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All depends how they do it. You could absolutely have them pull off before the leader gets to him. They throw the blue flag to warn the lappers and have them "hold their line".
I guess another option might be a "lapper lane" of some sort on the edge of the track to keep them out of the racing line.
Obviously there is no perfect solution and it will always be a problem.
From now on if you disregard the blue flag or almost kill the leaders you have to get deployed to the Middle East. You can appeal it down to a felony. Deal with it.
It's not just Friese...but it's always Friese. This fkn guy is a menace. That cross jump in front of Eli was one of the stupidest things I have seen in a while. You can't penalize the guy points, it wouldn't matter...he's about as much in the championship as you and I. This clown needs to be fined, be excluded from races or just outright banned. If this is the best he can ride, he has no business being on the track.
I guess I just fundamentally disagree lappers should be part of what determines a race. If the tracks were longer or everyone was on the lead lap would we complain and say we need slower riders so the leaders have to pass through lappers? No.
A lot of it comes down to where you meet them on the track. Like in Race 1 Tomac got held up in the right hander going to the on/off before the finish line that allowed Hunter to get by. Had he met them in the whoops he blitzed right past them. The leaders can’t control where they are going to run into lappers.
I view it as less of a skill and more dumb luck based on where on the track you run into them/ and how/if they yield to the leaders.
I like the 105-107% rule.
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If that's the sacrifice needed to be made to delete Freezer from this sport, I'm all for it.
I’ll take ‘things we already knew for $100 Alex’
They should trial coms only and use Friese as the test subject, you'll find out if it works real quick.
I like Greco's idea. He's a great dude and knows about getting lapped (no disrespect).
I agree with you cannot control where they run into them, but it does add strategy to a battle which is good for fans. I run into the same issue in MTB races and there are times where I can do it better and gain advantage and other times where a rider burns me. The latter sucks, but part of it. I am also not getting paid so there is that. The 80% rule in pro cyclocross and MTB would work, but would have to be different calculations since lap times are only around 1 minute.
As an example for cyclocross, if the leader’s first lap time is 10:00, then 80% of that would be 8:00. Should a rider fall 8:00 behind the leader, they are pulled from the race. There is an official that would black flag the rider. This would eliminate those guys that are way off the pace regardless of their position.
For SX, it could be 6% of the total race time calculated by the leaders first full lap. For example, at Indy being a triple crown, if Roczens first lap was a 48 and the race was 12 minutes, then they would black flag any rider who fell behind 43 seconds or more behind the leader calculated at the start/finish line. There would be a section of the track where an official would black flag the rider and they could safely pull off.
i think the racing would be just fine (better) without this ‘strategy’. I would have rather seen if Hunter could have caught Eli and passed him in race 1 on his race craft annd speed alone. Instead Eli got dogged by lappers for a half a lap and Hunter was basically gifted the pass.
I equate it to referees inserting themselves in a game by making a questionable call on a crucial play. It creates a worse product.
SX is one of the only sports I can think of that’s looks to the past for inspiration and standards rather than looking to improve for the future. Pearl clutchers of all pearl clutchers.
The only thing that saved Eli from a season, or career ending crash was...Eli...cause it sure as hell wasn't Friese. He landed and checked up like a pro when Friese decided to jump left. When you see Eli, he is at the top of the heap regarding professional SX and MX. When you see Friese, you see a confused numb nut that shouldn't even be on the same track as Eli...or the other riders for that matter. I mean, someone actually pays this friggin idiot to show up and ride. He needs to go away.
It's time for the top teams to pool some money together to hire a Tonya Harding type figure, if you catch my drift.
The rule should be (or is, I guess) to hold your line and allow the leaders to go by. Lappers should be penalized if they can't hold their line, continue to race while being lapped, or interfere with the leaders coming by. I don't think a lapper lane is reasonable. The penalty should be bad enough to discourage the offence. Maybe points, maybe a 1 race ban, but probably not money, since it's really not fair to take money away from a privateer.
1:05 in the video. 5 years ago. When it's the same guy over and over, something needs to be done. It's absolutely ridiculous the AMA didn't hand out an impeding penalty. JT himself said something along the lines of "if that ain't it (impeding), I don't know what is"
That being said, the penalty is also a joke. Vince doesn't care about points. It HAS to be a fine. Period. If you can't pay the fine because you're a privateer, then you don't get to race again until you pay it. Harsh? Sure. BUT it's avoidable. That's the whole point.
The video below proves Friese doesn't care. He got lapped by the leader and still thought he had the right to stay in the racing line with the rest of the lead group coming through.
https://youtu.be/ESZC4PHP37Q?t=65&si=khABm-4pp_UkIkUY
Not fair to take money away? It's an avoidable offense. Don't impede the leaders.
Friese may have taken money away from Tomac by a decision he made to stay in the racing line after being lapped by Hunter. He knows what he should do, he just DGAF. He didn't crash and take someone out, he nearly ended Tomacs night and potentially season by making a conscious decision.
Moranz was terrible too.
Top Kawasaki past weekend. Oh dear things are really bad for them right now
Vince wouldn’t get the message if 50,000 people in the stands pointed laser pointers at him………….but might kinda sorta make a statement!
Where’s Jeff Allessi when we need him!
Deegan does worse and Vital loves it.......
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Deegan isnt getting lapped
Paul, outside of like 5 users Vital is a well known Deegan hate camp. Be real.
You get lapped, you exit the track...........Period. theres a race going on and you aint in it
Shimodo speaks for everybody...
https://youtube.com/shorts/pVBw2JlClm8?si=iEqaQzQVzP95LQyt
Lol completely forgot about that! Yet another reason shimoda is the man. Hes the only guy who was banging bars with deegs too.
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