Charlie Kirk Shot at university campus

9/17/2025 3:54pm
Jeffro802 wrote:
Why exactly did a far right, MAGA supporting gun enthusiast kill Charlie Kirk? Isn’t Charlie Kirk a fellow far right, MAGA supporting gun enthusiast? Everyone said...

Why exactly did a far right, MAGA supporting gun enthusiast kill Charlie Kirk? Isn’t Charlie Kirk a fellow far right, MAGA supporting gun enthusiast? Everyone said it was a democrat that did it at first but that hasn’t that proven to be wrong. I haven’t paid too much attention because most of the conversation around this is very hateful. Can someone explain? 

Have you done any research yet on this topic to learn the shooter had been radicalized by the extreme left and was definitely not a MAGA supporting gun enthusiast?  Hopefully you can come back and acknowledge this as it's all out in the open now and is very clear what happened. 

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Guy was MAGA at one point, when he was younger he wore a trump costume for Halloween. Likely when he got older and realized he was gay...

Guy was MAGA at one point, when he was younger he wore a trump costume for Halloween. 

Likely when he got older and realized he was gay things changed. He only went to college at a conservative school for 1 semester in 2021 so that probably wasn't a huge factor.

I've seen other Mormons that did things to cross their religion and family values lose the support of their families and it can really do a number on their mental state.  The mom saying he got more "political" recently probably means he got more political in the opposite direction of them, probably wouldn't clock it if he went their way 

It's a shame it seems he took it out on Kirk, motive seems murky at best based on the information made public so far.

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Dang murky motive... Guess it just came out of left field.  

Dang murky motive... Guess it just came out of left field. 

 

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Is that you on the cover? 

Sounds like your implying that a drag queen holding an AR-15 and looking like he's sliding into 3rd base is some sort of a joke. Sheesh... the hatefulness of some people.

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the first good thing to come of all of this.

 

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9/17/2025 4:24pm
308 wrote:

the first good thing to come of all of this.

 

Perfect, I'm glad they realize he was part of the problem and yanked him.  He's such a kook for making the claims he did, straight up lied to thousands of people and we can't allow that to happen anymore because people are getting killed.

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Dang murky motive... Guess it just came out of left field.  

Dang murky motive... Guess it just came out of left field. 

 

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Jeffro802 wrote:

Is that you on the cover? 

3 Tres wrote:
Sounds like your implying that a drag queen holding an AR-15 and looking like he's sliding into 3rd base is some sort of a joke. Sheesh...

Sounds like your implying that a drag queen holding an AR-15 and looking like he's sliding into 3rd base is some sort of a joke. Sheesh... the hatefulness of some people.

I genuinely thought that could be you on the cover. 

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9/17/2025 4:36pm Edited Date/Time 9/17/2025 4:41pm
early wrote:
Guy was MAGA at one point, when he was younger he wore a trump costume for Halloween. Likely when he got older and realized he was gay...

Guy was MAGA at one point, when he was younger he wore a trump costume for Halloween. 

Likely when he got older and realized he was gay things changed. He only went to college at a conservative school for 1 semester in 2021 so that probably wasn't a huge factor.

I've seen other Mormons that did things to cross their religion and family values lose the support of their families and it can really do a number on their mental state.  The mom saying he got more "political" recently probably means he got more political in the opposite direction of them, probably wouldn't clock it if he went their way 

It's a shame it seems he took it out on Kirk, motive seems murky at best based on the information made public so far.

early, come on...I think you pretty much nailed it with your speculation about how the kid turned from a conservative into an extreme leftist.  I agree...

early, come on...

I think you pretty much nailed it with your speculation about how the kid turned from a conservative into an extreme leftist.  I agree with your guess that when he decided to come out of the closet and be gay he went the other direction and rebelled against his conservative family values.  It's already been confirmed through family and friends that he did exactly that, and Tyler was very open about his hate for Charlie.  With that said, you are better than your last sentence where you act as though the motive is "murky."  There's plenty of evidence combined with Tyler's own confessions that illustrate exactly what the motive was.  He was gay kid with a tranny lover who didn't like Charlie's conservative views on transgender/gay ideology, or his strong faith in Christianity.  He referred to is as "Spreading hate".  And so, Tyler decided to kill Charlie for having different beliefs that he was openly willing to discuss on public/live platform.  The motive is very clear to everyone else, so hopefully you can do your homework and reconsider.

 

I just meant what motive he had to take the action he did against Charlie Kirk. I guess I meant motivation vs motive.

I haven't seen much to say if there was someone else that convinced him to do it or an inciting incident that set him off.

Seems like he wasn't a violent person or a murder aficionado like the kid that did the school shooting the same day in CO.

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9/17/2025 6:08pm
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the first good thing to come of all of this.

 

Perfect, I'm glad they realize he was part of the problem and yanked him.  He's such a kook for making the claims he did, straight up...

Perfect, I'm glad they realize he was part of the problem and yanked him.  He's such a kook for making the claims he did, straight up lied to thousands of people and we can't allow that to happen anymore because people are getting killed.

It would be nice if entertainment/pop culture could swing back to a moderate left leaning message rather then the insane place they are now.

Its nice to see the push back to, what can only be described as arrogance of people like Colbert and Kimmel from the people who scratch out their paychecks.

The pendulum is finally swinging the other way, back toward sanity.

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308 wrote:

the first good thing to come of all of this.

 

Perfect, I'm glad they realize he was part of the problem and yanked him.  He's such a kook for making the claims he did, straight up...

Perfect, I'm glad they realize he was part of the problem and yanked him.  He's such a kook for making the claims he did, straight up lied to thousands of people and we can't allow that to happen anymore because people are getting killed.

It would be nice if entertainment/pop culture could swing back to a moderate left leaning message rather then the insane place they are now.Its nice to...

It would be nice if entertainment/pop culture could swing back to a moderate left leaning message rather then the insane place they are now.

Its nice to see the push back to, what can only be described as arrogance of people like Colbert and Kimmel from the people who scratch out their paychecks.

The pendulum is finally swinging the other way, back toward sanity.

My only wish is that we had a conservative movement that would be content to let the pendulum stop somewhere in the middle instead of one dominated by MAGA who will want it to swing twice as far in the other direction. So instead of a reset towards civility it will just be temporary wins to own the libs and more momentum for the pendulum when it inevitably swings back left. 

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Perfect, I'm glad they realize he was part of the problem and yanked him.  He's such a kook for making the claims he did, straight up...

Perfect, I'm glad they realize he was part of the problem and yanked him.  He's such a kook for making the claims he did, straight up lied to thousands of people and we can't allow that to happen anymore because people are getting killed.

It would be nice if entertainment/pop culture could swing back to a moderate left leaning message rather then the insane place they are now.Its nice to...

It would be nice if entertainment/pop culture could swing back to a moderate left leaning message rather then the insane place they are now.

Its nice to see the push back to, what can only be described as arrogance of people like Colbert and Kimmel from the people who scratch out their paychecks.

The pendulum is finally swinging the other way, back toward sanity.

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My only wish is that we had a conservative movement that would be content to let the pendulum stop somewhere in the middle instead of one...

My only wish is that we had a conservative movement that would be content to let the pendulum stop somewhere in the middle instead of one dominated by MAGA who will want it to swing twice as far in the other direction. So instead of a reset towards civility it will just be temporary wins to own the libs and more momentum for the pendulum when it inevitably swings back left. 

I AGREE 100%

I want arts and entertainment to lean a bit left, be edgy, push boundaries...but be somewhat grounded in traditional values.

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It would be nice if entertainment/pop culture could swing back to a moderate left leaning message rather then the insane place they are now.Its nice to...

It would be nice if entertainment/pop culture could swing back to a moderate left leaning message rather then the insane place they are now.

Its nice to see the push back to, what can only be described as arrogance of people like Colbert and Kimmel from the people who scratch out their paychecks.

The pendulum is finally swinging the other way, back toward sanity.

truck wrote:
My only wish is that we had a conservative movement that would be content to let the pendulum stop somewhere in the middle instead of one...

My only wish is that we had a conservative movement that would be content to let the pendulum stop somewhere in the middle instead of one dominated by MAGA who will want it to swing twice as far in the other direction. So instead of a reset towards civility it will just be temporary wins to own the libs and more momentum for the pendulum when it inevitably swings back left. 

I AGREE 100%

I want arts and entertainment to lean a bit left, be edgy, push boundaries...but be somewhat grounded in traditional values.

I just want my fucking cartoons back. 

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9/18/2025 6:10am
Jeffro802 wrote:
Why exactly did a far right, MAGA supporting gun enthusiast kill Charlie Kirk? Isn’t Charlie Kirk a fellow far right, MAGA supporting gun enthusiast? Everyone said...

Why exactly did a far right, MAGA supporting gun enthusiast kill Charlie Kirk? Isn’t Charlie Kirk a fellow far right, MAGA supporting gun enthusiast? Everyone said it was a democrat that did it at first but that hasn’t that proven to be wrong. I haven’t paid too much attention because most of the conversation around this is very hateful. Can someone explain? 

Congratulations, you are the dumbest person on this site.

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9/18/2025 6:35am
Jeffro802 wrote:
Why exactly did a far right, MAGA supporting gun enthusiast kill Charlie Kirk? Isn’t Charlie Kirk a fellow far right, MAGA supporting gun enthusiast? Everyone said...

Why exactly did a far right, MAGA supporting gun enthusiast kill Charlie Kirk? Isn’t Charlie Kirk a fellow far right, MAGA supporting gun enthusiast? Everyone said it was a democrat that did it at first but that hasn’t that proven to be wrong. I haven’t paid too much attention because most of the conversation around this is very hateful. Can someone explain? 

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Congratulations, you are the dumbest person on this site.

“Prove me wrong”

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9/18/2025 6:42am
Jeffro802 wrote:
Why exactly did a far right, MAGA supporting gun enthusiast kill Charlie Kirk? Isn’t Charlie Kirk a fellow far right, MAGA supporting gun enthusiast? Everyone said...

Why exactly did a far right, MAGA supporting gun enthusiast kill Charlie Kirk? Isn’t Charlie Kirk a fellow far right, MAGA supporting gun enthusiast? Everyone said it was a democrat that did it at first but that hasn’t that proven to be wrong. I haven’t paid too much attention because most of the conversation around this is very hateful. Can someone explain? 

disbanded wrote:

Congratulations, you are the dumbest person on this site.

Jeffro802 wrote:

“Prove me wrong”

No need to, you just proved it yourself.

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Again. This whole damn stinks. This kid did not act alone. 

I hate seeing this be turned into a left right issue. Bigger powers were at play imo. 

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Jeffro802 wrote:
Why exactly did a far right, MAGA supporting gun enthusiast kill Charlie Kirk? Isn’t Charlie Kirk a fellow far right, MAGA supporting gun enthusiast? Everyone said...

Why exactly did a far right, MAGA supporting gun enthusiast kill Charlie Kirk? Isn’t Charlie Kirk a fellow far right, MAGA supporting gun enthusiast? Everyone said it was a democrat that did it at first but that hasn’t that proven to be wrong. I haven’t paid too much attention because most of the conversation around this is very hateful. Can someone explain? 

disbanded wrote:

Congratulations, you are the dumbest person on this site.

Jeffro802 wrote:

“Prove me wrong”

I did. You just refuse to respond to what I said to you because you know you’re wrong. Rather than responding you just ignored me because you have literally nothing to say. 

 

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disbanded wrote:

Congratulations, you are the dumbest person on this site.

Jeffro802 wrote:

“Prove me wrong”

disbanded wrote:

No need to, you just proved it yourself.

I proved him wrong. Rather than acknowledging it, he just ignored it. Which is pretty typical for someone like him 🤣

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Jeffro802 wrote:

“Prove me wrong”

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No need to, you just proved it yourself.

agn5008 wrote:

I proved him wrong. Rather than acknowledging it, he just ignored it. Which is pretty typical for someone like him 🤣

The guy's a pure troll - if everyone ignores him he'll go away. 

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Jeffro802 wrote:

“Prove me wrong”

disbanded wrote:

No need to, you just proved it yourself.

agn5008 wrote:

I proved him wrong. Rather than acknowledging it, he just ignored it. Which is pretty typical for someone like him 🤣

Radical right wing media and fake news are not valid sources. 

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disbanded wrote:

No need to, you just proved it yourself.

agn5008 wrote:

I proved him wrong. Rather than acknowledging it, he just ignored it. Which is pretty typical for someone like him 🤣

Jeffro802 wrote:

Radical right wing media and fake news are not valid sources. 

Well will you idiots figure out it’s not right or left. I’ll give you a hint. Look at who funds both sides. 

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disbanded wrote:

No need to, you just proved it yourself.

agn5008 wrote:

I proved him wrong. Rather than acknowledging it, he just ignored it. Which is pretty typical for someone like him 🤣

Jeffro802 wrote:

Radical right wing media and fake news are not valid sources. 

Is the killers mother a valid source? It’s a very easy question to answer. 

Fyi, I didn’t name any media outlet as a source 😉 nice try though. 

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agn5008 wrote:

I proved him wrong. Rather than acknowledging it, he just ignored it. Which is pretty typical for someone like him 🤣

Jeffro802 wrote:

Radical right wing media and fake news are not valid sources. 

agn5008 wrote:
Is the killers mother a valid source? It’s a very easy question to answer. Fyi, I didn’t name any media outlet as a source 😉 nice try...

Is the killers mother a valid source? It’s a very easy question to answer. 

Fyi, I didn’t name any media outlet as a source 😉 nice try though. 

If someone starts far right, then leans a little to the left, they are still on the right. Common sense isn’t your strong suit, obviously. 

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9/18/2025 2:18pm
Jeffro802 wrote:

Radical right wing media and fake news are not valid sources. 

agn5008 wrote:
Is the killers mother a valid source? It’s a very easy question to answer. Fyi, I didn’t name any media outlet as a source 😉 nice try...

Is the killers mother a valid source? It’s a very easy question to answer. 

Fyi, I didn’t name any media outlet as a source 😉 nice try though. 

Jeffro802 wrote:

If someone starts far right, then leans a little to the left, they are still on the right. Common sense isn’t your strong suit, obviously. 

I’d say blast someone in the neck because you don’t like what they say is a bit more than “leaning a little left”. Nice try though. 

Answer agn question if the mother is a reputable source or just go away. You’re not adding jack shit to the thread. 

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9/18/2025 2:36pm
agn5008 wrote:

I proved him wrong. Rather than acknowledging it, he just ignored it. Which is pretty typical for someone like him 🤣

Jeffro802 wrote:

Radical right wing media and fake news are not valid sources. 

joshd wrote:

Well will you idiots figure out it’s not right or left. I’ll give you a hint. Look at who funds both sides. 

DING! DING! DING! DING! We have a winner here. Somebody is paying attention 

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That text message thread has got to be a joke.  Way too many why would you say that's and too many no one talks like that's...

That text message thread has got to be a joke.  Way too many why would you say that's and too many no one talks like that's for me to belive that.

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That text message thread has got to be a joke.  Way too many why would you say that's and too many no one talks like that's...

That text message thread has got to be a joke.  Way too many why would you say that's and too many no one talks like that's for me to belive that.

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Are you trying to say you don't believe the text string is real and was made up by law enforcement?  Or are you saying you believe it was a fabricated script pre-planned by Tyler and his boyfriend?

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bodycast wrote:
That text message thread has got to be a joke.  Way too many why would you say that's and too many no one talks like that's...

That text message thread has got to be a joke.  Way too many why would you say that's and too many no one talks like that's for me to belive that.

TAUTOG wrote:
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Are you trying to say you don't believe the text string is real and was made up by law enforcement?  Or are you saying you believe...

Are you trying to say you don't believe the text string is real and was made up by law enforcement?  Or are you saying you believe it was a fabricated script pre-planned by Tyler and his boyfriend?

That it was made up by law enforcement

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TAUTOG wrote:
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Are you trying to say you don't believe the text string is real and was made up by law enforcement?  Or are you saying you believe...

Are you trying to say you don't believe the text string is real and was made up by law enforcement?  Or are you saying you believe it was a fabricated script pre-planned by Tyler and his boyfriend?

TAUTOG wrote:

That it was made up by law enforcement

You really believe that?

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Jeffro802 wrote:

Radical right wing media and fake news are not valid sources. 

agn5008 wrote:
Is the killers mother a valid source? It’s a very easy question to answer. Fyi, I didn’t name any media outlet as a source 😉 nice try...

Is the killers mother a valid source? It’s a very easy question to answer. 

Fyi, I didn’t name any media outlet as a source 😉 nice try though. 

Jeffro802 wrote:

If someone starts far right, then leans a little to the left, they are still on the right. Common sense isn’t your strong suit, obviously. 

"leaned a little to the left"  

Haha, imagine a conversation between the shooter and an old buddy:

Shooter: "I've leaned a little to the left recently"

Friend: "What, did you go to a Bernie rally or something?"

Shooter: "No, I started banging a Furry-tranny, and took up Jihad against a Christian political activist."

 

I'd hate to see this mental midgets definition of what going hard to the left looks like.

 

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No need to, you just proved it yourself.

agn5008 wrote:

I proved him wrong. Rather than acknowledging it, he just ignored it. Which is pretty typical for someone like him 🤣

Jeffro802 wrote:

Radical right wing media and fake news are not valid sources. 

What’s your source? Sputnik TV?

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Are you trying to say you don't believe the text string is real and was made up by law enforcement?  Or are you saying you believe...

Are you trying to say you don't believe the text string is real and was made up by law enforcement?  Or are you saying you believe it was a fabricated script pre-planned by Tyler and his boyfriend?

TAUTOG wrote:

That it was made up by law enforcement

You really believe that?

You believe he wrote it? I don't. 

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