MXGP Rumours/Silly season

rym wrote:

i'm not talking about   teams with staff. i'm talking about privateers who do a couple of gp's. Again i think Infront should pay. But where are...

i'm not talking about   teams with staff. i'm talking about privateers who do a couple of gp's. 

Again i think Infront should pay. But where are the industry brands and local sponsors putting money up so these guys do more GPs?  

Rocketship wrote:

In perspective doing a season of Dutch Nationals, Dutch Masters and 1 round of MXGP / MX OPEN set you back €60.000 Euro's and I'm talking...

In perspective doing a season of Dutch Nationals, Dutch Masters and 1 round of MXGP / MX OPEN set you back €60.000 Euro's and I'm talking 450 class now, 250 class today without heavy tuning is similar, but who's riding a stocker in the top 10? So you can add €20,000 for the ''feeder'' class.

It obviously depends on where you are located and the standards you have, but the bare minimum you need to attend a GP and cover all costs is €2.500 approximately. More realistically is between €3.500 and €4.500 depending on the distance.

It's such a time consuming thing that a friend who can wrench for free isn't always there. If you do A GP in Sweden / Finland it costs you 8 / 10 days of bike prep, travel and the actual racing at minimum. Barely no one can take off and work for free like that

Cortami79 wrote:

+ if we keep the focus on being from the Netherlands as an example. One of those examples is Karssemakers. Legit rider with potential to break...

+ if we keep the focus on being from the Netherlands as an example. One of those examples is Karssemakers. Legit rider with potential to break into the 10 occasionally. He actually proved this quite some times, but what does he gain from this while doing these results as a privateer? In the AMA series, we have a few sattelite/privateer teams picking up these kind of talents, trying to develop them into consistent top 10 riders and top 5, until a team like PC, Star or any other factory team picks them up. He now has the opportunity to prove himself once more via Dixon Kawi, one of the last remaining private teams in the paddock. And IF he has a breakthrough year, what team would pick him? He is getting closer to the ridiculous age rule.

McAdoo is a prime example of that path. In Europe, he would have stranded after two years of GPs and his dream would be gone. Now he got the opportunity via MotoConcepts, rode his way into factory teams and has a great earning career in the 250 class. Mind that he is now 28 years old. He would be out of the MX2 class for 5 years now. How many riders equally as talented as McAdoo have we seen being forced to the AMA series (Anstie), or worse, thrown into the wolves in the MXGP class > back to a privateer team > Europe GP's only and ultimately choose the path of doing a few National races, a few GPs or go to the French Beach racing championship? 

Don't get me wrong Rym, I understand why you're wondering about this and how you explain your question, but my opinion is that a lot of riders and the people that financially support them don't see the benefit of doing a few GP's. The leap to get your rider into a team that does the full calendar is way too big. It's already difficult for an EMX125/250 top 3 contender to find a spot, imagine being a privateer. 

The age rule killed this, along with doing 5-6 fly away races.

rym wrote:

i'm not talking about   teams with staff. i'm talking about privateers who do a couple of gp's. Again i think Infront should pay. But where are...

i'm not talking about   teams with staff. i'm talking about privateers who do a couple of gp's. 

Again i think Infront should pay. But where are the industry brands and local sponsors putting money up so these guys do more GPs?  

Rocketship wrote:

In perspective doing a season of Dutch Nationals, Dutch Masters and 1 round of MXGP / MX OPEN set you back €60.000 Euro's and I'm talking...

In perspective doing a season of Dutch Nationals, Dutch Masters and 1 round of MXGP / MX OPEN set you back €60.000 Euro's and I'm talking 450 class now, 250 class today without heavy tuning is similar, but who's riding a stocker in the top 10? So you can add €20,000 for the ''feeder'' class.

It obviously depends on where you are located and the standards you have, but the bare minimum you need to attend a GP and cover all costs is €2.500 approximately. More realistically is between €3.500 and €4.500 depending on the distance.

It's such a time consuming thing that a friend who can wrench for free isn't always there. If you do A GP in Sweden / Finland it costs you 8 / 10 days of bike prep, travel and the actual racing at minimum. Barely no one can take off and work for free like that

Cortami79 wrote:

+ if we keep the focus on being from the Netherlands as an example. One of those examples is Karssemakers. Legit rider with potential to break...

+ if we keep the focus on being from the Netherlands as an example. One of those examples is Karssemakers. Legit rider with potential to break into the 10 occasionally. He actually proved this quite some times, but what does he gain from this while doing these results as a privateer? In the AMA series, we have a few sattelite/privateer teams picking up these kind of talents, trying to develop them into consistent top 10 riders and top 5, until a team like PC, Star or any other factory team picks them up. He now has the opportunity to prove himself once more via Dixon Kawi, one of the last remaining private teams in the paddock. And IF he has a breakthrough year, what team would pick him? He is getting closer to the ridiculous age rule.

McAdoo is a prime example of that path. In Europe, he would have stranded after two years of GPs and his dream would be gone. Now he got the opportunity via MotoConcepts, rode his way into factory teams and has a great earning career in the 250 class. Mind that he is now 28 years old. He would be out of the MX2 class for 5 years now. How many riders equally as talented as McAdoo have we seen being forced to the AMA series (Anstie), or worse, thrown into the wolves in the MXGP class > back to a privateer team > Europe GP's only and ultimately choose the path of doing a few National races, a few GPs or go to the French Beach racing championship? 

Don't get me wrong Rym, I understand why you're wondering about this and how you explain your question, but my opinion is that a lot of riders and the people that financially support them don't see the benefit of doing a few GP's. The leap to get your rider into a team that does the full calendar is way too big. It's already difficult for an EMX125/250 top 3 contender to find a spot, imagine being a privateer. 

The age rule killed this, along with doing 5-6 fly away races.

Rocketship wrote:

In perspective doing a season of Dutch Nationals, Dutch Masters and 1 round of MXGP / MX OPEN set you back €60.000 Euro's and I'm talking...

In perspective doing a season of Dutch Nationals, Dutch Masters and 1 round of MXGP / MX OPEN set you back €60.000 Euro's and I'm talking 450 class now, 250 class today without heavy tuning is similar, but who's riding a stocker in the top 10? So you can add €20,000 for the ''feeder'' class.

It obviously depends on where you are located and the standards you have, but the bare minimum you need to attend a GP and cover all costs is €2.500 approximately. More realistically is between €3.500 and €4.500 depending on the distance.

It's such a time consuming thing that a friend who can wrench for free isn't always there. If you do A GP in Sweden / Finland it costs you 8 / 10 days of bike prep, travel and the actual racing at minimum. Barely no one can take off and work for free like that

Cortami79 wrote:

+ if we keep the focus on being from the Netherlands as an example. One of those examples is Karssemakers. Legit rider with potential to break...

+ if we keep the focus on being from the Netherlands as an example. One of those examples is Karssemakers. Legit rider with potential to break into the 10 occasionally. He actually proved this quite some times, but what does he gain from this while doing these results as a privateer? In the AMA series, we have a few sattelite/privateer teams picking up these kind of talents, trying to develop them into consistent top 10 riders and top 5, until a team like PC, Star or any other factory team picks them up. He now has the opportunity to prove himself once more via Dixon Kawi, one of the last remaining private teams in the paddock. And IF he has a breakthrough year, what team would pick him? He is getting closer to the ridiculous age rule.

McAdoo is a prime example of that path. In Europe, he would have stranded after two years of GPs and his dream would be gone. Now he got the opportunity via MotoConcepts, rode his way into factory teams and has a great earning career in the 250 class. Mind that he is now 28 years old. He would be out of the MX2 class for 5 years now. How many riders equally as talented as McAdoo have we seen being forced to the AMA series (Anstie), or worse, thrown into the wolves in the MXGP class > back to a privateer team > Europe GP's only and ultimately choose the path of doing a few National races, a few GPs or go to the French Beach racing championship? 

Don't get me wrong Rym, I understand why you're wondering about this and how you explain your question, but my opinion is that a lot of riders and the people that financially support them don't see the benefit of doing a few GP's. The leap to get your rider into a team that does the full calendar is way too big. It's already difficult for an EMX125/250 top 3 contender to find a spot, imagine being a privateer. 

The age rule killed this, along with doing 5-6 fly away races.

rym wrote:

Thanks Cortami. Maybe i am more pointing at the symptons while you are more pointing at the cause. The cause being there is no benefit in...

Thanks Cortami. Maybe i am more pointing at the symptons while you are more pointing at the cause. The cause being there is no benefit in doing GPs for these guys. I guess that's also what is why i started asking these questions: i feel there is a much bigger issue then 'just' infront not paying some purse money.

rym wrote:

i'm not talking about   teams with staff. i'm talking about privateers who do a couple of gp's. Again i think Infront should pay. But where are...

i'm not talking about   teams with staff. i'm talking about privateers who do a couple of gp's. 

Again i think Infront should pay. But where are the industry brands and local sponsors putting money up so these guys do more GPs?  

Rocketship wrote:

In perspective doing a season of Dutch Nationals, Dutch Masters and 1 round of MXGP / MX OPEN set you back €60.000 Euro's and I'm talking...

In perspective doing a season of Dutch Nationals, Dutch Masters and 1 round of MXGP / MX OPEN set you back €60.000 Euro's and I'm talking 450 class now, 250 class today without heavy tuning is similar, but who's riding a stocker in the top 10? So you can add €20,000 for the ''feeder'' class.

It obviously depends on where you are located and the standards you have, but the bare minimum you need to attend a GP and cover all costs is €2.500 approximately. More realistically is between €3.500 and €4.500 depending on the distance.

It's such a time consuming thing that a friend who can wrench for free isn't always there. If you do A GP in Sweden / Finland it costs you 8 / 10 days of bike prep, travel and the actual racing at minimum. Barely no one can take off and work for free like that

Cortami79 wrote:

+ if we keep the focus on being from the Netherlands as an example. One of those examples is Karssemakers. Legit rider with potential to break...

+ if we keep the focus on being from the Netherlands as an example. One of those examples is Karssemakers. Legit rider with potential to break into the 10 occasionally. He actually proved this quite some times, but what does he gain from this while doing these results as a privateer? In the AMA series, we have a few sattelite/privateer teams picking up these kind of talents, trying to develop them into consistent top 10 riders and top 5, until a team like PC, Star or any other factory team picks them up. He now has the opportunity to prove himself once more via Dixon Kawi, one of the last remaining private teams in the paddock. And IF he has a breakthrough year, what team would pick him? He is getting closer to the ridiculous age rule.

McAdoo is a prime example of that path. In Europe, he would have stranded after two years of GPs and his dream would be gone. Now he got the opportunity via MotoConcepts, rode his way into factory teams and has a great earning career in the 250 class. Mind that he is now 28 years old. He would be out of the MX2 class for 5 years now. How many riders equally as talented as McAdoo have we seen being forced to the AMA series (Anstie), or worse, thrown into the wolves in the MXGP class > back to a privateer team > Europe GP's only and ultimately choose the path of doing a few National races, a few GPs or go to the French Beach racing championship? 

Don't get me wrong Rym, I understand why you're wondering about this and how you explain your question, but my opinion is that a lot of riders and the people that financially support them don't see the benefit of doing a few GP's. The leap to get your rider into a team that does the full calendar is way too big. It's already difficult for an EMX125/250 top 3 contender to find a spot, imagine being a privateer. 

The age rule killed this, along with doing 5-6 fly away races.

Rocketship wrote:

In perspective doing a season of Dutch Nationals, Dutch Masters and 1 round of MXGP / MX OPEN set you back €60.000 Euro's and I'm talking...

In perspective doing a season of Dutch Nationals, Dutch Masters and 1 round of MXGP / MX OPEN set you back €60.000 Euro's and I'm talking 450 class now, 250 class today without heavy tuning is similar, but who's riding a stocker in the top 10? So you can add €20,000 for the ''feeder'' class.

It obviously depends on where you are located and the standards you have, but the bare minimum you need to attend a GP and cover all costs is €2.500 approximately. More realistically is between €3.500 and €4.500 depending on the distance.

It's such a time consuming thing that a friend who can wrench for free isn't always there. If you do A GP in Sweden / Finland it costs you 8 / 10 days of bike prep, travel and the actual racing at minimum. Barely no one can take off and work for free like that

Cortami79 wrote:

+ if we keep the focus on being from the Netherlands as an example. One of those examples is Karssemakers. Legit rider with potential to break...

+ if we keep the focus on being from the Netherlands as an example. One of those examples is Karssemakers. Legit rider with potential to break into the 10 occasionally. He actually proved this quite some times, but what does he gain from this while doing these results as a privateer? In the AMA series, we have a few sattelite/privateer teams picking up these kind of talents, trying to develop them into consistent top 10 riders and top 5, until a team like PC, Star or any other factory team picks them up. He now has the opportunity to prove himself once more via Dixon Kawi, one of the last remaining private teams in the paddock. And IF he has a breakthrough year, what team would pick him? He is getting closer to the ridiculous age rule.

McAdoo is a prime example of that path. In Europe, he would have stranded after two years of GPs and his dream would be gone. Now he got the opportunity via MotoConcepts, rode his way into factory teams and has a great earning career in the 250 class. Mind that he is now 28 years old. He would be out of the MX2 class for 5 years now. How many riders equally as talented as McAdoo have we seen being forced to the AMA series (Anstie), or worse, thrown into the wolves in the MXGP class > back to a privateer team > Europe GP's only and ultimately choose the path of doing a few National races, a few GPs or go to the French Beach racing championship? 

Don't get me wrong Rym, I understand why you're wondering about this and how you explain your question, but my opinion is that a lot of riders and the people that financially support them don't see the benefit of doing a few GP's. The leap to get your rider into a team that does the full calendar is way too big. It's already difficult for an EMX125/250 top 3 contender to find a spot, imagine being a privateer. 

The age rule killed this, along with doing 5-6 fly away races.

kevinconnor wrote:

5-6 fly away races?  I thought there were 4. Are you counting Turkey and Finland ( not on the calendar this year).

Cortami79 wrote:

+ if we keep the focus on being from the Netherlands as an example. One of those examples is Karssemakers. Legit rider with potential to break...

+ if we keep the focus on being from the Netherlands as an example. One of those examples is Karssemakers. Legit rider with potential to break into the 10 occasionally. He actually proved this quite some times, but what does he gain from this while doing these results as a privateer? In the AMA series, we have a few sattelite/privateer teams picking up these kind of talents, trying to develop them into consistent top 10 riders and top 5, until a team like PC, Star or any other factory team picks them up. He now has the opportunity to prove himself once more via Dixon Kawi, one of the last remaining private teams in the paddock. And IF he has a breakthrough year, what team would pick him? He is getting closer to the ridiculous age rule.

McAdoo is a prime example of that path. In Europe, he would have stranded after two years of GPs and his dream would be gone. Now he got the opportunity via MotoConcepts, rode his way into factory teams and has a great earning career in the 250 class. Mind that he is now 28 years old. He would be out of the MX2 class for 5 years now. How many riders equally as talented as McAdoo have we seen being forced to the AMA series (Anstie), or worse, thrown into the wolves in the MXGP class > back to a privateer team > Europe GP's only and ultimately choose the path of doing a few National races, a few GPs or go to the French Beach racing championship? 

Don't get me wrong Rym, I understand why you're wondering about this and how you explain your question, but my opinion is that a lot of riders and the people that financially support them don't see the benefit of doing a few GP's. The leap to get your rider into a team that does the full calendar is way too big. It's already difficult for an EMX125/250 top 3 contender to find a spot, imagine being a privateer. 

The age rule killed this, along with doing 5-6 fly away races.

kevinconnor wrote:

5-6 fly away races?  I thought there were 4. Are you counting Turkey and Finland ( not on the calendar this year).

koval_731 wrote:

1. Argentina2. Matterley Basin (non eu and a pain to travel there)3. Johannesburg south africa ( i hope there are some white people left when the...

1. Argentina

2. Matterley Basin (non eu and a pain to travel there)

3. Johannesburg south africa ( i hope there are some white people left when the event is hold on the 09 july

4. Then is turkey

5. China

6. Australia

kevinconnor wrote:

5-6 fly away races?  I thought there were 4. Are you counting Turkey and Finland ( not on the calendar this year).

koval_731 wrote:

1. Argentina2. Matterley Basin (non eu and a pain to travel there)3. Johannesburg south africa ( i hope there are some white people left when the...

1. Argentina

2. Matterley Basin (non eu and a pain to travel there)

3. Johannesburg south africa ( i hope there are some white people left when the event is hold on the 09 july

4. Then is turkey

5. China

6. Australia

kevinconnor wrote:

Counting Matterly is a stretch. It's a pain to get to Unadilla and Southwick too

koval_731 wrote:

The reason matterley is on that list is simply you can not drive there.Or isn't that the case - fly over races aka races you can...

The reason matterley is on that list is simply you can not drive there.

Or isn't that the case - fly over races aka races you can not drive your truck over

koval_731 wrote:

1. Argentina2. Matterley Basin (non eu and a pain to travel there)3. Johannesburg south africa ( i hope there are some white people left when the...

1. Argentina

2. Matterley Basin (non eu and a pain to travel there)

3. Johannesburg south africa ( i hope there are some white people left when the event is hold on the 09 july

4. Then is turkey

5. China

6. Australia

kevinconnor wrote:

Counting Matterly is a stretch. It's a pain to get to Unadilla and Southwick too

koval_731 wrote:

The reason matterley is on that list is simply you can not drive there.Or isn't that the case - fly over races aka races you can...

The reason matterley is on that list is simply you can not drive there.

Or isn't that the case - fly over races aka races you can not drive your truck over

koval_731 wrote:

The reason matterley is on that list is simply you can not drive there.Or isn't that the case - fly over races aka races you can...

The reason matterley is on that list is simply you can not drive there.

Or isn't that the case - fly over races aka races you can not drive your truck over

koval_731 wrote:

The reason matterley is on that list is simply you can not drive there.Or isn't that the case - fly over races aka races you can...

The reason matterley is on that list is simply you can not drive there.

Or isn't that the case - fly over races aka races you can not drive your truck over

ksithumper wrote:

Dude, there is a tunnel...

Cortami79 wrote:

+ if we keep the focus on being from the Netherlands as an example. One of those examples is Karssemakers. Legit rider with potential to break...

+ if we keep the focus on being from the Netherlands as an example. One of those examples is Karssemakers. Legit rider with potential to break into the 10 occasionally. He actually proved this quite some times, but what does he gain from this while doing these results as a privateer? In the AMA series, we have a few sattelite/privateer teams picking up these kind of talents, trying to develop them into consistent top 10 riders and top 5, until a team like PC, Star or any other factory team picks them up. He now has the opportunity to prove himself once more via Dixon Kawi, one of the last remaining private teams in the paddock. And IF he has a breakthrough year, what team would pick him? He is getting closer to the ridiculous age rule.

McAdoo is a prime example of that path. In Europe, he would have stranded after two years of GPs and his dream would be gone. Now he got the opportunity via MotoConcepts, rode his way into factory teams and has a great earning career in the 250 class. Mind that he is now 28 years old. He would be out of the MX2 class for 5 years now. How many riders equally as talented as McAdoo have we seen being forced to the AMA series (Anstie), or worse, thrown into the wolves in the MXGP class > back to a privateer team > Europe GP's only and ultimately choose the path of doing a few National races, a few GPs or go to the French Beach racing championship? 

Don't get me wrong Rym, I understand why you're wondering about this and how you explain your question, but my opinion is that a lot of riders and the people that financially support them don't see the benefit of doing a few GP's. The leap to get your rider into a team that does the full calendar is way too big. It's already difficult for an EMX125/250 top 3 contender to find a spot, imagine being a privateer. 

The age rule killed this, along with doing 5-6 fly away races.

rym wrote:

Thanks Cortami. Maybe i am more pointing at the symptons while you are more pointing at the cause. The cause being there is no benefit in...

Thanks Cortami. Maybe i am more pointing at the symptons while you are more pointing at the cause. The cause being there is no benefit in doing GPs for these guys. I guess that's also what is why i started asking these questions: i feel there is a much bigger issue then 'just' infront not paying some purse money.

Cortami79 wrote:

I think it's a combination of Infront their descisions and other championships within Europe making it very attractive for these riders to join their races instead...

I think it's a combination of Infront their descisions and other championships within Europe making it very attractive for these riders to join their races instead of GP's. Jbone19, NVA57, PhilG and almost everyone else agree in this conversation that it get's less attractive to attend these GP's as a privateer (unless you're a rider like Pancar, who gets support from his personal sponsor). 

Take for example Harri Kullas. Decent GP rider, even broke into some top 10s in outdoors last two years. He earned more riding a small Supercross race in the Netherlands (Goes) then he ever will do if he get's two top 20 moto's in the GP's. Winning the final made him 1000 EUR, winning his heat race series made him 800 EUR. Add some start money and that night made him around 2000 EUR. 

Now imagine Cornelius Toendel going to the muddy Agueda back in 2024. A few sponsors and his privateer team help him out with expenses and bike parts. He get's into 12th moto 1 and has an exceptional ride to 3th in moto 2. We all know how much he made, zero. How much that would given him in AMA Nationals, I have no idea because after some Google search I coulnd't find the exact numbers (unbelievable), but at least he could have covered his expenses and he would have received some extra money via his manufacturer with contingency

 

THE mx addict wrote:

US model (AMA SX and MX championships) actually works with no age limit and with prize money. This is the way InFront should go! But everybody...

US model (AMA SX and MX championships) actually works with no age limit and with prize money. This is the way InFront should go! But everybody knows they don't want to.

rym wrote:

Its obvious that Infront has a big part in this, but a question i have is where are the industry brands and local supporters in all...

Its obvious that Infront has a big part in this, but a question i have is where are the industry brands and local supporters in all this? 

When you are a fast rider who is fast in the ADAC/French/Dutch/British championship you will have a decent setup to train and have bikes and stuff. Otherwise you cannot be competitive in such a championship. So the karssemakers, Gwerders, Soulimanis, etc last year.

How much would it really cost to add a number of GPs to your budget. Not doing all the GPs and overseas etc, but doing the 6 or 8 GPs closest to your home. So you take two of your bikes, your campervan, dad or a friend to help and drive to the GP nearest to you. Whats it? Entry fee, travel costs, some spare parts usage, tyres, racefuel. What is that 1500 euro? 2000 euro? That's 15k to do 8 GPs? There is no value for gearcompanies, parts brands, local sponsors etc in GPs for 5 companies to step up and sponor a couple of grand? 

 
 

themrtoad wrote:

Marc Antoine Rossi is parting ways with Maddi Honda according to Gatedrop. Bike too slow? Other reasons?

koval_731 wrote:

There is a ship to finland and you call it a pain to get to. Have you ever used the tunnel? I have (it is not a...

There is a ship to finland and you call it a pain to get to. 

Have you ever used the tunnel? I have (it is not a drive thru tunnel if you are not accustomed to the idea what that particular tunnel stands for)

Or the ferry to england, cause i have done that aswell.

I have done all the european rounds including the russian one on 2019 as a mechanic. The toughest place to "drive to" from belgium was matterley. Rest where juat time consuming drives across highways in europe

ohh_454 wrote:

Honda HRC doesn’t have an energy drink sponsor and Herlings and RedBull aren’t together, why is that? I would’ve thought Jeffrey would’ve had a personal deal...

Honda HRC doesn’t have an energy drink sponsor and Herlings and RedBull aren’t together, why is that? I would’ve thought Jeffrey would’ve had a personal deal with RedBull for all these years and would’ve carried that over to Honda since they don’t have an energy drink deal, kinda weird. 

MBR wrote:

Sometimes things change 🤐

ohh_454 wrote:

Honda HRC doesn’t have an energy drink sponsor and Herlings and RedBull aren’t together, why is that? I would’ve thought Jeffrey would’ve had a personal deal...

Honda HRC doesn’t have an energy drink sponsor and Herlings and RedBull aren’t together, why is that? I would’ve thought Jeffrey would’ve had a personal deal with RedBull for all these years and would’ve carried that over to Honda since they don’t have an energy drink deal, kinda weird. 

MBR wrote:

Sometimes things change 🤐

MBR wrote:

This is what I was referring to.

This is what I was referring to.

koval_731 wrote:

There is a ship to finland and you call it a pain to get to. Have you ever used the tunnel? I have (it is not a...

There is a ship to finland and you call it a pain to get to. 

Have you ever used the tunnel? I have (it is not a drive thru tunnel if you are not accustomed to the idea what that particular tunnel stands for)

Or the ferry to england, cause i have done that aswell.

I have done all the european rounds including the russian one on 2019 as a mechanic. The toughest place to "drive to" from belgium was matterley. Rest where juat time consuming drives across highways in europe

philG wrote:

Its that much of  pain, Hawkstone is Cancelled, so we are looking going to Le Touquet. 3 hrs  to the boat, 90 mins crossing, 35 mins to...

Its that much of  pain, Hawkstone is Cancelled, so we are looking going to Le Touquet. 

3 hrs  to the boat, 90 mins crossing, 35 mins to Le Touquet. 

MBR wrote:

Sometimes things change 🤐

MBR wrote:

This is what I was referring to.

This is what I was referring to.

Amsterdamned wrote:

Please say this is not true.

themrtoad wrote:

Marc Antoine Rossi is parting ways with Maddi Honda according to Gatedrop. Bike too slow? Other reasons?

Rocketship wrote:

Good question, doesn’t seem easy to work with him. The article speaks about a French replacement. I can only can think of Grau or Prugnieres.

rym wrote:

So what will Prugnieres do?

edit: and is this the end for WZ?

Cortami79 wrote:

Seems like after all, InFront will stick to 19 GPs instead of 20. Calendar update shows that the GP at 26th of April is cancelled.

Cortami79 wrote:

Seems like after all, InFront will stick to 19 GPs instead of 20. Calendar update shows that the GP at 26th of April is cancelled.

Snapper wrote:

And this creates an unusual gap in the calendar. In the past, two consecutive weekends off were rare, and now there's four between April 19 and...

And this creates an unusual gap in the calendar. In the past, two consecutive weekends off were rare, and now there's four between April 19 and May 24. 

Cortami79 wrote:

Seems like after all, InFront will stick to 19 GPs instead of 20. Calendar update shows that the GP at 26th of April is cancelled.

Snapper wrote:

And this creates an unusual gap in the calendar. In the past, two consecutive weekends off were rare, and now there's four between April 19 and...

And this creates an unusual gap in the calendar. In the past, two consecutive weekends off were rare, and now there's four between April 19 and May 24. 

DeStouwer wrote:

It would've been 3 weekends off already without the cancelled GP anyway. More time for some riders to race at international races or national championships. Unfortunately...

It would've been 3 weekends off already without the cancelled GP anyway. More time for some riders to race at international races or national championships. Unfortunately SX is still going on, if there were some Nationals planned on those weekends, it would've been an opportunity.