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Same shit at Loretta’s. I was thinking of going to mini o’s next year but after reading this I’m gonna save the $ and go somewhere else with less aggravation
Club sports dont come close to what it costs to race as an amateur at a high level. I race +40A and I support a kid who races 250C and schoolboy. On weeks that we just ride twice our "all in" costs are around $300. Our closest practice track is an hour away. On local race weekends it's $300-$400. AMA District races that we can drive to its $400-$800 for the weekend. District races that we have to get a hotel $600-$1000+. Two day races (Awful 8 for example)/Loretta Qualifiers $1000+. Loretta/Mini Os/Texas Spring races $3000-$8000+. Add the costs of at least 2 bikes a year, suspension, parts, race gas, tires, gear, etc its very easy to spend $50k in a year to be at a similar commitment level of a club travel baseball player.
Plus those sports can lead to a path of college scholarships. Our sport leads you to a path of dropping out, I mean home schooling
Yep, in the 90s when I raced there were very few double header weekend events. Now most race weekends are a two day event with a Friday practice. More money grabbing from the promoter but if you want to be successful you feel obligated to be there for a three day weekend
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It was fun to experience the event, especially since I have seen it since I was little.
My advice, get there late so you have to park way in the back. Walk vendor row and concessions stands early. They run about 7 SX motos an hour so try your best to time your staging, but youll likely still be waiting 45 mins+. Stay off the pit roads after your moto and stay in your pit, otherwise youll be trying to avoid an accident at every bend. And when you go to stagging if you have a 50 rider take headphones and jam to music or sit way back in the shade with your kid so you dont have to listen to every dad discuss their training regime. We went on PW, so only up from here, cuz pw parents the worst.
I’d like to double down. I think ML should charge to post on this site due to tariffs. If you have nothing to do with the industry you have to pay monthly to post. Content is free, but if you want your opinion heard you need to pay a subscription to advertise it. 🤷🏾♀️ before you get mad just know AI told me this is the best resolution.
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Run…just…run.
Can’t the tariff on outdoor activities is at an all time high. Time to spend more time with the group on here.
Yeah, I dunno. I'm just relaying what someone who is on the team stated the reason for the pull out was. I thought it might be a bit more relevant to the topic than children's flag football or field hockey rants.
This was no direct comment to you or anyone in particular. Just a lot of bullshit on here to weed through to find some real or even relevant info.
Oh, you were quoting my post so I assumed you were responding to me.
No sorry that’s my fault. I can see where the confusion came from. I’m horrible with form manners and half the time I don’t even follow up on shit.
Well if anyone can get companies to come together for a team AND he also works really close with Club MX right now....its this guy.
Hopefully the staff n riders continue to get paid. Well the riders that have a salary…
The difference is, Chad Reed was selling himself to sponsors, not 5-10th place 250 guys.
I will say, Muc Off did a damn good job establishing themself as a moto brand.
When I think of Muc Off I think of moto. Pink bike wash? Muc Off.
I’m sad to see them go, and hope they come back one day.
I bought one of their soft wash brushes a while back and it’s my favorite to use when washing the bike. I’ll try to buy their stuff more often.
Going off the top of my head, I think most anodizing is a Type 2 per MIL-8625. I used to have to deal with this a lot in a past life. Alkaline cleaners like Simple Green will dull the color and eventually remove the protective oxidation but if the manufacture specifies duplex sealing with a nickel acetate seal it will hold up a long time.
Type 3 hard anodizing is another level, and while any alkaline solution will eventually cause harm it would take a very long time.
Outside of any factory team I am having a hard time thinking of a team who gets better results or perhaps has better social media exposure then Clubmx. Their Youtube videos the past few years have been next level.
I would think this is but a set back and another major sponsor can be had. Surely Muc-Off was not a major source of their gross income that they are in trouble race team wise???
Pit Row
That brings up an interesting question. Who is the most successful team without factory backing? Been lots of KTM teams, too many for me to keep track of. ClubMX has clearly gotten podiums. MotoConcepts has a 450 SX win under their belt, Daytona no less.
Pro Circuit?
muc-off is overpriced woke hype juice. they can eabod. the guy made a good natured rap joke and they cut bait on the entire team and ran.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/muc-off-withdraws-commencal-21-sponsorship-and-insists-amaury-pierron-take-course-after-racial-stereotyping.html
We completely oppose any and all forms of racial stereotyping, and we have taken direct action with the teams involved. Due to where the post originated, we have decided to cancel our sponsorship contract with Commencal 21. In addition, we have agreed with the Commencal/Muc-Off team that Amaury will undertake an education programme on the subject, which we have insisted is paid for using our sponsorship money.
Love the thumbs down on this. Idk why people hate Chad. Just like they said he would clash with club yet here he is helping train riders there currently.
My ski boots $900
My jacket 700
Pants 500
Most good ski goggles are 200+.
Moto gear is crazy cheap in comparison.
$500 helmet, $400 neck brace, $500 knee braces, $500 boots, $200 pants/jersey $150 goggles, $100 chest protector and disregard the $10k motorcycle, fuel, maintenance, other consumables and entry fees to ride... think moto is generally more expensive than most sports but I know everyone wants to claim their sport is more expensive, strenuous and prestigeous. I digress.
I don’t mean this to be offensive, but if your kid/the kid you support is racing the c class, why are you even going to amateur nationals and Loretta Lynn qualifiers? Yes moto is insane expensive but you’re really just throwing your time and money away at traveling to big races like that unless the kid is something special. But maybe you just go to those races cuz you like to, which is fine. It’s your money.
Personally I would just ride and race locally. It’s still expensive, but a little less so. When the kid is absolutely destroying everyone every weekend in the amateur class, only then it might be worth doing those big am races.
If you play on a top tier travel baseball/softball/hockey team that plays multiple fly away tournaments, attends multiple “nationals” and/or PG, Silver Sticks type tournaments, you are in that $50k area.
Friendly fire is not okay...😁
PC is factory backed, as is STAR and HEP Suzuki. GEICO Honda, TLD, and JGR were too when they were still around. ClubMX and many others are essentially just dudes buying bikes and through internal development and the aftermarket industry trying to make them competitive with the factory.
I'm sure the factory throws them a bone here and there. I think some might even get to lease factory ECUs.
You aren’t saying club is buying bikes right?
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