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Anyone saying cooper over haiden on the 250 is delusional haiden is the best 250 rider in the world…. Cooper over rj though too cooper has...

Anyone saying cooper over haiden on the 250 is delusional haiden is the best 250 rider in the world…. Cooper over rj though too cooper has stepped up numerous times even though they are both great lets hope USA does it this year!!

He had the last two years to prove he was the best 250 rider in the world and this year he’s coming in injured. Hard to...

He had the last two years to prove he was the best 250 rider in the world and this year he’s coming in injured. Hard to say he’s the best in the world. 

Did you not watch the same ama outdoor nationals everybody else did? 

I did and saw that Deegan is the best 250 rider in the US, but we’re yet to see him line up against the GP guys, so saying he’s the best in the world is nothing more than opinion at this stage. 
My opinion is that it will be very interesting, and I expect the best euro guys to be right there with him.

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Anyone saying cooper over haiden on the 250 is delusional haiden is the best 250 rider in the world…. Cooper over rj though too cooper has...

Anyone saying cooper over haiden on the 250 is delusional haiden is the best 250 rider in the world…. Cooper over rj though too cooper has stepped up numerous times even though they are both great lets hope USA does it this year!!

Put some fuckin respect on coopers name. Dude was battling jett for titles. Also those in the know or know people from the farm haidens not the lock you think he is for speed. Hes gonna need to work for it if he want to consistently beat Webb and Cooper indoors AND outdoor. An work hard.

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He had the last two years to prove he was the best 250 rider in the world and this year he’s coming in injured. Hard to...

He had the last two years to prove he was the best 250 rider in the world and this year he’s coming in injured. Hard to say he’s the best in the world. 

Did you not watch the same ama outdoor nationals everybody else did? 

I did watch the AMA nationals this year. And last year. And the year before that. I did not see de Wolf, Coenen, Langenfelder or any...

I did watch the AMA nationals this year. And last year. And the year before that. I did not see de Wolf, Coenen, Langenfelder or any of the other WORLD 250 riders out there with Deegan this summer. I would like to see how he stacks up against the rest of the world. 

some people really struggle with the term "rest of the world"... 

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He had the last two years to prove he was the best 250 rider in the world and this year he’s coming in injured. Hard to...

He had the last two years to prove he was the best 250 rider in the world and this year he’s coming in injured. Hard to say he’s the best in the world. 

Did you not watch the same ama outdoor nationals everybody else did? 

CPR wrote:
I did and saw that Deegan is the best 250 rider in the US, but we’re yet to see him line up against the GP guys...

I did and saw that Deegan is the best 250 rider in the US, but we’re yet to see him line up against the GP guys, so saying he’s the best in the world is nothing more than opinion at this stage. 
My opinion is that it will be very interesting, and I expect the best euro guys to be right there with him.

Last year, De Wolf even said that he was the fastest in the world since Haiden didn't show up to nations. 

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Anyone saying cooper over haiden on the 250 is delusional haiden is the best 250 rider in the world…. Cooper over rj though too cooper has...

Anyone saying cooper over haiden on the 250 is delusional haiden is the best 250 rider in the world…. Cooper over rj though too cooper has stepped up numerous times even though they are both great lets hope USA does it this year!!

He had the last two years to prove he was the best 250 rider in the world and this year he’s coming in injured. Hard to...

He had the last two years to prove he was the best 250 rider in the world and this year he’s coming in injured. Hard to say he’s the best in the world. 

Did you not watch the same ama outdoor nationals everybody else did? 

They just watch the highlights. “Fans” of the sport. Yeah right.

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Did you not watch the same ama outdoor nationals everybody else did? 

CPR wrote:
I did and saw that Deegan is the best 250 rider in the US, but we’re yet to see him line up against the GP guys...

I did and saw that Deegan is the best 250 rider in the US, but we’re yet to see him line up against the GP guys, so saying he’s the best in the world is nothing more than opinion at this stage. 
My opinion is that it will be very interesting, and I expect the best euro guys to be right there with him.

Last year, De Wolf even said that he was the fastest in the world since Haiden didn't show up to nations. 

He may have, but again it’s still opinion not demonstrated.

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I'm not sure AMA had any choice here. By all reports, RJ and jcoop left Vegas Saturday night planning to race. AMA had those conversations and put things in motion assuming Deegan would be out. Deegan inc didn't withdraw, continued on as is nothing happened and the world revolves around them, and basically dared AMA to tell them they couldn't come. Deegan would have certainly went scorched earth and played the victim if they told him he was out, so here we are. We'll head to the race with no idea if he's truly ready to go or just wants the PR. Not a great situation but not sure what the AMA is supposed to do if the guy they selected is adamant he's good to go. 

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Did you not watch the same ama outdoor nationals everybody else did? 

I did watch the AMA nationals this year. And last year. And the year before that. I did not see de Wolf, Coenen, Langenfelder or any...

I did watch the AMA nationals this year. And last year. And the year before that. I did not see de Wolf, Coenen, Langenfelder or any of the other WORLD 250 riders out there with Deegan this summer. I would like to see how he stacks up against the rest of the world. 

decano51 wrote:

some people really struggle with the term "rest of the world"... 

You mean second rate series… ask your boy Prado

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I’m all American 🇺🇸  I’d like us to win, big competition with the Hunter and Jett which is fine. But if mammas Leg Drip boy wants to try and disrupt a team that was assembled following his horseshit antics and now J-Coop is second fiddle, NO. That’s horseshit, dribble boy needs to site it out. That’s BS, 

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Again the AMA leadership disappoints-they pick the team, they can unpick the team depending on the circumstance. A guy breaks his collarbone, regardless of circumstance, and the race is in 8 days. Replace him without bias. Don't care who the rider is. Whomever is in that 250 spot has to bring it against some fast motherfuckers. Anyone who sleeps on the top MX2 dudes are delusional. You need to be 100%. This particular rider will not be. What the fuck are we doing here? Does team USA want to win, or? J-Coop will kill it on that 250. He is the guy. And, I still do not believe that the original 250 pick will race-this is strictly reputational re-hab.

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Does anyone really believe that Deegan is going to be ready to race 2 weeks post surgery? That sounds impossible to me. Can anyone here with their collarbone plated share their experience with the recovery?

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Does anyone really believe that Deegan is going to be ready to race 2 weeks post surgery? That sounds impossible to me. Can anyone here with...

Does anyone really believe that Deegan is going to be ready to race 2 weeks post surgery? That sounds impossible to me. Can anyone here with their collarbone plated share their experience with the recovery?

Coty Schock raced in 5 days or so.

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I did watch the AMA nationals this year. And last year. And the year before that. I did not see de Wolf, Coenen, Langenfelder or any...

I did watch the AMA nationals this year. And last year. And the year before that. I did not see de Wolf, Coenen, Langenfelder or any of the other WORLD 250 riders out there with Deegan this summer. I would like to see how he stacks up against the rest of the world. 

decano51 wrote:

some people really struggle with the term "rest of the world"... 

You mean second rate series… ask your boy Prado

"rest of the world".... but great reassurance of my point.  Id say, Ask ya boy Deegan on that term but he doesn't leave the country.

let me just double check with team Australia first 😜  
 

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i assume he is missing the part where his reason for not going in the first place last year was that he had hardware in his wrist..  you know when USA needed him to race overseas but he declined? 

Now its on home soil and all of a sudden he is tough enough to ride with hardware 2 weeks after surgery? 


 

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He had the last two years to prove he was the best 250 rider in the world and this year he’s coming in injured. Hard to...

He had the last two years to prove he was the best 250 rider in the world and this year he’s coming in injured. Hard to say he’s the best in the world. 

Did you not watch the same ama outdoor nationals everybody else did? 

CPR wrote:
I did and saw that Deegan is the best 250 rider in the US, but we’re yet to see him line up against the GP guys...

I did and saw that Deegan is the best 250 rider in the US, but we’re yet to see him line up against the GP guys, so saying he’s the best in the world is nothing more than opinion at this stage. 
My opinion is that it will be very interesting, and I expect the best euro guys to be right there with him.

Is Vialle not a GP guy or am I missing something

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Anyone saying cooper over haiden on the 250 is delusional haiden is the best 250 rider in the world…. Cooper over rj though too cooper has...

Anyone saying cooper over haiden on the 250 is delusional haiden is the best 250 rider in the world…. Cooper over rj though too cooper has stepped up numerous times even though they are both great lets hope USA does it this year!!

I’d rather get 2nd with cooper than 1st with Deegan. 

you should probably see a professional about that, im sure they have medications that could help.

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Anyone saying cooper over haiden on the 250 is delusional haiden is the best 250 rider in the world…. Cooper over rj though too cooper has...

Anyone saying cooper over haiden on the 250 is delusional haiden is the best 250 rider in the world…. Cooper over rj though too cooper has stepped up numerous times even though they are both great lets hope USA does it this year!!

I’d rather get 2nd with cooper than 1st with Deegan. 

ZinAZ wrote:

you should probably see a professional about that, im sure they have medications that could help.

LouisianaMotocross is actually that Jimmy kook that called into PulpMX Monday night in tears about Deegan being such a SOB 😭

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i think rj has been a bit better than cooper recently but cooper has been clutch at mxdn and gets great starts. 

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shortty761 wrote:

LouisianaMotocross is actually that Jimmy kook that called into PulpMX Monday night in tears about Deegan being such a SOB 😭

He is? That was something.😭😭

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Does anyone really believe that Deegan is going to be ready to race 2 weeks post surgery? That sounds impossible to me. Can anyone here with...

Does anyone really believe that Deegan is going to be ready to race 2 weeks post surgery? That sounds impossible to me. Can anyone here with their collarbone plated share their experience with the recovery?

It’s not a huge deal. I raced a 2+ hour harescramble about 2.5 weeks after getting mine plated. Obviously I’m nowhere near Deegans level, but I did win the Open A class. It’s been a few years, but I don’t recall it bothering me much at all. 

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Did you not watch the same ama outdoor nationals everybody else did? 

CPR wrote:
I did and saw that Deegan is the best 250 rider in the US, but we’re yet to see him line up against the GP guys...

I did and saw that Deegan is the best 250 rider in the US, but we’re yet to see him line up against the GP guys, so saying he’s the best in the world is nothing more than opinion at this stage. 
My opinion is that it will be very interesting, and I expect the best euro guys to be right there with him.

Is Vialle not a GP guy or am I missing something

You’re missing Langenfelder, de Wolf,  Adamo, Coenen…….

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It’s not a huge deal. I raced a 2+ hour harescramble about 2.5 weeks after getting mine plated. Obviously I’m nowhere near Deegans level, but I...

It’s not a huge deal. I raced a 2+ hour harescramble about 2.5 weeks after getting mine plated. Obviously I’m nowhere near Deegans level, but I did win the Open A class. It’s been a few years, but I don’t recall it bothering me much at all. 

Is having it plated less painful than letting it heal on its own? Mine didn’t need surgery but it was only really painful if I moved. Or breathed. 

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Did you not watch the same ama outdoor nationals everybody else did? 

I did watch the AMA nationals this year. And last year. And the year before that. I did not see de Wolf, Coenen, Langenfelder or any...

I did watch the AMA nationals this year. And last year. And the year before that. I did not see de Wolf, Coenen, Langenfelder or any of the other WORLD 250 riders out there with Deegan this summer. I would like to see how he stacks up against the rest of the world. 

decano51 wrote:

some people really struggle with the term "rest of the world"... 

Yeah but to be fair to the "muricans" they've grown on the "World series" which is all american (and a token canuckistan team).  Too much corn syrup leads to confusion.

For me, once the Kiwis weren't even going to be trying for the B final this year, I'll be cheering for those dingo's across the Tasman. And specifically Tomac, and now specifically RJ.

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agn5008 wrote:
It’s not a huge deal. I raced a 2+ hour harescramble about 2.5 weeks after getting mine plated. Obviously I’m nowhere near Deegans level, but I...

It’s not a huge deal. I raced a 2+ hour harescramble about 2.5 weeks after getting mine plated. Obviously I’m nowhere near Deegans level, but I did win the Open A class. It’s been a few years, but I don’t recall it bothering me much at all. 

Is having it plated less painful than letting it heal on its own? Mine didn’t need surgery but it was only really painful if I moved...

Is having it plated less painful than letting it heal on its own? Mine didn’t need surgery but it was only really painful if I moved. Or breathed. 

Yes. My pain reduced significantly after the surgery. Basically your bones are held together and not moving around when you move. 

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He had the last two years to prove he was the best 250 rider in the world and this year he’s coming in injured. Hard to...

He had the last two years to prove he was the best 250 rider in the world and this year he’s coming in injured. Hard to say he’s the best in the world. 

Did you not watch the same ama outdoor nationals everybody else did? 

shortty761 wrote:

They just watch the highlights. “Fans” of the sport. Yeah right.

You just watch Deegan's YouTube or his "highlights" 

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Did you not watch the same ama outdoor nationals everybody else did? 

shortty761 wrote:

They just watch the highlights. “Fans” of the sport. Yeah right.

JnDubZ wrote:

You just watch Deegan's YouTube or his "highlights" 

I know more and have seen more in the industry than you’ve ever dreamed of buddy.

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CPR wrote:
I did and saw that Deegan is the best 250 rider in the US, but we’re yet to see him line up against the GP guys...

I did and saw that Deegan is the best 250 rider in the US, but we’re yet to see him line up against the GP guys, so saying he’s the best in the world is nothing more than opinion at this stage. 
My opinion is that it will be very interesting, and I expect the best euro guys to be right there with him.

Is Vialle not a GP guy or am I missing something

CPR wrote:

You’re missing Langenfelder, de Wolf,  Adamo, Coenen…….

As much as I dislike Deegans persona, I don't think anyone has anything for that guy except on the sand tracks. And that is with GP guys having the whole winter prepping for MX. De Wolf and Lucas last year I would have put on the same level, but De Wolf seemed really off this year. I'm german that's why I'm super pumped for Simon obviously but I also think he wouldn't stand a chance if De Wolf rode like last year..

Though at MXON anything can happen, specially with Deegan not coming in at 100%. 

Also the Vialle we saw in the the US isn't the same guy we saw in MXGP. He rides outdoors completely different with only having a couple weeks of actual MX testing in the US. (Which is the same for everyone in the US obviously, but some adapt better than others). He's missing the intensity and confidence he had over here and I also think his goal was mainly SX aswell. Ernee 2023 MXON is the last time we saw the actual Vialle imo. Maybe I'm completely delusional, but that's how I see it.

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