Andrew Short PanicRev Video

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chip600 12/16/2010 10:31am
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TPT...now you know. Here's a quick tip about how forums work. When you reply to the topic that you don't like, it bumps it back up...
TPT...now you know.

Here's a quick tip about how forums work. When you reply to the topic that you don't like, it bumps it back up to the top. Amazing, huh? And when you post about how you don't like it, and it shouldn't be here, other people see that and respond. Which also bumps it back up to the top.

While you may not be a fan of religion, I think everyone has the right to worship (or not) in the way that they choose. I also think it's generally better to keep your mouth shut in situations like this...you know, just so you don't come across as intolerant.
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FIREfish148 12/16/2010 10:38am
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zookrider62! wrote:
dont click on the thread then, pretty simple really
TeamPropainTurbo38t wrote:
Don't label it"PanicRev" then.....label it JesusChristCyclers video or somethin...
Don't label it"PanicRev" then.....label it JesusChristCyclers video or somethin...
zookrider62! wrote:
anyone who follows the sport knows that panicrev is a christian organization, follow the sport better and you wont be so easily offended
I didnt know that panic rev was a christian organization. I follow it pretty damn close i would think.
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CrashMaster 12/16/2010 10:40am
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TeamPropainTurbo38t wrote:
Don't label it"PanicRev" then.....label it JesusChristCyclers video or somethin...
Don't label it"PanicRev" then.....label it JesusChristCyclers video or somethin...
Ddavis wrote:
A bigger man will own up to his beliefs/keep his mouth shut, rather than talk poorly about someone else's beliefs.
TeamPropainTurbo38t wrote:
Ok, valid point, then the religous ones should be humble and quiet about their beliefs as well, no?I don't preach that I despise religion on here...
Ok, valid point, then the religous ones should be humble and quiet about their beliefs as well, no?I don't preach that I despise religion on here, I did however basically say(maybe in a more aggressive manner) what you said in that the bigger man should keep his mouth shut about his beliefs....let's not get hypocritical here now. Turbo
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Faceaz 12/16/2010 11:12am
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Thank you for posting. Two men who will speak the truth about their relationship with God. What a better world it would be if everyone would...
Thank you for posting. Two men who will speak the truth about their relationship with God. What a better world it would be if everyone would seek a relationship with Him. Thank you Andrew and Trey.

joshy83, He might not make you as fast but He will help you do great things!
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scooter5002 12/16/2010 11:28am
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I thought I followed the sport and I'd never even heard of PanicRev before so I clicked on it expecting to see something wild on two wheels. The Christ thing intro made me realize I wasn't going to get that. Not a bad video. I don't have a problem with someone espousing their beliefs (good or bad) on religion but again, I've never even seen this PanicRev even mentioned on Vital before, so I was a little surprised. Guess I would kind of side with the "label it differently" view but the nature of the content doesn't offend me. So does that make me bad? Intolerance is the root of a lot of evil in this world.
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TeamPropainTurbo38t wrote:
Don't label it"PanicRev" then.....label it JesusChristCyclers video or somethin...
Don't label it"PanicRev" then.....label it JesusChristCyclers video or somethin...
Ddavis wrote:
A bigger man will own up to his beliefs/keep his mouth shut, rather than talk poorly about someone else's beliefs.
TeamPropainTurbo38t wrote:
Ok, valid point, then the religous ones should be humble and quiet about their beliefs as well, no?I don't preach that I despise religion on here...
Ok, valid point, then the religous ones should be humble and quiet about their beliefs as well, no?I don't preach that I despise religion on here, I did however basically say(maybe in a more aggressive manner) what you said in that the bigger man should keep his mouth shut about his beliefs....let's not get hypocritical here now. Turbo
you clicked on a video from a christian organization, the video started out with its all about jesus, then you continued to watch. You then asked for it to be banished to the dumbgeoun even though the video had very little to do with faith/christianity, and you dont believe you preach. Insane.
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cool_hand 12/16/2010 12:55pm
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Canard, Short, and Dungey are all pretty much open Christian believers, and bad ass on a bike.

If Jesus irritates you,..maybe theres some truth there....
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sxf138 12/16/2010 1:55pm
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Ddavis wrote:
A bigger man will own up to his beliefs/keep his mouth shut, rather than talk poorly about someone else's beliefs.
Thank You...
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ImTheDude 12/16/2010 1:59pm
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Once I saw Jesus I had to stop the video.

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DBerg 12/16/2010 2:54pm
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This is why I hate so many non-religious people. They see the word "God" or "Jesus" and immediately get into attack mode. It's called freedom of speech, and of course you guys have the right to say what you want as well, but people might take you more seriously if you can do so in a dignified and respectful manner. The editor of this video expresses his beliefs without bashing on non-religious people, and because of that is more credible than you religion haters on here. Unfortunately there are so many non-religious people that act that way and the reason I find that so annoying is because I'm not religious and don't believe in any kind of deity, and your ignorant remarks reflects on more than just you but also people that share the same beliefs (in a general sense of course). In other words, you make non-religious people look bad and therefore fail at standing up for what you believe in.

On another note... nice vid. Short is looking really good. I sure hope he can pull off that elusive win, and especially against the stacked field that we should have this 2011 season. I'm sure a win is nice any way you look at it, but it's gotta be a little extra sweet if you can pull it off against JS, RD, RV, CP, and CR. Good luck AS29!
Wadded_Up 12/16/2010 3:54pm
12/16/2010 3:54pm
Go Andrew..........I hope your wingman (JC) is with you this year and you hit that podium hard!
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fader418 12/16/2010 3:59pm
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Now I understand why Scott dont post on here more often......
iudi2006 12/16/2010 4:13pm
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I don't understand why people get so freaked out and offensive about a video inviting them to go to a Christmas bash with Andrew Short. Yes, it is in a christian church but nowhere in that video did i see anyone saying," BECOME A CHRISTIAN or YOUR GOING TO HELL" or any of that. Calm down people.
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jimmie 12/16/2010 4:33pm
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Andrew is quite the ambassador.

Very cool!
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40Plus_922mx 12/16/2010 4:43pm
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Any intelligent conscience person should ponder in his/her own brain many things about the mystery of life and our existence. The result should be a serious inquisition into answers to those questions. It boils down to TRUTH people. And it's up to YOU to collect the evidence and make your choice.

In our society we are so distracted by things, and the mirror that all to often we don't even contemplate life eternity etc. Or we form an opinion that we get from a the media, a friend, or some other non educated source. Only you can account for you. So people should take these things seriously.
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Shawn142 12/16/2010 4:55pm
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40Plus_922mx wrote:
Any intelligent conscience person should ponder in his/her own brain many things about the mystery of life and our existence. The result should be a serious...
Any intelligent conscience person should ponder in his/her own brain many things about the mystery of life and our existence. The result should be a serious inquisition into answers to those questions. It boils down to TRUTH people. And it's up to YOU to collect the evidence and make your choice.

In our society we are so distracted by things, and the mirror that all to often we don't even contemplate life eternity etc. Or we form an opinion that we get from a the media, a friend, or some other non educated source. Only you can account for you. So people should take these things seriously.
This was a video with a dude riding a motorcycle right? I watched it with the sound way down and it didn't offend me one way or the other.
iudi2006 12/16/2010 5:09pm
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40Plus_922mx wrote:
Any intelligent conscience person should ponder in his/her own brain many things about the mystery of life and our existence. The result should be a serious...
Any intelligent conscience person should ponder in his/her own brain many things about the mystery of life and our existence. The result should be a serious inquisition into answers to those questions. It boils down to TRUTH people. And it's up to YOU to collect the evidence and make your choice.

In our society we are so distracted by things, and the mirror that all to often we don't even contemplate life eternity etc. Or we form an opinion that we get from a the media, a friend, or some other non educated source. Only you can account for you. So people should take these things seriously.
Shawn142 wrote:
This was a video with a dude riding a motorcycle right? I watched it with the sound way down and it didn't offend me one way...
This was a video with a dude riding a motorcycle right? I watched it with the sound way down and it didn't offend me one way or the other.
Most of the video is Short on the track then he says he's going to be at the PanicRev church on Sunday and is inviting everyone who is interested to come. Your right, i don't see how it's offending.
BikeGraphixKC 12/16/2010 5:26pm
12/16/2010 5:26pm
just out of curiosity do you always use ghey songs in the video's? No pun intended but, I could do without lyrics in general, kinda like Cudby's films.

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Sparkalounger 12/16/2010 5:28pm
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BikeGraphixKC wrote:
just out of curiosity do you always use ghey songs in the video's? No pun intended but, I could do without lyrics in general, kinda like...
just out of curiosity do you always use ghey songs in the video's? No pun intended but, I could do without lyrics in general, kinda like Cudby's films.
really? grow up DJ
keeptwostrokesalive 12/16/2010 5:28pm
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I think it is awesome that short and trey are open about their beliefs. It shows that there are more of us in this commuinity. Its just like mxersforjesus. If raced alot more than i do now i would joing mxersforjesus.
Antipodean 12/16/2010 6:10pm
12/16/2010 6:10pm
And so this is Christmas. Come on guys, lets cut each other a little slack.

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PressPassP 12/16/2010 6:17pm
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scooter5002 wrote:
I thought I followed the sport and I'd never even heard of PanicRev before so I clicked on it expecting to see something wild on two...
I thought I followed the sport and I'd never even heard of PanicRev before so I clicked on it expecting to see something wild on two wheels. The Christ thing intro made me realize I wasn't going to get that. Not a bad video. I don't have a problem with someone espousing their beliefs (good or bad) on religion but again, I've never even seen this PanicRev even mentioned on Vital before, so I was a little surprised. Guess I would kind of side with the "label it differently" view but the nature of the content doesn't offend me. So does that make me bad? Intolerance is the root of a lot of evil in this world.
I also hadn't heard of "PanicRev" being connected to a form of religious organisation,again I would go along with labelling this differently too as can all too easily bring together people with quite opposing views resulting in consequences that aren't needed.

I am Atheist myself and stopped the video as soon as I realised it was about something I don't believe in,it was only after seeing a couple of posts that I carried on,then posted as others have.I could get all negative and feel I've clicked onto a potentially amusing link only to find it is actually something that I disagree with and then go venting off in anger but I won't as it doesn't get us anywhere,indeed I've owned up to my own beliefs (that some will dismiss) but won't talk poorly of others (that I shall dismiss) as it's pretty obvious that it goes round in circles

In all, Religion in whichever shape or form is a very sensitive subject as has always been the case and will no doubt carry on being so in the future,so in another instance it would surely be wise to forewarn people of the content of a topic if it has previously caused conflict or had the potential to do so,indeed I would do if I was starting something likewise
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Billy Jack 12/16/2010 9:22pm
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To all you assholes who don't believe...well, to stop the video because you don't believe is just plain stupid. It shows your bias. In fact all the ranting in this thread shows your bias. It's a motocross video stupid butts...if you can't see that and look beyond "religion" then you have personal issues and need to sort them out. I don't need to imagine no heaven or hell...that's just stuff of dreamers...
Antipodean 12/16/2010 9:54pm
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Billy Jack wrote:
To all you assholes who don't believe...well, to stop the video because you don't believe is just plain stupid. It shows your bias. In fact all...
To all you assholes who don't believe...well, to stop the video because you don't believe is just plain stupid. It shows your bias. In fact all the ranting in this thread shows your bias. It's a motocross video stupid butts...if you can't see that and look beyond "religion" then you have personal issues and need to sort them out. I don't need to imagine no heaven or hell...that's just stuff of dreamers...
Billy Jack, I gather by your reference to John Lennon's wonderful song about hope, peace and love, that you're including me in your rant. If so, please be aware that you don't know me and that you should not judge me, or anyone else for that matter. How does that Biblical phrase go; "Judge not lest you be judged", or something like that.

As for Andrew Short, and Trey Canard for that matter; I am on record as being a fan, not only of their riding but also of their conduct.

Remember, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone", or something like that - love those Python guys.



I truly hope you have a Holy Christmas.

Kindest regards,
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bearded clam 12/16/2010 10:09pm
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Billy Jack wrote:
To all you assholes who don't believe...well, to stop the video because you don't believe is just plain stupid. It shows your bias. In fact all...
To all you assholes who don't believe...well, to stop the video because you don't believe is just plain stupid. It shows your bias. In fact all the ranting in this thread shows your bias. It's a motocross video stupid butts...if you can't see that and look beyond "religion" then you have personal issues and need to sort them out. I don't need to imagine no heaven or hell...that's just stuff of dreamers...
i dont beleive and maby an asshole...actually for sure but I watched the whole vid. I was thinking to myself though...ok motocross...that I can see and beleive in but where is God, he dosnt seem to come by when I need him??
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Billy Jack 12/16/2010 10:14pm
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Billy Jack wrote:
To all you assholes who don't believe...well, to stop the video because you don't believe is just plain stupid. It shows your bias. In fact all...
To all you assholes who don't believe...well, to stop the video because you don't believe is just plain stupid. It shows your bias. In fact all the ranting in this thread shows your bias. It's a motocross video stupid butts...if you can't see that and look beyond "religion" then you have personal issues and need to sort them out. I don't need to imagine no heaven or hell...that's just stuff of dreamers...
Antipodean wrote:
Billy Jack, I gather by your reference to John Lennon's wonderful song about hope, peace and love, that you're including me in your rant. If so...
Billy Jack, I gather by your reference to John Lennon's wonderful song about hope, peace and love, that you're including me in your rant. If so, please be aware that you don't know me and that you should not judge me, or anyone else for that matter. How does that Biblical phrase go; "Judge not lest you be judged", or something like that.

As for Andrew Short, and Trey Canard for that matter; I am on record as being a fan, not only of their riding but also of their conduct.

Remember, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone", or something like that - love those Python guys.



I truly hope you have a Holy Christmas.

Kindest regards,
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BKoonts 12/16/2010 10:34pm
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Billy Jack wrote:
To all you assholes who don't believe...well, to stop the video because you don't believe is just plain stupid. It shows your bias. In fact all...
To all you assholes who don't believe...well, to stop the video because you don't believe is just plain stupid. It shows your bias. In fact all the ranting in this thread shows your bias. It's a motocross video stupid butts...if you can't see that and look beyond "religion" then you have personal issues and need to sort them out. I don't need to imagine no heaven or hell...that's just stuff of dreamers...
bearded clam wrote:
i dont beleive and maby an asshole...actually for sure but I watched the whole vid. I was thinking to myself though...ok motocross...that I can see and...
i dont beleive and maby an asshole...actually for sure but I watched the whole vid. I was thinking to myself though...ok motocross...that I can see and beleive in but where is God, he dosnt seem to come by when I need him??
I do not know you but this is just my opinion. Perhaps you should seek the Lord during the times that you don't need him. That has worked beautifully for me. Again, to each his own and I really hope that everyone stops fighting about this because it's not the intended purpose of the video in the first place. Let's all get along and if there's gonna be fighting, let it be about whether Dungey is faster than Stewart :-)

p.s. I too am a huge fan of the bearded clam. See, we have something in common already.
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bearded clam 12/16/2010 10:51pm
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Billy Jack wrote:
To all you assholes who don't believe...well, to stop the video because you don't believe is just plain stupid. It shows your bias. In fact all...
To all you assholes who don't believe...well, to stop the video because you don't believe is just plain stupid. It shows your bias. In fact all the ranting in this thread shows your bias. It's a motocross video stupid butts...if you can't see that and look beyond "religion" then you have personal issues and need to sort them out. I don't need to imagine no heaven or hell...that's just stuff of dreamers...
bearded clam wrote:
i dont beleive and maby an asshole...actually for sure but I watched the whole vid. I was thinking to myself though...ok motocross...that I can see and...
i dont beleive and maby an asshole...actually for sure but I watched the whole vid. I was thinking to myself though...ok motocross...that I can see and beleive in but where is God, he dosnt seem to come by when I need him??
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I do not know you but this is just my opinion. Perhaps you should seek the Lord during the times that you [i]don't [/i]need him. That...
I do not know you but this is just my opinion. Perhaps you should seek the Lord during the times that you don't need him. That has worked beautifully for me. Again, to each his own and I really hope that everyone stops fighting about this because it's not the intended purpose of the video in the first place. Let's all get along and if there's gonna be fighting, let it be about whether Dungey is faster than Stewart :-)

p.s. I too am a huge fan of the bearded clam. See, we have something in common already.
no one fightin here haha...just wish the man would stop by and say hi like my bike does haha
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Ddavis 12/16/2010 10:58pm
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If you don't believe in Jesus, then you don't believe in Jesus. We aren't getting mad at you, were just saying that if you don't "approve" then don't even bother saying anything. Turn off the computer and go outside if it's that big of an issue for you.
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bearded clam 12/16/2010 11:17pm
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Ddavis wrote:
If you don't believe in Jesus, then you don't believe in Jesus. We aren't getting mad at you, were just saying that if you don't "approve"...
If you don't believe in Jesus, then you don't believe in Jesus. We aren't getting mad at you, were just saying that if you don't "approve" then don't even bother saying anything. Turn off the computer and go outside if it's that big of an issue for you.
im an artist, im chillin by the computer painting n replying to this thread...no big issue.
I actually wish I was outside...in a tropical country...with a hot local...w a beer in both hands...belly full of fresh fish...beers...couple more beers...you know where Im going. The best I got though is a hard days grind, your guys humor n riding when I can LOL!!

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