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Blake 11/11/2010 6:47pm
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Shoulda trumped the world and went F1.

At least Wardy went Indy car.
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DiIullo 11/11/2010 7:16pm
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mid/back of the pack at best in F1... no slam on him it's just that good there.

nascar is tougher to run up front then IRL....
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Hank_Thrill 11/11/2010 7:23pm
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Can't wait to see Travis crash the shit out of some cars!
BornA'Lil2Slow 11/11/2010 8:37pm
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Can't wait to see Travis crash the shit out of some cars!
isnt that why everyone watches nascar? lol j/k

travis is a wet dream for nascar! he is marketing gold!

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Headly 11/12/2010 2:13am
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BornA'Lil2Slow wrote:
isnt that why everyone watches nascar? lol j/k

travis is a wet dream for nascar! he is marketing gold!

'Twas a wet dream for RallyCar too! They still have a great batch of drivers (and co-drivers) over there but TP199 was HUGE for the sport. I, personally, think this sucks. Over it now, carry on...


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Dirtydane 11/12/2010 3:45am
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Never been into Nascar, but maybe now i will. Anyway Good Luck TP199!
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ImTheDude 11/12/2010 4:01am
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zzzzzzzzzzz for both Nascar and the new vid.
zzzzzzzzzzzzz.
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Hanaa80 11/12/2010 4:29am
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Formula1 is all about how good car you have. How about NASCAR? Does a really good driver even have a chance to win in a mid-level car?

Personally I think this deal sucks, but for Pastrana it seems like a good retirement plan. He doesn't have to punish his body anymore.
Moto East Mag 11/12/2010 7:09am
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I hope those drivers are ready for Travis. You know he's gonna be crazy out there.
Unleashing Travis behind the wheel of a 600 horsepower beast is going to result in some kind of mayhem....
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Crash82 11/12/2010 8:23am
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Nascar pretty much kicks ass, the sport of MX isn't exactly thriving. The truth hurts, but whoever is running MX(anyone know?) better wake up. I hope TP sticks with it, if you think 200mph 3 wide is boring.....
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Mini Elsinore 11/12/2010 10:28am
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"Part-owner." This won't end well financially.
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factoryJEFF 11/12/2010 1:01pm
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308 wrote:
any word on what his number will be?
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199 Duh!

haha idk if they have a 3 digit rule
no 3 digits however WaltripRacing owns the 99 car. That would be my bet if i had to take a stab at it
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i am gonna start stock piling junk metal, i see a huge demand for light iron on the horizon...
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he will be the next kyle bush!
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Madmax31 11/13/2010 6:07am
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I can't stand nascar crap but do have several friends that love it. What is funny is they all hate RC. They say he sucks, is given the best equipment and still can only muster a top 10 on the faster wide open tracks. They aren't into MX so is pisses them off that an outsider gets one of the best rides and "can't do shit with it". Anyway I hope TP can come in and put some good finishes in to get them off my back!!
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RaceFace 11/13/2010 6:55am
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He bought his way into a second-rate ride with a partner who's teetering on going tits up. He's racing all of 7 races in a 33...
He bought his way into a second-rate ride with a partner who's teetering on going tits up.

He's racing all of 7 races in a 33 race series in the feeder-league.

Don't get so excited guys. You could have pulled off the same deal if you were willing to part with a few million and had DC shoes and Red Bull tagging along. BTW, word is, Red Bull will not be part of the package on the Nationwide car itself.

Good for Travis, but get the facts before you get all giddy. It's 7 races in the "B" league.
I guess you can downplay it, but to me going straight to that "B" League is HUGE. In my opinion it is also a HUGE mistake. He doesn't have the experience to be out there with those guys. The NASCAR guys right now respect RC because he is going it the way most will, with a smart plan and gaining the needed experience. They are going to be scared to death to be near TP and he is going to wreck some of them week in and out. This type of racing requires nothing but focus and patience, which it seems Travis has neither of. This "B" League regularly has Sprint Cup drivers amongst the entries so it is not lame at all. When you look and see that RC is still toiling away for several years now with the intent of earning a spot in the Nationwide series, it seems totally ludicrous that TP is just going to show up and race for the 1st time against these guys with his rally car titles. Rally racing does not do much to prepare you for racing stock cars.
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Shawn142 11/13/2010 7:31am
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mid/back of the pack at best in F1... no slam on him it's just that good there.

nascar is tougher to run up front then IRL....
Seriously? Why don't we just put him in MotoGP while we're at it an talk about how competitive he'd be. Yes he was a good MXer, yes against other Americans he was a somewhat decent rally racer, but don't kid yourself. Even in one of the best cars he'd be further off pace of the leader than the 3 new teams are already.

BTW, Jeff Ward didn't go to IRL, he raced Indy Lites. Yes he did well in the Indy 500 but that was generally his only appearance in the premier class.

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RaceFace 11/13/2010 7:53am
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DiIullo wrote:
mid/back of the pack at best in F1... no slam on him it's just that good there.

nascar is tougher to run up front then IRL....
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Seriously? Why don't we just put him in MotoGP while we're at it an talk about how competitive he'd be. Yes he was a good MXer...
Seriously? Why don't we just put him in MotoGP while we're at it an talk about how competitive he'd be. Yes he was a good MXer, yes against other Americans he was a somewhat decent rally racer, but don't kid yourself. Even in one of the best cars he'd be further off pace of the leader than the 3 new teams are already.

BTW, Jeff Ward didn't go to IRL, he raced Indy Lites. Yes he did well in the Indy 500 but that was generally his only appearance in the premier class.
Not to mention, Ward was at it for years the same way RC is doing it. Wouldn't just about any of us be able to hop in a rally car and drive it proficiently? I'm not saying do anywhere near as well as TP has, but look like we have an idea of what we're doing and have some skills. Think any of us can just as easily race in the Nationwide series and seem equally proficient? I went to a race RC did in CT a few years back. It was a half mile track with very little banking where the top speed is only(!?) about 100mph. The speed at which stuff happened though was unreal. Reaction time is almost nill, and that was only at 100mph. The margin for error is so small.... Rally racing is like MX, you can miss your line and roll through the banners and continue on. In NASCAR you don't roll throught the banners. Missing your line by 6 inches sends you into the wall or into the guy on your left, race over. I will watch when he races, but I really doubt we'll see him qualify at any of those 7 races. If he does, I hope he just finishes and doesn't wrech anyone else. Many drivers will be questioning him being out there.
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Mikep147 11/13/2010 8:19am
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RACEGUY wrote:
He bought his way into a second-rate ride with a partner who's teetering on going tits up. He's racing all of 7 races in a 33...
He bought his way into a second-rate ride with a partner who's teetering on going tits up.

He's racing all of 7 races in a 33 race series in the feeder-league.

Don't get so excited guys. You could have pulled off the same deal if you were willing to part with a few million and had DC shoes and Red Bull tagging along. BTW, word is, Red Bull will not be part of the package on the Nationwide car itself.

Good for Travis, but get the facts before you get all giddy. It's 7 races in the "B" league.
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I guess you can downplay it, but to me going straight to that "B" League is HUGE. In my opinion it is also a HUGE mistake...
I guess you can downplay it, but to me going straight to that "B" League is HUGE. In my opinion it is also a HUGE mistake. He doesn't have the experience to be out there with those guys. The NASCAR guys right now respect RC because he is going it the way most will, with a smart plan and gaining the needed experience. They are going to be scared to death to be near TP and he is going to wreck some of them week in and out. This type of racing requires nothing but focus and patience, which it seems Travis has neither of. This "B" League regularly has Sprint Cup drivers amongst the entries so it is not lame at all. When you look and see that RC is still toiling away for several years now with the intent of earning a spot in the Nationwide series, it seems totally ludicrous that TP is just going to show up and race for the 1st time against these guys with his rally car titles. Rally racing does not do much to prepare you for racing stock cars.
Couldnt agree with you more, I'm not a nascar fan either but i have attended a few races at Bristol and have followed RC as most others on here have as well.But RC started with the Late Model division for a year and worked his way up to the trucks because he knew he didnt have the experience or the respect of the fellow drivers around him.An ex Fox rep of mine named Bundy a few of you guys might recall him he was Ramseys mechanic for a while he said he talked to ricky shortly after he tested a stock car at Talladega 3 wide at 180+ MPH and he said it was by far the scariest thing he had ever done in his career to date.But yeah i think pastrana will not be making any friends here and probably use a lot of there budget up early in the 7 Race season in repairs LOL
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Headly 11/13/2010 9:02am
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Not to mention, Ward was at it for years the same way RC is doing it. Wouldn't just about any of us be able to hop...
Not to mention, Ward was at it for years the same way RC is doing it. Wouldn't just about any of us be able to hop in a rally car and drive it proficiently? I'm not saying do anywhere near as well as TP has, but look like we have an idea of what we're doing and have some skills. Think any of us can just as easily race in the Nationwide series and seem equally proficient? I went to a race RC did in CT a few years back. It was a half mile track with very little banking where the top speed is only(!?) about 100mph. The speed at which stuff happened though was unreal. Reaction time is almost nill, and that was only at 100mph. The margin for error is so small.... Rally racing is like MX, you can miss your line and roll through the banners and continue on. In NASCAR you don't roll throught the banners. Missing your line by 6 inches sends you into the wall or into the guy on your left, race over. I will watch when he races, but I really doubt we'll see him qualify at any of those 7 races. If he does, I hope he just finishes and doesn't wrech anyone else. Many drivers will be questioning him being out there.
No, one of “us” could not just hop in a rally car and drive it proficiently. Drive it, yes…drive it like it’s meant to be driven, not so much.

No, one of “us” could not just as easily race in the Nationwide series and seem equally proficient. TP is not one of “us” and I really doubt that he’s just going to hop in and go stock car racing. I do agree that many drivers will be questioning him, and rightfully so for not doing it the same way they did.

The comment about rolling through the banners in a rally race and continuing-on is bogus. Go ahead and Google “rally crash”. Sure, there are low speed crashes that are totally recoverable from...but the bad ones are horrendous.

And think about MC? He started moto late, did relatively crappy at the amateur nationals and turned into “The King”. I’m just saying that we should give him the benefit of the doubt. I think he’s earned it.
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RaceFace 11/13/2010 9:42am
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Well, maybe you're getting the wrong idea of what I mean by proficiently with the rally car. Drive it like it was meant to be driven is not what I stated. Proficiently means not make a total fool of yourself. It's a 4-wheel drive, powerful Subaru on dirt roads. I would drive it fine first time out, I'd finish in last place by a lot, but I would be proficient, might even surpise some people. The point is that there is a huge difference between rally and Nationwide. Beyond huge. Immense. Not like apples and oranges, more like apples and steak.

Just as in MX, crashes can be horrendous, that means that every rally car crash is bad? By the way I didn't say anything about a crash, I said missing a line. I've seen plenty of times where a rally car misses a turn and drives through a field or even a fence and continues on without so much as a tap on the brakes. How is my point bogus? You can also miss the berm and go off the track for a turn in MX. The point is you miss your line in NASCAR by inches and you are in a life threatening situation every single time. There are NO low speed errors because there never is a low speed in that form of racing. I like Travis and wish him the best. Believe me I'll be rooting for him to do well, but I just think if this is his new focus he is biting off way too much right from the get go.
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RaceFace 11/13/2010 9:57am
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No, one of “us” could not just hop in a rally car and drive it proficiently. Drive it, yes…drive it like it’s meant to be driven...
No, one of “us” could not just hop in a rally car and drive it proficiently. Drive it, yes…drive it like it’s meant to be driven, not so much.

No, one of “us” could not just as easily race in the Nationwide series and seem equally proficient. TP is not one of “us” and I really doubt that he’s just going to hop in and go stock car racing. I do agree that many drivers will be questioning him, and rightfully so for not doing it the same way they did.

The comment about rolling through the banners in a rally race and continuing-on is bogus. Go ahead and Google “rally crash”. Sure, there are low speed crashes that are totally recoverable from...but the bad ones are horrendous.

And think about MC? He started moto late, did relatively crappy at the amateur nationals and turned into “The King”. I’m just saying that we should give him the benefit of the doubt. I think he’s earned it.
And about MC: when he started racing MX did he start in the 125 SX class or in some local races years before turning Pro? He started later than most Pros do, but his rise to the top followed a similar progression. John Dowd started RIDING at 20 but he didn't just start racing Pro MX. He was a novice, then an amateur/intermediate, then a local expert, then he tried some nationals. That basically is all I'm saying about Travis, follow some sort of progression to the bigger series.
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RACEGUY 11/13/2010 3:45pm
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I always point out, I am RACEGUY, not MXGUY. (I am a motorsports junkie. Got a problem with that??)

I am really glad this thread has spawned a lot of great discussion without lowering itself to the usual name calling and arguing for the sake of argument.

I am embarrassed that Pastrana would disrespect the Nationwide series by announcing a whole 7 race schedule before he even knows what the half-miles and sportsman level cars have to throw at him. I find it distasteful on a professional level. This is not the American Rally Series. Travis would be very lucky to last beyond the first day at a WRC event. He will be sharing the track with both Sprint Cup regulars and the best of the up-'n'-comers who often bring YEARS of one mile and super-speedway experience.

I am now a RaceFace fan. You get it.
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seven11 11/13/2010 4:39pm
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Pastrana is filled with talent. I think he will do well in the "b" series and land a ride with the big leagues
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RaceFace 11/13/2010 5:51pm
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I always point out, I am RACEGUY, not MXGUY. (I am a motorsports junkie. Got a problem with that??) I am really glad this thread has...
I always point out, I am RACEGUY, not MXGUY. (I am a motorsports junkie. Got a problem with that??)

I am really glad this thread has spawned a lot of great discussion without lowering itself to the usual name calling and arguing for the sake of argument.

I am embarrassed that Pastrana would disrespect the Nationwide series by announcing a whole 7 race schedule before he even knows what the half-miles and sportsman level cars have to throw at him. I find it distasteful on a professional level. This is not the American Rally Series. Travis would be very lucky to last beyond the first day at a WRC event. He will be sharing the track with both Sprint Cup regulars and the best of the up-'n'-comers who often bring YEARS of one mile and super-speedway experience.

I am now a RaceFace fan. You get it.
Thank you, Sir. I was reading on the Nationwide website the news regarding this and unfortunately the headline refers to Travis as a "Daredevil". At least in the news piece there Waltrip talks about the 7 races coming late in the year after Travis races in as many oval track races as possible wherever he can, week in and week out. That at least makes much better sense. The other unfortunate thing is that this all basically began when Travis jumped his car onto the barge. It seems the attraction is his young following and not necessarily his abilities as a driver. Until today, I thought Travis WAS racing the world rally championship, not some 5 race series here in the USA. I mean, BMXer Dave Mirra is another top driver in this series. He has a lot to learn and he can probably do a decent job with a lot of effort. I don't know how much effort (for how long) he'll put in though. I'm just glad to see some sense coming from Waltrip regarding this.
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roguemx 11/13/2010 6:01pm
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I've read several times that Travis has Attention Deficit Disorder and that his mind would start to wander about halfway through a supercross race. Remember when...
I've read several times that Travis has Attention Deficit Disorder and that his mind would start to wander about halfway through a supercross race.



Remember when he tried racing with music playing in his helmet so that he could help keep focused?



I wonder how that's going to work out for him in a NASCAR race going around in circles for a few hours. Hopefully it all works out okay.

He's also tried to have a pit crew radio just so people could talk to him throughout the race, he'll have it now, it just might work. Either way, anything he does, he makes worth watching.
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Tbteam 11/13/2010 6:05pm
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Lots of "experts" on here. Simply put, Travis will get more exposure in one season of the "b league" NASCAR series than he has in his entire life. I support him because when he makes his mind up to do something, he's all in.
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RaceFace 11/14/2010 8:32am
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Tbteam wrote:
Lots of "experts" on here. Simply put, Travis will get more exposure in one season of the "b league" NASCAR series than he has in his...
Lots of "experts" on here. Simply put, Travis will get more exposure in one season of the "b league" NASCAR series than he has in his entire life. I support him because when he makes his mind up to do something, he's all in.
Travis has never been "all in" for any one focus. Even when racing SX/MX, DeCoster had a constant struggle to deal with the FMX aspect of Travis' focus. That's about as close as he's come to being all in (SX/MX) for something and he wasn't all in for that. RC is a guy that goes "all in" when he decides to do something. Is Travis going to put away the ramps and the foam pit now? Doubt it. I support both of them though, simply because they are MXers. It is awesome to see them taking on new challenges such as this. I wish both of them the best but I see RC sticking with this for years in typical RC grind it out fashion while I see Travis coming and going rather quickly. RC finished 21st on the lead lap yesterday in the Phoenix Nationwide race, which after all this time is only his 4th Nationwide start. Travis is going to pack all that experience RC has gained into the first half of the year? I have my doubts, but good luck to both.

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