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You ever consider that Leftism in America is vastly overrepresented online versus real life because leftists are far more likely to be unemployed, on benefits or a paid agitator? There are a lot more leftists that have someone else paying the bills compared to a conservative working-class person.
This gives leftists tons of free time to sit around on the Internet. While more conservative people are much more likely to be out there working, raising kids, going to church etc. I think this is a thing.
Just like Antifa is overwhelmingly young unemployed white dudes living with their parents with nothing better to do, while a right-wing demonstrator probably actually has some type of job.
Leftists are over-represented in right wing media in order to create a boogeyman to be afraid of.
Leftists are also astroturfed and funded by monied interests to be controlled opposition.
Laziness isn't political.
This thread combined with your "nobody will date me because i'm MAGA" thread are a pretty funny combo.
If that is what your feed is full of (and you believe it) - seek help.
At face value leftism isn't over-represented in the media, its more that the right wing media is under-represented. This is a large reason why trump was trying to pull all funding for PBS an NPR which was is obviously left leaning. Government shouldn't be in the business of funding media empires, especially ones that are shockingly and in-your-face partisan.
Historically the left wing has a strong and ongoing association with academia. Academics go on to run and control media companies and news outlets, not working class Americans, because they work real jobs.
However, both political parties in America have the same goal which is to completely control the lives of the American people and how to exploit as much wealth and profit out of us as possible. The only difference is the means in which they use to reach that goal and which demographic they appear to support.
@SoCalMX70 Laziness is most definitely political. When you have a social welfare state that creates dependency and rewards laziness, then those lazy and dependent people are most certainly going to vote for candidates who will continue to provide their means to be lazy and dependent people. That's very much political
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Social media drives the click bait obsession, and younger people in general are on social media more and tend to lean left (since pretty much all academia are liberal that is all the hear in school).
The people that just watch "the news" (no matter what station) aren't commenting, liking, sharing, etc it on social media because its just a TV station. These tend to be the over 30 crowd who are not active on social media (like me, I don't do social media at all).
So though there may be some truth to the unemployed part (young people are more likely to be unemployed), I think it is more the social media generation that live for likes and followers.
I have said this before on here, but my employees (around 45 total at any given time, almost all female between 17-25) used to be 80/20% hardcore liberals vs conservative around 2020. And we never hire the blue hair, nose ring type (the Starbucks model employee) but they almost all were liberal back then.
Now it is probably 90/10% conservative vs liberal. So there is hope for the future....
I think of it this way.
About half the people I deal with lean right.
The other half lean left.
About 5% of the people I deal with are extreme one way or the other. Meaning most people just want to work it out and get shit done.
The culture war is manufactured by the institutions we should all be united in fighting.
The extremes are both over represented. It's extremist boogeymen on both sides being thrown in your face through all forms of media while anyone out in the real world every day know it isn't typical.
I'll agree on your perception of laziness... I just don't agree that it only applies to "leftists" (as OP implies). I believe you'd find liberals and conservatives about equally participating in government social programs.
Just curious... Do you know anyone in the 5% group who are completely mellow in person, never bring up politics, but are political rage monsters online?
I know a couple of those on and it's fuckin weird. 🤣
I do! And agreed, it’s weird.
Well, now you've done it.
I’m enjoying the INSTANTANEOUS button-smashers that’re proving that you’re right.
🤣
This whole 'leftists are online because they don’t work' take is lazy thinking at best, which is sort of ironic isn't it? I work 50–65 hours a week, vote across the aisle (usually a 3rd party for President, though), and still manage to be here a fair bit. So either I’m a mythological creature (I'm not), or that narrative is just wrong.
Everyone is online. Both sides are loud. Algorithms boost conflict, not employment status. And calling people lazy because you don’t like their politics isn’t analysis, it’s deflection.
Argue the ideas. The rest is just noise.
True.
Out here where we're out here working, and getting shit done, rarely does anyone bring up politics.
It's great fun to come here though, and push the buttons of the ones who sit here all day posting.
😎
So the 'instantaneous button smashers' (too lazy to type in caps) beat your response to the punch, and that’s supposed to prove they don’t work? Which took longer, their button smash or your posting a response?
That’s an interesting way to read a clock.
😉
That's very interesting. Since I live in California, I know a lot of sexually-free people, mainly bisexual females. The last few I have talked to are right-leaning. It's fascinating. It's more about issues like illegal immigration than what bathroom they can use. There is very little political similarity between this supposed LGBTQ voting block than people think. They go widely across the political spectrum. In fact I had to explain to one of my bi female friends what LGBTQ even stands for. The idea they are a single voting block or ideological block is completely off-base. They have widespread beliefs like anybody
How many true leftists do you guys think you run into when you go about your daily life? 10%, 50%, 75%, 0%?
The people I associate with are usually right leaning. Have several friends that very much dislike Trump though. Nobody gets butt hurt during discussion though as we typically bounce the topics quite fast. Someone may say something that triggers a new subject and away we go. This place seems to have some people that let other people's opinion ruin their day. Maybe it's because a thread stays on topic till people get called out? Maybe it's because they spend so much effort to change someone's mind about something. Don't know, don't care, but it's more fun to talk to someone with different view points. And from what I can tell, there's no lack of different view points. This is also the only board I get involved in political stuff. But to the topic at hand, it feels like there's a lot more left agenda online vs real world.
TM
Aren't red states on federal welfare more than blue states?
https://www.milkenreview.org/articles/red-state-blue-state?IssueID=57
There's always been radicals on both sides but they were largely seen as such by the more moderate people who otherwise agreed with them. The radicals existed but the grown ups still dominated the important conversations.
Two things have changed. Social media being able to use algorithms to create rage and division for the sake of profit is the first and most obvious. Most recognize this is happening even though they still let it happen to them.
The other thing that has changed is that both sides used to have some unifying principled beliefs and now very few people do. A moral code based on essentially objective Christian ethics has been replaced by moral relativism. It's only wrong to suppress free speech when my side is suppressed. Political violence is only wrong when my side is victimized. Malicious prosecution is only wrong when it's done to my side. So instead of the moderates viewing the radicals as going too far and violating these shared beliefs as they did in the past, the radicals are now celebrated. I've complained about supposed moderate Muslims doing this with terrorists but most politically engaged people in the US are now no better. Neither side ever condemns their own because they're happy to gain another inch in the culture war even if that little gain was made in ways that everyone would have agreed was wrong a generation or two ago.
So until we regain some common moral code all of these fights are just going to turn into literal power struggles. Liberals made gains because they were the first to go all in on moral relativism. If the right and their gun safes full of long guns and ammo and redneck ingenuity ever embrace the moral code to the same extent the left has its going to end with a lot of bloodshed.
Pit Row
My Far left wife...
I went online to get my real i.d.
Its greyed out , you cant get in anywhere.
She cries out its a conspiracy so we cant get real i.d.'s and thus Can't Vote !!
Its all part of the plan !!
So i call the bloated state of Illinois help line , call is answered in 2 min.
The appointment schedules are greyed out but at 6:30 am will be blue and active for the day. Awesome.
I set my alarm for 6:25 am
And sure enough at 6:30 am they are refreshed and blue.
But they do nothing when yiu click on them. OK
I call the state again this time it takes 10 min on hold and they come on and say what's up..
It doesn't work.its blue but nothing.
Where do you want to get yiur real id. ?
Town X 6 miles from me..
OK they have a 9:40 , Ill take it.
Boom done in less then 24 hours I have my real i.d.
( a hurdle or two , but done )
Sky not falling...
Between work, neighbors, and the group I/we sit around campfires with, there's a wide variety professions, (public and private sector) income levels and political beliefs.
Nobody really discusses politics.
No MAGA hats, yard signs, or obnoxious bumper stickers.
The last campfire debate centered around the glut of cheap ass IPA's in the beer aisles.
Right? We typically talk about fun stuff. I don't have enough time with my friends that when both our schedules allow us to spend time together we want to waste that time talking politics.
Having said that, you start thinking about how all these mostly younger people, get influenced with fake news and it's pretty easy to conclude there's more left influence online, main stream media, and in the school system. 5 years ago, most college kids believed that the number of unarmed black men shot by police was over 1,000, when the real number was closer to 10? And you wonder why that is. But it's all kinds of narratives. Hell, you go on the r/popular on reddit and if you post something remotely conservative you'll have thousands of derogatory things posted about you. Net result is it's all lefty narrative.
TM
The reddit 2.0 style of replies around here are off the chart hilarious.
"Same people" takes on an entirely different meaning now.
Ideas on the right: lower taxes, less regulation, secure border, safe cities, know what a women is, drill baby drill, energy independence, no dei, deport illegals, no electric car mandate, strong military, peace through strength, etc. What are the ideas that define the left?
Considering your recent history of being put in time out multiple times, you may want to consider yourself as being one whose buttons are easily pushed 😂
That’s a list of slogans, not a list of ideas.
'Drill baby drill', 'know what a woman is', and 'peace through strength' aren’t policies, they’re bumper stickers. Catchy? Maybe. But they don’t actually answer how you govern, balance budgets, manage tradeoffs, or deal with next level effects. They’re shortcuts. And honestly, kind of a lazy way to frame something that’s very complicated.
If you’re genuinely asking what defines the left, they'd probably list things like:
Expanding healthcare access
Protecting labor rights
Infrastructure investment
Environmental protection
Consumer protections
Antitrust enforcement
Voting access
Public education funding
You (or I) don’t have to like any of that. We can disagree all day, that’s fine. But pretending there are no ideas just because you don’t like them is, well, convenient but also being less than honest.
And it’s the same pattern as the 'leftists don’t work' thing. Dismiss/accuse first, analyze later, ignore any real analysis if it doesn't align with your preconceived notions. Or, more likely, skip the analysis altogether. It saves time, I guess. It just doesn’t save you or anyone else from being wrong.
Yeah, it's not the lack of ideas on the left that scare me, it's their actual ideas.
Just think about some of the things they've gotten through in the past. Affirmative action legalized, assault weapons ban, hate speech laws, tax the the rich (aka anyone with slightly above average income) epa regulations that add expense and rob power from vehicles and limit what manufacturers can make, Healthcare reform that did nothing but increase everyone's insurance cost, criminal justice reform that's gotten rid of bail and made it possible for people to be arrested hundreds of times before they randomly stab someone on the street, redefining what a woman is and destroying title IX protections for actual women, bloated welfare programs that ask nothing of those receiving benefits, no questions asked abortion at any stage...... liberals have plenty of ideas....
One day you might wake up and realize it’s the Jewish media manipulating you.
I can’t stand the goofy left either. The right has gotten just as bad the other way.
If you pay attention. All these white liberals (men and women) that get interviewed on tv and say white men are the problem are usually Jewish. If Epstein didn’t wake the boomers up nothing will.
Where do you get your news? Why is the younger generations new CB fake and yours not?
You work 50-65 a week, and post 40 hours a week on Vital. Do you ever sleep?
Democrat ideas sound great until you realize how they want to achieve them.
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