Grates, blocks, devices and clouds

mx_563
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I know this dead horse has been beat to oblivion but dangit I hate the new world order of starting grates, starting blocks and start devices. Does anyone remain unconvinced that more separation out of the gate yields fewer first turn melees? I know I sound like an old man shouting at clouds but I'm over 50 and that's what I do from time to time! LOL!

Just look at the skill MC and these guys exhibit as they work to get up and over the gate, this is poetry in motion...
https://youtu.be/_VmyOcpEyBE?t=1239

Can we re-introduce the starting gate as a separation creating obstacle in motocross? Who's with me? 

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10/7/2025 12:28am
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Sorry dude...I could not help it

I also agree, get rid of all the start gadgets.

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CPR
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10/7/2025 1:15am

Also agree but hard to see it happening. 

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wwdiii
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10/7/2025 3:40am

Let’s bing back rubber band starts!

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10/7/2025 4:30am
CPR wrote:

Also agree but hard to see it happening. 

It wont. Especially with all the money companies that support the sport have spent developing all these products. And the money they make selling them. Now the powers that be are going to yank them?

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10/7/2025 4:46am
CPR wrote:

Also agree but hard to see it happening. 

It wont. Especially with all the money companies that support the sport have spent developing all these products. And the money they make selling them. Now...

It wont. Especially with all the money companies that support the sport have spent developing all these products. And the money they make selling them. Now the powers that be are going to yank them?

I can live with all the gadgets but they need to dump those grates.

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10/7/2025 4:51am
CPR wrote:

Also agree but hard to see it happening. 

It wont. Especially with all the money companies that support the sport have spent developing all these products. And the money they make selling them. Now...

It wont. Especially with all the money companies that support the sport have spent developing all these products. And the money they make selling them. Now the powers that be are going to yank them?

Boomslang wrote:

I can live with all the gadgets but they need to dump those grates.

Yeah was bummed to see even the holeshot challenge at MXdN had grates, and none of those legends ever raced on them.

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10/7/2025 4:54am

Someon  posted a video of them cleaning up the ruts in front of the gate between motos at MXDN.

I mean this shit is ridiculous.  They've just completely taken a whole skill set out of the spirt and for the most exciting part if the race.

 

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10/7/2025 6:00am

You don’t need to get rid of them, the AMA can just regulate them. Make a max depth on start devices, max height on the blocks, don’t allow the blocks to be attached to the grates. What they are allowing now is ridiculous, especially what they are letting Deegan do. 

10/7/2025 6:02am

the only sport I can think of with virtually zero regulation/rules regarding one of the most critical aspects of a race. If everybody uses avail tech = no advantage. They're all using the same equipment. Why not strike all of it and level the playing field back to "stock"? 

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10/7/2025 8:16am
wwdiii wrote:

Let’s bing back rubber band starts!

Those were good times at my local fair races, using the massive rubber band.  😁

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bluesmoke
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10/7/2025 8:36am
mx_563 wrote:
I know this dead horse has been beat to oblivion but dangit I hate the new world order of starting grates, starting blocks and start devices...

I know this dead horse has been beat to oblivion but dangit I hate the new world order of starting grates, starting blocks and start devices. Does anyone remain unconvinced that more separation out of the gate yields fewer first turn melees? I know I sound like an old man shouting at clouds but I'm over 50 and that's what I do from time to time! LOL!

Just look at the skill MC and these guys exhibit as they work to get up and over the gate, this is poetry in motion...
https://youtu.be/_VmyOcpEyBE?t=1239

Can we re-introduce the starting gate as a separation creating obstacle in motocross? Who's with me? 

I also agree. When will the gimmicks end? However,  as one who is vertically challenged  I like the start blocks!😁 I appreciated a good deep rut behind the gate. ''Back in the day'' it was the good 'ol milk crate. 

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sumdood
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10/7/2025 8:55am
CPR wrote:

Also agree but hard to see it happening. 

It wont. Especially with all the money companies that support the sport have spent developing all these products. And the money they make selling them. Now...

It wont. Especially with all the money companies that support the sport have spent developing all these products. And the money they make selling them. Now the powers that be are going to yank them?

Boomslang wrote:

I can live with all the gadgets but they need to dump those grates.

No keep the grates we're developing a new product. Magnetic rim locks. Line up with rim lock at the bottom and it sucks the tire down for maximum traction. Also developing a spring loaded front wheel. Roll it backwards several turns to pre load the spring like a kids toy car. 2 wheel drive for the first 10 feet combined with our max trax magnetic rim locks guarantee you'll be starting at the front of the pack. 👍   

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bluesmoke
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10/7/2025 9:15am
It wont. Especially with all the money companies that support the sport have spent developing all these products. And the money they make selling them. Now...

It wont. Especially with all the money companies that support the sport have spent developing all these products. And the money they make selling them. Now the powers that be are going to yank them?

Boomslang wrote:

I can live with all the gadgets but they need to dump those grates.

sumdood wrote:
No keep the grates we're developing a new product. Magnetic rim locks. Line up with rim lock at the bottom and it sucks the tire down...

No keep the grates we're developing a new product. Magnetic rim locks. Line up with rim lock at the bottom and it sucks the tire down for maximum traction. Also developing a spring loaded front wheel. Roll it backwards several turns to pre load the spring like a kids toy car. 2 wheel drive for the first 10 feet combined with our max trax magnetic rim locks guarantee you'll be starting at the front of the pack. 👍   

😆 laser sensing to auto throttle for precise jumps and whoop control. Problem with ruts? Not anymore! We got you covered with our ''nuts to ruts'' an axle system consisting of gyro's and accelerometer's. Once you enter the rut (that part is up to you) leave the rest to Nuts to Ruts. You  will rail that sucker like a slot car! 

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