4/24/2026 7:13am
sumdood wrote:
I was born in Redondo and lived there until I was 13. Cleaning tar off your feet with lighter fluid was just a regular part of...

I was born in Redondo and lived there until I was 13. Cleaning tar off your feet with lighter fluid was just a regular part of going to the beach.  

JustMX wrote:
so...for someone that never lived west of Dallas, where did the tar balls come from?Contamination from tankers loading and unloading?Is there a hot tar spring somewhere...

so...for someone that never lived west of Dallas, where did the tar balls come from?

Contamination from tankers loading and unloading?

Is there a hot tar spring somewhere underwater that gets washed up unto beach?

Spill the details please.......

Ob917 wrote:
I remember lots of tar at the Corpus Christi beaches I use to go to when I was a kid. No tar here at all where...

I remember lots of tar at the Corpus Christi beaches I use to go to when I was a kid. No tar here at all where I live now in San Diego.  No off shore drilling here. 

Only until the recent past have the beaches been mostly clean of tar balls. In the 70's and 80's I don't remember a beach trip without having tar all over the bottoms of our feet. Head up north and it is still pretty prevalent. Jalama beach is notoriously bad for tar balls.

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4/24/2026 8:41am Edited Date/Time 4/24/2026 8:41am
sumdood wrote:
I was born in Redondo and lived there until I was 13. Cleaning tar off your feet with lighter fluid was just a regular part of...

I was born in Redondo and lived there until I was 13. Cleaning tar off your feet with lighter fluid was just a regular part of going to the beach.  

JustMX wrote:
so...for someone that never lived west of Dallas, where did the tar balls come from?Contamination from tankers loading and unloading?Is there a hot tar spring somewhere...

so...for someone that never lived west of Dallas, where did the tar balls come from?

Contamination from tankers loading and unloading?

Is there a hot tar spring somewhere underwater that gets washed up unto beach?

Spill the details please.......

Some of it is from oil production off shore, tankers leaking, etc. But it also can happen organically because well, it's earth and geology and shit.

I think tightening up the regulations helped the gulf around the Houston ship chanel quite a bit,  Galveston used to be horrible. 

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Only until the recent past have the beaches been mostly clean of tar balls. In the 70's and 80's I don't remember a beach trip without...

Only until the recent past have the beaches been mostly clean of tar balls. In the 70's and 80's I don't remember a beach trip without having tar all over the bottoms of our feet. Head up north and it is still pretty prevalent. Jalama beach is notoriously bad for tar balls.

I was born and raised a mile or so from the T-heads in Corpus,  grew up on McGee beach and the jetties.   Tar balls and Portuguese man-o-wars were part of life back then.

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SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Is everyone happy?Say one day you get told that your best friend is going to die, but they can't tell you when. Then they tell you that...

Is everyone happy?

Say one day you get told that your best friend is going to die, but they can't tell you when. 

Then they tell you that they have a solution, kind of...

This solution is to poison the body to near death to save you. Maybe. 

 

I can't imagine being in a more terrible  position. 

Yet here I sit.

 

Damn

Praying for a miracle. 

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4/24/2026 11:30am
SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Is everyone happy?Say one day you get told that your best friend is going to die, but they can't tell you when. Then they tell you that...

Is everyone happy?

Say one day you get told that your best friend is going to die, but they can't tell you when. 

Then they tell you that they have a solution, kind of...

This solution is to poison the body to near death to save you. Maybe. 

 

I can't imagine being in a more terrible  position. 

Yet here I sit.

 

I don’t mean to pry…. I’m not understanding fully the meaning of your post. Are you ok?

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4/24/2026 12:14pm
SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Is everyone happy?Say one day you get told that your best friend is going to die, but they can't tell you when. Then they tell you that...

Is everyone happy?

Say one day you get told that your best friend is going to die, but they can't tell you when. 

Then they tell you that they have a solution, kind of...

This solution is to poison the body to near death to save you. Maybe. 

 

I can't imagine being in a more terrible  position. 

Yet here I sit.

 

I don’t mean to pry…. I’m not understanding fully the meaning of your post. Are you ok?

No pry, it's cool.

Me? OK. My wife? Not so much. 

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SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Is everyone happy?Say one day you get told that your best friend is going to die, but they can't tell you when. Then they tell you that...

Is everyone happy?

Say one day you get told that your best friend is going to die, but they can't tell you when. 

Then they tell you that they have a solution, kind of...

This solution is to poison the body to near death to save you. Maybe. 

 

I can't imagine being in a more terrible  position. 

Yet here I sit.

 

I don’t mean to pry…. I’m not understanding fully the meaning of your post. Are you ok?

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

No pry, it's cool.

Me? OK. My wife? Not so much. 

I’m sorry to hear that. Prayers sent.

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4/24/2026 12:34pm
SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Is everyone happy?Say one day you get told that your best friend is going to die, but they can't tell you when. Then they tell you that...

Is everyone happy?

Say one day you get told that your best friend is going to die, but they can't tell you when. 

Then they tell you that they have a solution, kind of...

This solution is to poison the body to near death to save you. Maybe. 

 

I can't imagine being in a more terrible  position. 

Yet here I sit.

 

I don’t mean to pry…. I’m not understanding fully the meaning of your post. Are you ok?

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

No pry, it's cool.

Me? OK. My wife? Not so much. 

Wasn’t sure what you were alluding to but I’m so sorry brother. Prayers sent. 

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SEEMEFIRST wrote:

No pry, it's cool.

Me? OK. My wife? Not so much. 

Prayers to you both, and strength for your wife. 

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SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Is everyone happy?Say one day you get told that your best friend is going to die, but they can't tell you when. Then they tell you that...

Is everyone happy?

Say one day you get told that your best friend is going to die, but they can't tell you when. 

Then they tell you that they have a solution, kind of...

This solution is to poison the body to near death to save you. Maybe. 

 

I can't imagine being in a more terrible  position. 

Yet here I sit.

 

I don’t mean to pry…. I’m not understanding fully the meaning of your post. Are you ok?

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

No pry, it's cool.

Me? OK. My wife? Not so much. 

I definitely feel for you.  We are operating on a 'when, not if' prognosis for my wife also.  She responded well to this batch of chemo so that buys us some time, but it will be a miracle for us if she gets 5 more years.  Sometimes it's something we can put out of our minds, and sometimes it's the only thing we can think about.......

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I remember being stupid enough to beLIEve in peak oil.... then got old enough to learn they just go back to old fields and pow, more oil again.... oil/gas is one of the biggest scam in this realm... 

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I don’t mean to pry…. I’m not understanding fully the meaning of your post. Are you ok?

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

No pry, it's cool.

Me? OK. My wife? Not so much. 

APLMAN99 wrote:
I definitely feel for you.  We are operating on a 'when, not if' prognosis for my wife also.  She responded well to this batch of chemo...

I definitely feel for you.  We are operating on a 'when, not if' prognosis for my wife also.  She responded well to this batch of chemo so that buys us some time, but it will be a miracle for us if she gets 5 more years.  Sometimes it's something we can put out of our minds, and sometimes it's the only thing we can think about.......

Thanks, fellas.

Yeah, Kevin, I remember your wife's struggles and prayers for successful treatment. 

Our extra problem is "will she survive the treatment" because she is already compromised from a stroke 4 years ago, and already struggles to just care for herself. We have to make a decision and since her stroke, she doesn't understand speech very well and explaining things to her is difficult, especially something as complicated as this. I'm not looking for sympathy,  but it's going to be pretty much my decision, and that's kicking my ass.

Anyhow,  I wish the best for you guys, and apologize to everyone for taking this string into left field. 

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4/24/2026 5:07pm
SEEMEFIRST wrote:

No pry, it's cool.

Me? OK. My wife? Not so much. 

APLMAN99 wrote:
I definitely feel for you.  We are operating on a 'when, not if' prognosis for my wife also.  She responded well to this batch of chemo...

I definitely feel for you.  We are operating on a 'when, not if' prognosis for my wife also.  She responded well to this batch of chemo so that buys us some time, but it will be a miracle for us if she gets 5 more years.  Sometimes it's something we can put out of our minds, and sometimes it's the only thing we can think about.......

SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Thanks, fellas.Yeah, Kevin, I remember your wife's struggles and prayers for successful treatment. Our extra problem is "will she survive the treatment" because she is already compromised...

Thanks, fellas.

Yeah, Kevin, I remember your wife's struggles and prayers for successful treatment. 

Our extra problem is "will she survive the treatment" because she is already compromised from a stroke 4 years ago, and already struggles to just care for herself. We have to make a decision and since her stroke, she doesn't understand speech very well and explaining things to her is difficult, especially something as complicated as this. I'm not looking for sympathy,  but it's going to be pretty much my decision, and that's kicking my ass.

Anyhow,  I wish the best for you guys, and apologize to everyone for taking this string into left field. 

No apologies needed, my friend. I know this has been coming to a head for a while, now.

You’ve been dealing with a lot and, frankly, I’m jus’ damn proud of ya.

You and your girl are in my thoughts.

Think I’ll come on out in a few weeks and we’ll have a whisky and jus’ hang out…? 

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4/24/2026 5:41pm
SEEMEFIRST wrote:

No pry, it's cool.

Me? OK. My wife? Not so much. 

APLMAN99 wrote:
I definitely feel for you.  We are operating on a 'when, not if' prognosis for my wife also.  She responded well to this batch of chemo...

I definitely feel for you.  We are operating on a 'when, not if' prognosis for my wife also.  She responded well to this batch of chemo so that buys us some time, but it will be a miracle for us if she gets 5 more years.  Sometimes it's something we can put out of our minds, and sometimes it's the only thing we can think about.......

SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Thanks, fellas.Yeah, Kevin, I remember your wife's struggles and prayers for successful treatment. Our extra problem is "will she survive the treatment" because she is already compromised...

Thanks, fellas.

Yeah, Kevin, I remember your wife's struggles and prayers for successful treatment. 

Our extra problem is "will she survive the treatment" because she is already compromised from a stroke 4 years ago, and already struggles to just care for herself. We have to make a decision and since her stroke, she doesn't understand speech very well and explaining things to her is difficult, especially something as complicated as this. I'm not looking for sympathy,  but it's going to be pretty much my decision, and that's kicking my ass.

Anyhow,  I wish the best for you guys, and apologize to everyone for taking this string into left field. 

Damn Karl, that's heavy. Lean on your friends and us kooks here if you need anything. I'll be sending all the positive energy I can muster over your way.

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I really appreciate it, boys. It may seem like "how the hell does this help him, really", but it does help. I'll take all the vibes I can get.

Oh, and Manu, as for the whisky, I do know a guy.

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4/25/2026 9:58am
SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Is everyone happy?Say one day you get told that your best friend is going to die, but they can't tell you when. Then they tell you that...

Is everyone happy?

Say one day you get told that your best friend is going to die, but they can't tell you when. 

Then they tell you that they have a solution, kind of...

This solution is to poison the body to near death to save you. Maybe. 

 

I can't imagine being in a more terrible  position. 

Yet here I sit.

 

I didn't see this earlier. Unfortunately I have experience on both sides of that fence. During my chemo for transplant I always told my wife I had the easy job, all I had to do was get the treatment and get better. Then when she got cancer, I found out how hard it really was for her the worrying every day what tomorrow will bring. So gutted for you. Reading stuff like this brings tears to my eyes because I know what you're going through brother.

TM

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4/25/2026 11:14am Edited Date/Time 4/25/2026 7:19pm
SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Is everyone happy?Say one day you get told that your best friend is going to die, but they can't tell you when. Then they tell you that...

Is everyone happy?

Say one day you get told that your best friend is going to die, but they can't tell you when. 

Then they tell you that they have a solution, kind of...

This solution is to poison the body to near death to save you. Maybe. 

 

I can't imagine being in a more terrible  position. 

Yet here I sit.

 

ToolMaker wrote:
I didn't see this earlier. Unfortunately I have experience on both sides of that fence. During my chemo for transplant I always told my wife I...

I didn't see this earlier. Unfortunately I have experience on both sides of that fence. During my chemo for transplant I always told my wife I had the easy job, all I had to do was get the treatment and get better. Then when she got cancer, I found out how hard it really was for her the worrying every day what tomorrow will bring. So gutted for you. Reading stuff like this brings tears to my eyes because I know what you're going through brother.

TM

Glad you’re still with us TM. My oldest son battled cancer for several years . Fortunately it was found out soon enough. 4 surgeries and a round of chemo. He’s been good now for close to 8 years. He’s out riding this morning on his new 450. ❤️

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4/25/2026 12:13pm
Glad you’re still with us TM. My oldest son battled cancer for several years . Fortunately it was found out soon enough. 4 surgeries and a...

Glad you’re still with us TM. My oldest son battled cancer for several years . Fortunately it was found out soon enough. 4 surgeries and a round of chemo. He’s been good now for close to 8 years. He’s out riding this morning on his new 450. ❤️

Thanks, I didn't want to make this about me. Just wanted SMF to know my empathy is not hollow words. And good to hear your son had a good outcome!

TM

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Glad you’re still with us TM. My oldest son battled cancer for several years . Fortunately it was found out soon enough. 4 surgeries and a...

Glad you’re still with us TM. My oldest son battled cancer for several years . Fortunately it was found out soon enough. 4 surgeries and a round of chemo. He’s been good now for close to 8 years. He’s out riding this morning on his new 450. ❤️

ToolMaker wrote:
Thanks, I didn't want to make this about me. Just wanted SMF to know my empathy is not hollow words. And good to hear your son...

Thanks, I didn't want to make this about me. Just wanted SMF to know my empathy is not hollow words. And good to hear your son had a good outcome!

TM

We’re all just talking,….you’re alright BrotherMan.👍🏻

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Glad you’re still with us TM. My oldest son battled cancer for several years . Fortunately it was found out soon enough. 4 surgeries and a...

Glad you’re still with us TM. My oldest son battled cancer for several years . Fortunately it was found out soon enough. 4 surgeries and a round of chemo. He’s been good now for close to 8 years. He’s out riding this morning on his new 450. ❤️

ToolMaker wrote:
Thanks, I didn't want to make this about me. Just wanted SMF to know my empathy is not hollow words. And good to hear your son...

Thanks, I didn't want to make this about me. Just wanted SMF to know my empathy is not hollow words. And good to hear your son had a good outcome!

TM

I certainly didn't take it as hollow,  in fact, it's much appreciated. 

My thoughts are with all you guys, and hope all remains positive. 

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