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Nice job having Chat GPT generate a riders union 😂
I use the AI here and there to generate and tweak workout programs and the format and fire emojis and green checks they also use the same way.
I don't care about this.
If there were a button I could push that would stop all pro racing forever but also ensure that local racing and small tracks would be better and would never close.
I would smash it without a thought
You said nothing about sustainability which comes from places to ride. I dont see how this sport could continue when the tracks all close. How are you going to sell bike when there is no where to ride them?
My name is Gene , I utilize AI technology to assist me in various duties. Raced as a contracted Suzuki athlete from 1996 - early 2000’s collecting 15 championships &. 10 concussions , shattered my face in 16 places. Treated my TBI’s successfully & cultivated the understanding of how to treat the symptoms of post TBI life
Life after racing , I developed 3 dozen websites, 2 digital education courses utilizing automated Crm software , designed branding for many orgs , owned & operated guided segway tours with a fleet of 24 machines for 16 yrs guiding & training 3-5 k tourist per season , was an officer at my Masonic lodge No:725 , still coach motocross , build motocross tracks, a music therapist & wellness retreat owner / operator
Every time I see a bitch-fest start about the people running the series, I think the same thing. You're free to start your own series anytime.
I'm sure they'll find that it's no problem at all getting manufacturers & individual track owners onboard. They'll also find out how easy it is to set up all of the online registration, ticket sales & broadcast schedules.
Once they get it up and running, they can let all 150 pro riders in for free & pay $20k for 15th place.
Looking forward to the new schedule from the next big motocross promoters.
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It looks to me like You are trying to sell good bullshit fertilizer to the people that buy the food.
explain why you think motocross athletes don’t deserve equal respect the NFL , MLB etc gets
Our job is just as demanding and dangerous , and even more expensive to participate .. It’s not about complaining about the current promoters, it’s about navigating the relationship of the riders being able to work fairly with the manufacturers and promoters.
Every time someone compares moto to other professional sports I think of the infographics that relate the size of earth to other planets, stars, solar systems, etc.
If the world worked on what people deserve, good teachers would make 10 times what a pro sports athlete makes.
Life is about what someone is worth. What they can produce.
Why should a top finisher from loretta's be owed a living wage when they turn pro?
What does a rider consistently finishing in the bottom 25% of mx/sx really bring to the table?
What bargining power do they have?
I get the disliking AI bit, but other than that, I don’t understand why the general vibe in here seems to be unsupportive of riders having more say?
Posted it on a Facebook group and the support there is immense !
Unionization and athlete organization do not extract wealth — they generate it.
They professionalize the sport and expand its marketability.
Motocross now sits at the exact point where:
• MLB was in the 1960s
• NFL was in the 1970s
• UFC was in the 2000s
Every time, the outcome was higher pay, longer careers, and a stronger sport.
Must be more bosses than workers in here.
Hey, I’m sorry if my tone seemed dismissive, I didn’t mean it that way. I really do want to encourage you and others to do your own investigation into this thing; just like the issue of organized labor, there are a lot of pros and cons to AI, but it’s not going anywhere so the sooner you get some kind of understanding of it, the better.
Of course there was
They dont have any skin in the game.
you are like a politician offering $50/hour minimum wage, a 30 hour work week. Free cars, free housing, and free healthcare.
Maybe your little ai helper can come up with some helpful details on how you are going to make it work.
Like:
Leverage you have at your disposal
How all this gets paid for
Why any top riders making multiple millions a year would even answer your calls.
Insread all you post is theory and unicorn daydreams that is like reading a congressional bill.
Good luck
Fair enough to stick to motocross.
Why can riders (and even marshalls) have extensive medical coverage from their federations in other countries but US riders are left in the cold relying on GoFundMe campaigns to pay huge hospital bills?
Wouldn't that be a good thing for the sport and for the riders to change that?
Liability insurance for tracks owners and race organizers, personal accident insurance, ambulance cost covered (up to 10k), lump sums in case of death (75k), permanent disability (100k), paraplegia (150k)...
Other riders have all this and more, is that bad if someone wants US riders to have this kind of benefits as well?
Funny , I figured most motocross fans would understand the concept of lead , follow or get out of the way ! Unless you have been a contracted athlete, does what you propose hold any real weight?! No ..
at least try to be good at following , so far ur just in the way !
We only need 30% of the riders to be on board to be recognized by federal labor laws , won’t matter what the top riders or promoters or manufacturers would like to do, we will politely enforce this , just like when other sports organized …
Cool. How much are the riders' union dues? And where do they go?
ChatGPT answer coming soon......
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Exactly this. You just proved your own point wrong.
So let me ask you this, let’s do it like your ai bullet points but from my phone with shit grammar.
-What one of any of the top 20 riders are going to sit out races and join you to start a movement?
-What riders are going to pay for a union when they’re not making shit already.
-Why are you soo aggressive when people are giving their opinions on here?
-Why did you post it on here if “you aren’t a factory contracted rider you can’t say shit to me.”
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Should have just opened this for discussion rather than diluting it with bullshit AI and took advice, if any was given.
The more you post in here the more I see where it won’t work.
This is all VERY GOOD 💇♂️👩🦯➡️🦋🍷 in theory. But the more you spew the less I see it working.
I think all the riders out there would like a union even those at the top. But, you’re going to have to come in with more money than the promoter and more incentives to get them to do ANYTHING to piss of their employer.
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Just my non contracted un educated view on all this that no one asked for.
You can’t even sell a t shirt in the pits let’s start with the basics.
*unless that has changed, then I’m an asshole.
Nope. Let’s start at the top. And let’s back pay all the riders that deserve it starting 1995 with Monopoly money.
Cool. I’m a MxGPT fan.
Lots of inadequacies to be addressed ! Good point you made
The Bicycle Union: How Professional Cyclists Organized
The Primary Riders Union: CPA (Cyclistes Professionnels Associés)
The most important and recognized union in professional cycling is:
CPA – Cyclistes Professionnels Associés
(Association of Professional Cyclists)
Founded: 1999
Recognized by: UCI (Union Cycliste Internationale)
Represents: Professional road cyclists worldwide
Acts as: Official riders’ labor union
Why it was formed
Through the 1980s and 1990s, professional cyclists faced:
No guaranteed minimum salary
Unsafe race conditions
Lack of medical protection
No say in race scheduling
No formal grievance process
Unpaid prize money and contract violations
Unlike team sports, cyclists were:
Nominally “independent contractors”
Employed by teams but governed by race organizers and UCI
Often exploited in a fragmented, high-risk system
Several high-profile crashes, doping-era abuses, and career-destroying injuries pushed riders to demand collective protection.
The CPA was created to:
Negotiate minimum salary standards
Improve race safety protocols
Create unified representation in UCI decisions
Protect riders’ rights in contracts
Ensure insurance, pensions, and welfare protections
Key Milestones in CPA Formation
1. Early Informal Rider Movements (1960s–1990s)
Cyclists began organizing informally after:
Fatal race incidents
Unsafe downhill finishes
Long unpaid periods
Exploitative prize contracts
Riders occasionally staged:
Silent protests
Rolling strikes
Refusal to start stages
But there was no permanent structure.
2. Formal Creation in 1999
The CPA was formally recognized by the UCI as the official riders’ representative body.
This gave cyclists:
A seat at the negotiating table
The ability to block unsafe race routes
Input on rule changes
Standardized labor agreements
What the CPA Achieved
Safety & Working Conditions
Rider approval required for dangerous stages
Mandatory medical care protocols
Neutral safety commissions
Improved crash barriers and course design standards
Economic Protections
Minimum salary requirements
Standardized contracts
Payment enforcement mechanisms
Prize money security
Governance Power
Voting representation within UCI commissions
Consultation rights on calendar structure
Rider input on concussion protocols
Lolz
I appreciate what you’re doing, @stull33 . Keep fighting the good fight, and don’t let the naysayers get you down.
So can chat EBT of yours figure out how to make it work when it couldn’t in the past. Someone told you they tried to but they would have their license revoked. So if Ama pulls this on anyone else just trying to “live their dream” who aren’t going to make a real career then how will you find someone who matters to support you.
Like I stated already. Love the idea. Everyone does. But the series has a stronghold on the riders. They have more money and resources than you do. Ask Trey. Ask reed.
-actually just ask chat EBT the probability of it happening?
Sorry to piss on your parade. Santa isn’t real 🍾🚬🏎️👩🦯➡️🦋💯💴💶
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