Whose “Hype” is bigger Alessi vs Deegan?

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Brad460 10/9/2025 4:13pm
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Gimmea2Smoke wrote:
respectfully disagree. CW2 was mopping the floor on the 250 in MX. Then he moved to 450 and has done nil outdoors. I predict the same...

respectfully disagree. CW2 was mopping the floor on the 250 in MX. Then he moved to 450 and has done nil outdoors. I predict the same for lil Deegs. He's going to become Barcia2.0 and will have good days/nights...but for the most part...will be a non-issue. Stamp it. ;-)

In my handful of years on VitalMx I can say there is a very high probability your prediction will be completely wrong. If you’re still around next summer, this one will be good to come back to. For the most part folks in here are historically terrible at predictions…Mostly because their predictions are based off emotions…and need for attention in a thread..

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Jeremy Macduff 10/9/2025 4:20pm
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Deegan drives me absolutely nuts but hype is only a thing in the rear-view mirror, when you can look back on someone who didn't fulfill the hype.

Deegan has fulfilled the hype. He has multiple championships right into Pros. Let's not ignore the fact the kid is fast as anyone we've seen in over a decade. 

He's a dick, though. A real dick.

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gt80rider wrote:

Before going pro, Alessi had wayy more hype, so did Stew and AC.. Deegs was a top AM rider, but not AC/Stew/Alessi dominant... 

Don’t forget about Millsaps!!

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Mossy940 wrote:
It was not, but I dont know whether to take that as a compliment or as a dig......Ill go with the former and say thank you...

It was not, but I dont know whether to take that as a compliment or as a dig......Ill go with the former and say thank you! ha

Cargo wrote:

You should definitely take it as a dig 🤷‍♂️

Mossy940 wrote:

Thanks dick!

I was just joking sorry mate didn’t mean to be a dick 😬 Your post was spot on 👌

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Gimmea2Smoke wrote:
lil Deegs is gonna be Barcia2.0. Stamp it. He'll get a win here and there when stars align, but for the most part, his headlines will...

lil Deegs is gonna be Barcia2.0. Stamp it. He'll get a win here and there when stars align, but for the most part, his headlines will be reduced to 20 vital threads about whatever boneheaded bullshit he pulled on Sat night each week. Nothing more.

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I always look at the delusional people who agree to comments like this and block them.

Too dumb for me to even look at.

You're a really fragile individual...

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Sully wrote:

You're a really fragile individual...

Blocked. Who's next? They're free 

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Johnny Ringo wrote:
You guys really weren’t around for 2005 were you. There was no bigger hype. 

You guys really weren’t around for 2005 were you. There was no bigger hype. 

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Absolutely

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Sully wrote:

You're a really fragile individual...

Yamabog wrote:

Blocked. Who's next? They're free 

You’re fighting for your life right now for a multi-millionaire factory rider who would likely blow you off if you tried to approach him on the street. Making announcements about blocking people who disagree with you just make you seem wildly insecure. 

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Yamabog 10/9/2025 6:37pm
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uncledaddy69 wrote:
You’re fighting for your life right now for a multi-millionaire factory rider who would likely blow you off if you tried to approach him on the...

You’re fighting for your life right now for a multi-millionaire factory rider who would likely blow you off if you tried to approach him on the street. Making announcements about blocking people who disagree with you just make you seem wildly insecure. 

Blocked. Fantasy ranking is way too fucking high for me to speak to you. Don't talk dumby.

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uncledaddy69 wrote:
You’re fighting for your life right now for a multi-millionaire factory rider who would likely blow you off if you tried to approach him on the...

You’re fighting for your life right now for a multi-millionaire factory rider who would likely blow you off if you tried to approach him on the street. Making announcements about blocking people who disagree with you just make you seem wildly insecure. 

Yamabog wrote:

Blocked. Fantasy ranking is way too fucking high for me to speak to you. Don't talk dumby.

You're a really fragile individual...

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Anyway -

I was at that race, and there was a real buzz around Mike, his family, their approach to racing and his decision to make his first pro race a 450 effort.  He was on a 450 honda built by Varner I think, but I remember he was fast, but he was 16, and the Millville track is a rough one on pro day.  They had built the Holy Schmit jump in memory of Donny, and it was 105 feet coming off a short right hander after the collarbone - nasty and very few were hitting it, but Alessi was, he was 16.   

He took a lot of shit from fans and other riders over the course of his career, some of it was earned, some of it not, but he always raced hard and worked hard for his sponsors.

I enjoyed watching him ride.  Hope he is doing well.

To answer the OP - Alessi hype was greater - if for no other reason than we didn't have the communication and social media we do now. 

 

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Last2Stroke 10/9/2025 7:30pm
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uncledaddy69 wrote:
You’re fighting for your life right now for a multi-millionaire factory rider who would likely blow you off if you tried to approach him on the...

You’re fighting for your life right now for a multi-millionaire factory rider who would likely blow you off if you tried to approach him on the street. Making announcements about blocking people who disagree with you just make you seem wildly insecure. 

Yamabog wrote:

Blocked. Fantasy ranking is way too fucking high for me to speak to you. Don't talk dumby.

Is my fantasy rack too high?

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Black Diesel Bomber 10/9/2025 7:32pm
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uncledaddy69 wrote:
You’re fighting for your life right now for a multi-millionaire factory rider who would likely blow you off if you tried to approach him on the...

You’re fighting for your life right now for a multi-millionaire factory rider who would likely blow you off if you tried to approach him on the street. Making announcements about blocking people who disagree with you just make you seem wildly insecure. 

Yamabog wrote:

Blocked. Fantasy ranking is way too fucking high for me to speak to you. Don't talk dumby.

Last2Stroke wrote:

Is my fantasy rack too high?

Yes, need to make the top 100 or you're a lapper.  Top 50 is really where it's at.

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Yamabog wrote:

Blocked. Who's next? They're free 

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Yamabog wrote:

Blocked. Fantasy ranking is way too fucking high for me to speak to you. Don't talk dumby.

Last2Stroke wrote:

Is my fantasy rack too high?

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

Yes, need to make the top 100 or you're a lapper.  Top 50 is really where it's at.

It looks like you...

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The Moth wrote:
Cooper Webb didn’t mop the floor in the 250 class. His overall outdoor results were, 9, 3, 11, 1 respectively. If you can’t see the difference...

Cooper Webb didn’t mop the floor in the 250 class. His overall outdoor results were, 9, 3, 11, 1 respectively. If you can’t see the difference between Deegan’s 250 career and Justin Barcia or Cooper Webb’s 250 numbers you are either not looking at the results or biased. 

The scoresheet barely tells the story, I’d argue Barcia had a similar amount of talent but he was often injured in outdoors and had all time competition (Tomac, Roczen, Baggett, Musquin, etc), but he could run with absolutely anybody

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Johnny Ringo wrote:
You guys really weren’t around for 2005 were you. There was no bigger hype. 

You guys really weren’t around for 2005 were you. There was no bigger hype. 

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I was there for that one, the freaking rain was INTENSE. That whole winter in SoCal was nuts.

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Gimmea2Smoke wrote:
lil Deegs is gonna be Barcia2.0. Stamp it. He'll get a win here and there when stars align, but for the most part, his headlines will...

lil Deegs is gonna be Barcia2.0. Stamp it. He'll get a win here and there when stars align, but for the most part, his headlines will be reduced to 20 vital threads about whatever boneheaded bullshit he pulled on Sat night each week. Nothing more.

themx11 wrote:
In supercross this wouldn’t surprise me. But I think he will be pretty dangerous outdoors. Not sure anyone will touch Jett for the next decade but...

In supercross this wouldn’t surprise me. But I think he will be pretty dangerous outdoors. Not sure anyone will touch Jett for the next decade but he’s probably the best chance outdoors. 

Gimmea2Smoke wrote:
respectfully disagree. CW2 was mopping the floor on the 250 in MX. Then he moved to 450 and has done nil outdoors. I predict the same...

respectfully disagree. CW2 was mopping the floor on the 250 in MX. Then he moved to 450 and has done nil outdoors. I predict the same for lil Deegs. He's going to become Barcia2.0 and will have good days/nights...but for the most part...will be a non-issue. Stamp it. ;-)

Webb was “mopping the floor” ?

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I blocked yamabog for no other reason than he was being a dick on my thread.. does that mean he can’t post here about his fragile ego? Asking for a friend…

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And what the hell is this hidden for down votes thing hiding my thread name? What’s that all about? I know I’ve been mia for awhile from the site but.. what’s this about? 

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Camo383 wrote:
I got to meet Mike briefly when he stayed at ClubMX in 2016. Like most people, I had a negative perception of him and his family...

I got to meet Mike briefly when he stayed at ClubMX in 2016. Like most people, I had a negative perception of him and his family before he got there, all of which changed when I got to talk to him. He was extremely down to earth and very friendly to chat with. He could've been like most high profile pros and hid in his own private garage away from everyone, but he would take time out of his routine or between motos to cheer random guys on track during training sessions. I even ran into him years later when I was doing the Canadian nationals, where he remembered me by name and struck a conversation, which he was still an awesome guy to talk to. Of course he made his fair share of mistakes throughout his career but there was something about the way he carried himself, where you knew he had to live with said mistakes (would bet good money it keeps him up at night) and he kept trying to be a good person anyway. 

I never met Tony personally, but I remember Brandon Haas (owner of ClubMX) spoke very highly of him. I can understand a lot of the criticism Tony has got for his questionable decisions, but for what it's worth, people should know that it was Tony who saw the potential in Cameron McAdoo while he was staying at Club and extended him rider support to turn pro. If it weren't for Tony's help, McAdoo's pro career would look wildly different or not exist at all.

Another neat character trait of Mike is how he's continued his life after his 'retirement' from pro racing. He trains as hard as he did when he was a factory rider, does a great job of representing the companies willing to support him and sets a great example to those still following him. It's safe to say the guy eats, sleeps and breathes everything with the purpose of bettering himself as a rider. No social media drama, just a guy who loves the sport.

Meanwhile the Deegans, specifically Brian, will nonchalantly throw shade at them, while the irony is lost on them that they've become more insufferable people than the Alessi family ever was.

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JoJmoto wrote:
I’m not sure I have seen this much hype behind a rider moving from the lites class to the premier class since Mike Alessi did his...

I’m not sure I have seen this much hype behind a rider moving from the lites class to the premier class since Mike Alessi did his “Believe the hype” campaign when he was moving up. We all see how he faced reality when he saw how different things are in the 450 class so, this is a two part question. 

1) Whose hype is bigger

2) What’s your opinion on how danger boy is actually going to fair his first year


Personally I think Mike made a bigger deal about moving up and created a lot of anticipation and loved he made those funny T Shirts.

I think Deegan will have some success to include maybe winning a round of SX and a round or two of MX but I see him as a top 5-8 guy on races he doesn’t crash out of. 

What is the "lites class"? And by "how danger boy is actually going to fair his first year" do you mean go to the fair? Or do you mean how well will he do (fare)?

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Sully wrote:

You're a really fragile individual...

Yamabog wrote:

Blocked. Who's next? They're free 

Can I have one please 🙋‍♂️

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Sully wrote:

You're a really fragile individual...

Yamabog wrote:

Blocked. Who's next? They're free 

Cargo wrote:

Can I have one please 🙋‍♂️

Sorry bro, you'll have to reach out to him, I sent him packing.. 

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uncledaddy69 wrote:
You’re fighting for your life right now for a multi-millionaire factory rider who would likely blow you off if you tried to approach him on the...

You’re fighting for your life right now for a multi-millionaire factory rider who would likely blow you off if you tried to approach him on the street. Making announcements about blocking people who disagree with you just make you seem wildly insecure. 

Yamabog wrote:

Blocked. Fantasy ranking is way too fucking high for me to speak to you. Don't talk dumby.

" dumby " ------------Perfect 🤣.  If this BeanBag blocks enough of us, there won't be anything for him to read or respond to.  I believe that should be the goal 

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What exactly does "Blocking" do? Does it make it so the blocked person's post don't show up for you anymore?

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SEEMEFIRST wrote:

What exactly does "Blocking" do? Does it make it so the blocked person's post don't show up for you anymore?

I blocked you just now to get a screenshot to show you what it does. It just collapses their comment so you don't see it. At the rate he's going, the guy's threads are going to be mainly all blocked outside of the 5 Deegan shit posters that haven't gotten the hint yet. He's creating a hugbox.

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uncledaddy69 wrote:
You’re fighting for your life right now for a multi-millionaire factory rider who would likely blow you off if you tried to approach him on the...

You’re fighting for your life right now for a multi-millionaire factory rider who would likely blow you off if you tried to approach him on the street. Making announcements about blocking people who disagree with you just make you seem wildly insecure. 

Yamabog wrote:

Blocked. Fantasy ranking is way too fucking high for me to speak to you. Don't talk dumby.

Block me next, loser. 

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Yamabog 10/10/2025 12:19pm
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Lots of retards blocked. It's super easy to attract them all into one area. Click click bang!

Normal folks don't even pay attention to this shit. You turds are all over it. 

Hey Aeffertz, head to your sweaty basement and go model yourself a dildo seat to sit on while you surf Vital. Blocked! 
 

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themx11 wrote:
In supercross this wouldn’t surprise me. But I think he will be pretty dangerous outdoors. Not sure anyone will touch Jett for the next decade but...

In supercross this wouldn’t surprise me. But I think he will be pretty dangerous outdoors. Not sure anyone will touch Jett for the next decade but he’s probably the best chance outdoors. 

Gimmea2Smoke wrote:
respectfully disagree. CW2 was mopping the floor on the 250 in MX. Then he moved to 450 and has done nil outdoors. I predict the same...

respectfully disagree. CW2 was mopping the floor on the 250 in MX. Then he moved to 450 and has done nil outdoors. I predict the same for lil Deegs. He's going to become Barcia2.0 and will have good days/nights...but for the most part...will be a non-issue. Stamp it. ;-)

thewrizzle wrote:

Webb was “mopping the floor” ?

when he won a 250MX Championship? By very definition = YES.

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